Because you knew they just HAD to: gun ownership = racism

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Yet, his seed find no purchase.

baldguy (29,536 posts)

"90% of the guns in America are owned by White people in the suburbs."

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--video--

"What are these White people so afraid of in the suburbs? Do they think little red-headed, freckle-faced Jimmy down the street is going to kill them? Mug them? I don't think so. Are they afraid that the guy next door is going to break in and steal their TV? No, because they know the guy next door makes $50-60 thousand a year.
 
"Poverty & Racism. Most of our shootings are essentially coming from two groups: The poor, the group of poor people which we will not ever change, it seems and who find so much violence in their neighborhood. And then people who are just insane. In history we have always had insane people, as you just said. For the insane people we want to make it as hard as possible for them to get their hands on a gun, and if they get a gun, to fire as few bullets as possible
 
"For the group we never talk about, when we have these big shows after the school shootings. Most of the violence, where the people are dying are African-Americans, Hispanics and poor people. If we ever addressed that problem, if we ever made it so Chicago, East L.A., or Detroit were places that were thriving and where we had jobs, and people were paid a middle-class wage. What's the chance that you, walking home tonight in your middle-class neighborhood and being shot by somebody with a handgun? Very, very small."

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The very laws which allow 90% of the guns to be in the hands of middle-class, suburban White people allows the atrocities of urban violence to occur.
 
And to those suburban White gun owners whose lives are never threatened, but live in deathly fear anyway? The endless deaths of young Black & Hispanic children is a price they're willing to pay for their "freedom".

hack89 (19,934 posts)

1. Moore pulled that number out of his ass

[That's why it's such a big number --Sgt SB]

there is no way to determine who owns what guns.

el_bryanto (3,353 posts)

3. I agree that he most likely did pull that number out of his ass

But surely there are ways to make estimates.

Bryant

hack89 (19,934 posts)

6. He needs to back up his claim.

is that such an unreasonable thing to expect?

baldguy (29,536 posts)

4. Prove it.

Tell me why there's no way to know who owns guns.

premium (193 posts)

7. Because there's no national registry.

I would like to see Moore's proof of what he claims about 90% of gun owners being white, middle class suburban males, until then, I'll take what he says with a huge grain of salt.

pipoman (9,755 posts)

2. Numbers and percetages mean something

if they are factual...if they are made up fabrications they corrupt the cause they are presented to bolster..

socialindependocrat (1,292 posts)

10. Look at all the daily shootings from gangs

Maybe my view is skewed because I live so close to Phila.
but with all the gang shootings I'd say they have a fair number
of guns in their possession.

Maybe they only have data on legally acquired guns...

How come, whenever I see a news report about gangs they
never show a white gang? There must be some white gangs out there...

Romulox (22,515 posts)

11. Absolute made up tripe from Michael. Once again, I invite him to visit DETROIT,

and explain to all the black victims of gun violence how it is really white people who are victimizing their neighborhoods (with LEGAL guns, no less!)
 
Needless to say, "Mr. Michigan" Michael Moore doesn't spend too much time in Detroit.

cali (78,079 posts)

12. like everyone else who's posted in this thread, I'm calling bullshit

Making "facts" up to support your pov or agenda or whatever is despicable no matter who is doing it.

Epic fail for St Michael.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022563342

[Rebel]

baldguy (29,536 posts)

"90% of the guns in America are owned by White people in the suburbs."


The very laws which allow 90% of the guns to be in the hands of middle-class, suburban White people allows the atrocities of urban violence to occur.
 
And to those suburban White gun owners whose lives are never threatened, but live in deathly fear anyway? The endless deaths of young Black & Hispanic children is a price they're willing to pay for their "freedom".

http://theblacksphere.net/ar15-gun-giveaway/

Just shut the hell up, DUmbass.

[Rebel]

BTW, if you don't have Kevin added on FB:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Blacksphere/49867377595?ref=ts&fref=ts

[GOBUCKS]

90% of the guns in America are owned by White people in the suburbs.

That is true.

But 99+% of firearms used illegally are owned by 0bamaites in blue hellhole cities.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Not an isolated incident.

Smells to me like they know they're about to lose the national debate.

On Morning Joe today, the Reverend Al Sharpton agreed with Mike Barnicle  that anti-Semitism explains the opposition to Mike Bloomberg in his gun control campaign. H/t NB reader cobokat.

...

MIKE BARNICLE: Let's get down to it: Mike Bloomberg, Mayor of New York City.  I mean, there's a level of anti-Semitism in this thing, directed toward Bloomberg --

 AL SHARPTON: No doubt about it.

 BARNICLE: I mean, it's out there.

 DAN SENOR: I don't think it's anti-Semitism.  I think it's the perception of big-city urban elites, wealthy elites, telling the rest of the little people how to live their lives.

 SHARPTON: But if he were not a big-city Jewish man, in some parts I think it would be different.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2013/03/25/sharpton-barnicle-agree-anti-semitism-explains-opposition-bloomber#ixzz2OZPuxqj7

[thundley4]

How come, whenever I see a news report about gangs they
never show a white gang? There must be some white gangs out there...

There are "white gangs".  White Hispanic gangs , that is. 

[WinOne4TheGipper]

The same laws that allow Michael Moore to bloviate also allow the KKK's hate speech.  Obviously, Michael Moore's freedom of speech must be restricted.

[JohnnyReb]

From now on every new Obamaphone will come with an assault weapon so the poor will be more equal.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Not an isolated incident.

Smells to me like they know they're about to lose the national debate.
 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2013/03/25/sharpton-barnicle-agree-anti-semitism-explains-opposition-bloomber#ixzz2OZPuxqj7

Aah crap, Rev. Al found me out.  I'd definitely be willing to surrender my rights if only an Anglo-Saxon guy would ask.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Curse those White suburban racist thugs that are killing all the innocent Black law-abiding folk of Chicago!

 

[Karin]

^^^ That Mike Barnicle thing up there is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  Rush talked about this briefly today.  WTF is wrong with those people?

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Curse those White suburban racist thugs that are killing all the innocent Black law-abiding folk of Chicago!

 

You see them, every Saturday night in their pink golf shirts with the collars popped-up, juiced-up on Mochacinno lattes as they climb into thei Volvos blaring N'Sync and head in to town.

It seizes the heart just thinking about it.

WTF is wrong with those people?

Yes.

[GOBUCKS]

You see them, every Saturday night in their pink golf shirts with the collars popped-up, juiced-up on Mochacinno lattes as they climb into thei Volvos blaring N'Sync and head in to town.

You're as good as dead if you walk through a Nike neighborhood while wearing Reebok.

[Rebel]

You're as good as dead if you walk through a Nike neighborhood while wearing Reebok.

http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/qoulyi/chappelle-s-show-the-world-s-greatest-wars

Worth a watch. 

[Carl]

If we ever addressed that problem, if we ever made it so Chicago, East L.A., or Detroit were places that were thriving and where we had jobs, and people were paid a middle-class wage. What's the chance that you, walking home tonight in your middle-class neighborhood and being shot by somebody with a handgun? Very, very small

Wasn`t there some feel good initiative some where to try to get folks to move an existing or open retail stores in inner cities that failed spectaculary as instead of looking for jobs the local hood rats just stole the merchandise?

[BlueStateSaint]

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9rla-l16a4U[/youtube]

This guy is good!

[wasp69]

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

No.

It's because it is a form of power not monoploized by a government sympathetic to the Left's virulent hatreds and phobias.

[AprilRazz]

Not an isolated incident.

Smells to me like they know they're about to lose the national debate.
 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2013/03/25/sharpton-barnicle-agree-anti-semitism-explains-opposition-bloomber#ixzz2OZPuxqj7

[Cough]Freddie's Fashion Mart[cough]

[FiddyBeowulf]

Star Member Puglover (14,545 posts)
135. It is so weird.

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I am at my home in Ecuador and yesterday was out running some errands with my favorite cab driver and Spanish teacher Jorge. The subject turned to guns. After I told him about the gun problems in the US and about Sandy Hook (no he had not heard) he just looked at me and said, "But Jeffrey it's so simple, get rid of the guns. We don't have them here, yes bad people get them but eventually they are put in jail." "Why would people in such a beautiful country like the United States need guns?"

Outside of our nutty country people just don't get it. One of the big reasons I am down here.

hack89 (19,991 posts)
139. Considering Ecuador's gun homicide rate is higher than America's

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and their murder rate is three times that of America's, I am not sure that Ecuador is the best example to hold up if you are advocating gun control.


http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/ecuador

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Star Member Puglover (14,545 posts)
166. LOL I live here Hack.

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You have your cute little blue links and an agenda. The next time someone in Ecuador busts into a classroom and takes out 20 7 year olds you can feel free to PM me and gloat.

Nice try though.

And even though I don't actually read your posts because when I see your name it is a foregone conclusion what they advocate for;

welcome to ignore.

hack89 (19,991 posts)
167. Those "cute blue links" are called facts. nt

Lizzie Poppet (2,011 posts)
174. Facts: perhaps you've heard of them.

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Ecuador rate of gun homicides per 100k (2008): 12.7 (source: UNODC. 2011. Homicide in 207 Countries)
US rate of gun homicides per 100k (2008): 4.01 (same source)

Derp.

Pretty good smack down and the inevitable "welcome to ignore".

[BlueStateSaint]

Is the dog loving beastial primitive a sock of Nads?

[FiddyBeowulf]

Is the dog loving beastial primitive a sock of Nads?

I can read the one's posts without getting a headache the other's not so much.

[Rebel]

"But Jeffrey it's so simple, get rid of the guns. We don't have them here,

yes bad people get them but eventually they are put in jail."

What am I gonna do, just jump up and start grinding my feet on Eddie's couch? Come on, I got a little more sense than that.


Yeah, I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch.

Cocaine's a helluva drug.

[Conservative Libertarian]

There are "white gangs".  White Hispanic gangs , that is. 

They are also Russian gangs.

[Ptarmigan]

baldguy (29,536 posts)

"90% of the guns in America are owned by White people in the suburbs."

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If one can look at the demographics of America, it is White majority, so no surprise that 90% own guns. White comes in all forms from Arabs, Persians, Turkish, and Hispanics.