Nadin Abbott: Wet for War?

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I realize that's a disgusting title, but bear with me...

nadinbrzezinski (117,853 posts)

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North Korea's Full War Declaration

  
(Note to hosts, government statements, even when through Reuters live blog, are not covered by Tittle XVII US code, aka copyright)

Another note, this is far more bluster than usual...no wonder things are as tense as they are.

Full war declaration statement from DPRK (via KCNA):

The moves of the U.S. imperialists to violate the sovereignty of the DPRK and encroach upon its supreme interests have entered an extremely grave phase. Under this situation, the dear respected Marshal Kim Jong Un, brilliant commander of Mt. Paektu, convened an urgent operation meeting on the performance of duty of the Strategic Rocket Force of the Korean People's Army for firepower strike and finally examined and ratified a plan for firepower strike.

The important decision made by him is the declaration of a do-or-die battle to provide an epochal occasion for putting an end to the history of the long-standing showdown with the U.S. and opening a new era. It is also a last warning of justice served to the U.S., south Korean group and other anti-reunification hostile forces. The decision reflects the strong will of the army and people of the DPRK to annihilate the enemies.

Now the heroic service personnel and all other people of the DPRK are full of surging anger at the U.S. imperialists' reckless war provocation moves, and the strong will to turn out as one in the death-defying battle with the enemies and achieve a final victory of the great war for national reunification true to the important decision made by Kim Jong Un.

The Supreme Command of the KPA in its previous statement solemnly declared at home and abroad the will of the army and people of the DPRK to take decisive military counteraction to defend the sovereignty of the country and the dignity of its supreme leadership as regards the war moves of the U.S. and south Korean puppets that have reached the most extreme phase.

Not content with letting B-52 make sorties into the sky over south Korea in succession despite the repeated warnings of the DPRK, the U.S. made B-2A stealth strategic bomber and other ultra-modern strategic strike means fly from the U.S. mainland to south Korea to stage a bombing drill targeting the DPRK. This is an unpardonable and heinous provocation and an open challenge.

By taking advantage of the U.S. reckless campaign for a nuclear war against the DPRK, the south Korean puppets vociferated about "preemptive attack" and "strong counteraction" and even "strike at the commanding forces", openly revealing the attempt to destroy monuments symbolic of the dignity of the DPRK's supreme leadership.

This clearly shows that the U.S. brigandish ambition for aggression and the puppets' attempt to invade the DPRK have gone beyond the limit and their threats have entered the reckless phase of an actual war from the phase of threat and blackmail.

The prevailing grim situation more clearly proves that the Supreme Command of the KPA was just when it made the judgment and decision to decisively settle accounts with the U.S. imperialists and south Korean puppets by dint of the arms of Songun, because time when words could work has passed.

Now they are openly claiming that the B-2A stealth strategic bombers' drill of dropping nuclear bombs was "not to irritate the north" but "the defensive one". The U.S. also says the drill is "to defend the interests of its ally". However, it is nothing but a lame pretext to cover up its aggressive nature, evade the denunciation at home and abroad and escape from the DPRK's retaliatory blows.

The era when the U.S. resorted to the policy of strength by brandishing nuclear weapons has gone.

It is the resolute answer of the DPRK and its steadfast stand to counter the nuclear blackmail of the U.S. imperialists with merciless nuclear attack and their war of aggression with just all-out war.

They should clearly know that in the era of Marshal Kim Jong Un, the greatest-ever commander, all things are different from what they used to be in the past.

The hostile forces will clearly realize the iron will, matchless grit and extraordinary mettle of the brilliant commander of Mt. Paektu that the earth cannot exist without Songun Korea.

Time has come to stage a do-or-die final battle.

The government, political parties and organizations of the DPRK solemnly declare as follows reflecting the final decision made by Kim Jong Un at the operation meeting of the KPA Supreme Command and the unanimous will of all service personnel and people of the DPRK who are waiting for a final order from him.

1.From this moment, the north-south relations will be put at the state of war and all the issues arousing between the north and the south will be dealt with according to the wartime regulations.

The state of neither peace nor war has ended on the Korean Peninsula.

Now that the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK have entered into an actual military action, the inter-Korean relations have naturally entered the state of war. Accordingly, the DPRK will immediately punish any slightest provocation hurting its dignity and sovereignty with resolute and merciless physical actions without any prior notice.

2. If the U.S. and the south Korean puppet group perpetrate a military provocation for igniting a war against the DPRK in any area including the five islands in the West Sea of Korea or in the area along the Military Demarcation Line, it will not be limited to a local war, but develop into an all-out war, a nuclear war.

It is self-evident that any military conflict on the Korean Peninsula is bound to lead to an all-out war, a nuclear war now that even U.S. nuclear strategic bombers in its military bases in the Pacific including Hawaii and Guam and in its mainland are flying into the sky above south Korea to participate in the madcap DPRK-targeted nuclear war moves.

The first strike of the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK will blow up the U.S. bases for aggression in its mainland and in the Pacific operational theatres including Hawaii and Guam and reduce not only its military bases in south Korea but the puppets' ruling institutions including Chongwadae and puppet army's bases to ashes at once, to say nothing of the aggressors and the provokers.

3. The DPRK will never miss the golden chance to win a final victory in a great war for national reunification.

This war will not be a three day-war but it will be a blitz war through which the KPA will occupy all areas of south Korea including Jeju Island at one strike, not giving the U.S. and the puppet warmongers time to come to their senses, and a three-dimensional war to be fought in the air, land and seas and on the front line and in the rear.

This sacred war of justice will be a nation-wide, all-people resistance involving all Koreans in the north and the south and overseas in which the traitors to the nation including heinous confrontation maniacs, warmongers and human scum will be mercilessly swept away.

No force on earth can break the will of the service personnel and people of the DPRK all out in the just great war for national reunification and of all other Koreans and overpower their might.

Holding in high esteem the peerlessly great men of Mt. Paektu, the Korean people will give vent to the pent-up grudge and realize their cherished desire and thus bring a bright day of national reunification and build the best power on this land without fail.

Just reiterating her sureness that it's never been THIS TENSE!!

nadinbrzezinski (117,853 posts)

6. The scenario
 
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Assuming this goes hot, really depends on nukes no nukes.

Nukes get used all kinds of bets are truly off.

As to china, you can bet calls are right now being made to Pyongyang, and not just Beijing. Earlier today the Russian foreign minister made comments about things spinning out of control...after reading that...those rarely strong public comments Mae sense.

Oh and here you go

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21974381

Is there anything that doesn't Mae sense to this woman? I am truly in a state of awepity I pity her sooo much.

kenny blankenship (14,923 posts)

16. If I thought there would be a war I wouldn't joke about it
 
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But if they ever get serious about wanting to end it all, I support their choice to go out with a manifesto like this. Forty diatribe laced pages - complete with shout outs to Charlie Sheen and Lindsay Lohan - should strike the right ending note.

 

nadinbrzezinski (117,853 posts)

10. It is more bluster than usual, agreed
 
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Hey, he even threatened my home town...and I got my doubts. Alaska, on the other hand...it's a large state, and will leave it at that.

Christ...  

[98ZJUSMC]

As soon as I saw this on Drudge, I knew the bald blob would be passing along it's vast strategic conjectures.

If this goes hot.....

Oh noes, FADM Blob, what do we do!!

[JakeStyle]

I love how she assures us later in the thread that she and her husband have thoroughly war-gamed all the possible outcomes, she's the shit.

[98ZJUSMC]

I love how she assures us later in the thread that she and her husband have thoroughly war-gamed all the possible outcomes, she's the shit.

 

She actually mentioned him over the parrot?  Or, it was the parrot who gave her the scenarios to regale the idiots.  gNads - International Blob of Mystery


...and scanners.

[Vagabond]

Quick, somebody ask Nadin what they are going to mount those "nukes" on.  Nothing in their underground tests indicates a nuclear device capable of being mounted on a missile.  Nothing in thier previous ballistic tests or space attempts indicates fine control or re-entry capability necessary to hit something as small as San Francisco other than by purest of chance.  If they actually have a nuclear bomb, their only real option to deliver it is to put it on one of their passenger jets and hope nobody notices it before it completes it's suicide run, which they might succeed in doing exactly once.

I also wonder if Nadin "wargamed" what happens when the North Korean invasion force gets to a grocery store.

[GOBUCKS]

Nothing in their underground tests indicates a nuclear device capable of being mounted on a missile. 

Nothing in their underground tests indicated a nuclear device.

No nuclear "signature" in the seismic data. No trace of nuclear by-products.

Just a big boom. A ship loaded with fertilizer could do as much.

They probably drove a lot of nightcrawlers out of the ground.

And then ate them.

[ChuckJ]

A post title that uses the words "nadin" and "wet for"? That requires some seriously industrial strength mind bleach.

[Skul]

She's still at it.  Different, but, related thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022589064

Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:30 AM
nadinbrzezinski (117,884 posts)

And now China speaks...through Xinxua editorial

Commentary: Cooler minds must prevail on Korean Peninsula

BEIJING, March 30 (Xinhua) -- The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) said Saturday that it has entered a "state of war" with South Korea, marking the latest flare-up of tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

Pyongyang's move came after the United States sent B-52 strategic heavy bombers and B-2 stealth bombers to South Korea to participate in war games.

For years, the DPRK and the United States, deeply suspicious of each other's intentions, have seen their relations plummet to new lows.

Despite the rhetoric, many believe war is still a distant reality on the Korean Peninsula.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/indepth/2013-03/30/c_132273419.htm

In short...cool down, stop US exercises and return to tje three party talks.

If I said I was surprised I would be lying. The last thing China wants is a war on it's doorstep.

Oh and Xinxhua is the media organ of the party. This was not Paul Krugman at the NYT. This is very close to a diplomatic cable. 

Then proceeds to lecture to the point of disagreeing with someone that basically agrees with her. 

You knew this part was coming....

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:40 AM
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3. But is war still "pretty much imminent"?...nt
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Response to SidDithers (Reply #3)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 11:56 AM
Star Member zappaman (7,752 posts)
6. Any second now...
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It's an arc, a trend if you will, that you obviously can't see.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #6)
Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:45 PM
sad-cafe (568 posts)
9. suffice it to say
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we wish we were kidding

[GOBUCKS]

The last thing China wants is a war on it's doorstep.

Here we have a trained historian and journalist who doesn't know the proper use of "it's" and "its".

[franksolich]

Here we have a trained historian and journalist who doesn't know the proper use of "it's" and "its".

Anybody figure out yet what a "tanter tamtrum" is?

[EagleKeeper]

Anybody figure out yet what a "tanter tamtrum" is?

I imagine she could have been tapping it out on some wireless device.

I'm just thankful for the human ability of whole word reading, otherwise nadin would be cut off from the world.

[Vagabond]

Nothing in their underground tests indicated a nuclear device.

No nuclear "signature" in the seismic data. No trace of nuclear by-products.

Just a big boom. A ship loaded with fertilizer could do as much.

They probably drove a lot of nightcrawlers out of the ground.

And then ate them.

There is that problem as well.  There nuke tests look nothing like India's or Pakistan's nuke tests.  They look more like some body cut the priming wire to the wrong length while trying to mask a massive fertilizer bomb.

[I_B_Perky]

Anybody figure out yet what a "tanter tamtrum" is?

I think it's a NK heating device Frank. You take a 'tater, give it a tan, then take a tam, soak it in rum, then put them together. Then set it on fire.


Hey now folks!!! I read it in one of her trained historian history books so ya all didn't have too!!! Took one for the team, so to speak. Ya all should be grateful, ya bastards!!!!

I get no respect around here.   

[Chris_]

She has books?  I have to see that.

[Big Dog]

Anybody figure out yet what a "tanter tamtrum" is?

It's like a "tater tot", only more so.

[I_B_Perky]

She has books?  I have to see that.

Well Chris... all trained historians have books, doncha know?? Get with the program!!!!   

[Chris_]

The last "trained historian" I met was working as the fry cook at the same TGIF's I was back in the 90's.

He was a nice guy, but he was kinda old for the job.

[Revolution]

She has books?  I have to see that.

Yeah, she thought about reading "Green Eggs, and Ham," but the title was too long. Suffice it to say, she's halfway through "Hop on Pop." Give her a break.

[dandi]

A post title that uses the words "nadin" and "wet for"? That requires some seriously industrial strength mind bleach.

Thank you. I'm going to go ahead and beg the OP never to post those words together again. I almost lost my chili dog.

 

[Revolution]

Kinda know what the reaction would be. I just wanted to do it once. 

[Duke Nukum]

Wars are the bread and butter for the trained historian who also happens to be an EMT. And a spunky girl reporter!