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[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

TOPIC: Ashley Judd advisor claims Bill Clinton and others leaned on the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Girl to get out of the race against McConnell.

Much indignation ensues but then there's this:

geek tragedy (23,827 posts)

17. This kind of whining tends to prove the wisdom of forcing her out.

If she's not up to taking on a few meanies inside the Democratic party, she's not up to taking on McConnell and the rightwing noise machine.
 
There's no crying in baseball, and there's no whining in winning politics.

hfojvt (30,938 posts)

18. I don't really see any "force"

but yeah, I was thinking the same thing. If you can't handle them, how can you handle the Republicans?
 
Plus, I am not a huge fan of celebrity candidates, even if the rich and famous are supposedly liberals and have college degrees.

DeschutesRiver (2,200 posts)

20. Agree 100%. If this report is true, then it is good that she dropped out before anyone spent

a dime of their hard earned money donating it to someone this light weight. If all it took is the suggestion of a false rumor to "force" her out, then she was not up to the task at hand.
 
I see a lot of potential candidates who are far less able to actually run for office and be able to do what it takes to hold office than their supporters believe they are. What I read isn't even something remotely troubling, more less a thing that would cause a serious candidate to drop out of a race. Bizarre.
 
Hopefully now someone will surface who is capable of taking this position away from McConnell.

sabrina 1 (32,965 posts)

27. Lol, well, of course you are right. Liberals make bad members of Congress because

they 'whine' too much! Where have I heard that before?

I long for the day when we no longer see right wing framing here on DU directed against Democrats.

geek tragedy (23,827 posts)

28. Whining is whining. If she didn't want the job badly enough

to overcome a few meanies inside the Democratic party, she didn't want the job enough, period.
 
Primaries are tough business. Dilettantes and people with only a passing interest need not apply.

sabrina 1 (32,965 posts)

29. Whining is a right wing word that is part of the propaganda for Liberals prepared

for liberals by Limbaugh and the other Right Wing propagandists' handlers and everyone knows it.
 
She has every right to change her mind and you have no clue why she did so.

But she's a Liberal so the word 'whining' comes immediately to mind, right?

Do you KNOW anything her reasons for not running? Has she spoken about it herself?
 
I've never seen that woman 'whining', quite the opposite considering the background she and her family had. They are vert tough women, who have overcome in credible adversaries to get to where they are today. They are NOT whiners by any means.
 
I think she should run for Congress first and it's possible she got advice to do that.

STOP WHINING!

stevenleser (12,637 posts)

46. That is why I don't believe this story. I think Ashley Judd is stronger than that.

Either way, there are two possibilities:

1. She decided not to run for other reasons

2. The story is true and she shouldn't be a political candidate. Statewide races are rough and the nomination process is about 1/5th as nasty as a general election race against an incumbent Republican would have been.
 
Anyone who is registered as a Democrat can run as a Democrat if they meet the basic eligibility requirements. No one could have forced her not to run.

Whisp (16,680 posts)

23. hey Bill, **** you.

you piece of interfering shit.

time to retire and get out of our faces.

Last week when Clinton said he was pro gay marriage he was "The Big Dog"

Moses2SandyKoufax (930 posts)

50. I agree.

Mr. 43% needs to go away. In '92, he only reached >50% in one state(+D.C)! Amazing how many people believe him to be a political wiz.
 
The guy couldn't even earn the majority of the popular vote running against Bob Dole!

Obvious mole is obvious.

Tippy (4,374 posts)

24. I knew the Clintons wanted Grimes I think they made a big mistake...

dsc (39,022 posts)

39. except according to the article, including what was quoted, that clinton wanted judd

but for some here the evil all powerful clenis is at fault no matter what.

Beacool (18,452 posts)

45. They are as predictable as the RW kooks.

The CDS runs rampant at both ends of the political spectrum.

DonCoquixote (5,274 posts)

34. Where was Hillary?

Nowehere, but we know where her husband was :

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bill-clinton-favors-alison-lundergan-grimes-ashley-judd-senate-race-report-article-1.1293761
 http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/kentucky-senate-2014-alison-lundergan-grimes-ashley-judd-89091.html
 
And some people wonder why the porspect of putting the Clintons back in power gives some of us here on DU a bad case of Deja Vu, not to mention stomach cramps.
 
The clintons are not, nor ever will be, liberal. They may be better than the GOP, but even that gets old after a while.

Beacool (18,452 posts)

44. Well, take some some Tums for those cramps.

The Clintons will remain the most powerful couple in the party, whether some of you like it or not.

DonCoquixote (5,274 posts)

49. Not

Becuase sooner or later, people will realize that for all of the offerings they put at the altar of FDR, they are the reason that this party has become something FDR would be ashamed to be with.
 
And when they bring the party down with them, they can talk about how great they were, as the same GOP they loved to be firends with pave their graves over...sadly, ours as well.

Beacool (18,452 posts)

51. Bring the party down?

If it hadn't been for Clinton, there wouldn't have been a Democrat in office in 1992.

DonCoquixote (5,274 posts)

52. and if it was not for the Clintons moving the party rightward

we would not have the lack of choice we have. Really, you think Hillary would have giverned to the left? The reason Obama and Hillary work so well together is that they are twins, right down the line from Israel, to appeasement of GOP, to the belief that LBJ's social programs needed "reform". They both dislike the left, and think that they if only they sing the right tune, that the people across the aisle can come together as Americans for the commong good..
 
Except they cannot; what we have today is a bunch of neo confederates, who are trying to get their libertarian paradise by whittleing it down, as opposed to outright war like they tried to in 1860.
 
Now, as I said, if she wins the primary, I will indeed push the D button; I am not foolish enough to want to see a repeat of 2000, with a bunch of good ole boy bastards brag about how they got "those stupid liberals" to vote for Nader. But just as the Hillary types made sure to turn things rightward before day one,so will those of us who actually care about the poor and middle class make it clear to Hillary, the trick you pulled in the 90's, the one that Obama imitated,will nto work, we will want to see results, and if you even think of using the word enititlment, we will make sure you regret it.

ProSense (96,157 posts)

35. She should start now

and build an organization to challenge Rand Paul in 2016.

By all means.

Bryan (1,754 posts)

41. If this is true, it's terrific news

Dubiously qualified celebrities swanning into Congressional races in states they don't even live in is not a trend that deserves encouragement.

DonCoquixote (5,274 posts)

53. dubiously qualifed

The woman's work in innternational circles is better than her opponent, whose main qualification was "I have a rich daddy."

So let her her cry rape every 5 minutes on the international scene.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022597225

[Carl]

Whining fits liberals because it is all you do sabrina.

[Skul]

I've heard less whining at a puppy mill.
Sounds like an endless tornado siren over there.

[BlueStateSaint]

H5 for the noun proglodytes.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

H5 for the noun proglodytes.

feel free to use it in a sentence at least once a day.

[Wineslob]

Nice campfire.

Plus, I am not a huge fan of celebrity candidates, even if the rich and famous are supposedly liberals and have college degrees.

Well we know now that's about as useful as a paper hammer in this O nation.

[BadCat]

ms judd looks good naked, which is unusual for a liberal woman.  she probably refused to give bill a blowjob.

[Karin]

sabrina 1 (32,965 posts)

29. Whining is a right wing word that is part of the propaganda blah blah blah blah blah blah

Oh Sabrina, shut up you tiresome windbag. 

The word "whining" brought back a recent memory.  It was right before Hurricane Sandy struck.  Certain cretins at the DUmp were saying, "It's just Staten Island...full of whiny teabaggers." 

So **** you. 

[Splashdown]

SSB, HI-5 for "Proglodytes."

[98ZJUSMC]

Plus, I am not a huge fan of celebrity candidates, even if the rich and famous are supposedly liberals and have college degrees.

Nice campfire.

Well we know now that's about as useful as a paper hammer in this O nation.

Beat me to it.    College degrees mean everything.  I make sure my bartender has at least one.

I long for the day when we no longer see right wing framing here on DU directed against Democrats.

I know that anything to the right of Strelnikov, Mao and Che is pure, evil RiGhtWinGCapItaLism!!!!11111, but try to be more serious in the future.