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From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« on: March 21, 2013, 07:58:32 PM »
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These things will not change. They are solid Roman Catholic doctrinal issues. The new Pope will not alter any of them. I chose the site below, because it is a site from a Roman Catholic Source. It is in the form of a FAQ page:

http://www.stjoseph-marysville.org/faqnonnegotiables.html

For those who don't wish to click through, here are the basics:

Introduction from the page:

Based on Church teachings, the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Encyclicals of the Pope, and issue papers from the Office of the Doctrine of the Faith, the following five issues concern actions that are intrinsically evil and must never be promoted by the law.

Intrinsically evil actions are those that fundamentally conflict with the moral law and can never be performed under any circumstances. It is a serious sin to deliberately endorse or promote any of these actions, and no person who rea1ly wants to advance the common good will support any action contrary to the non-negotiable principles involved in these issues.

1. Abortion - Absolutely not. Period. Not under any circumstances.
1a. Reproductive Technologies - No contraception. No in-vitro fertilization. No sterilization to prevent conception.
2. Euthanasia - Absolutely not. Period.
3. Embryonic Stem Cell Research - Absolutely not, under any circumstances.
4. Human Cloning - Nope. Never.
5. Same Sex Marriage - Emphatically no.

This not what I say. This is what the church says. These things will not change and the RCC considers it a serious sin to endorse or promote any of them, not just to do them. Pope Francis will not change them. No Pope will change them They are at the core of RCC beliefs. Read the page for yourself. I have my own opinions about each issue. I assume that most people do. Mine do not agree with the RCC.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022541819

Looks like the new Pope's Bible didn't come with a bottle of white out and a pen.
Sorry DUmmies given the choice between changing the church to make you happy, and listening to God, God is going to win.

It's a pretty long campfire with a ton of bitching and moaning about those damn fundies.

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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 09:06:58 PM »
Wait. They elected a CATHOLIC pope? AGAIN??????
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 09:10:15 PM »
Quote from: Splashdown on March 21, 2013, 09:06:58 PM
Wait. They elected a CATHOLIC pope? AGAIN??????

Yeah the damn bigots picked yet another Catholic. I was hoping for a transsexual lesbian atheist this time, but NO.

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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 09:18:38 PM »
Finally one of them gets it!......I guess! :whatever:
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2013, 09:27:52 PM »
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5. "If anyone says that the Mass should be celebrated in the vernacular only, let him be Anathema."

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"Non-negotiable" and "forever" are relative.

A lot of Catholics don't agree with the pronouncements coming out of Rome, either, and many choose to ignore them.
No! they are not! Look up the definition of both of those words dipshit! Yes there are Catholics who disagree with some or all of those things.They should be excommunicated but that likely will not happen.They have/are committing mortal sin(separating themselves from God) They are not in communion with their faith and have no business taking communion. Again for all you morons who don't understand the word "eternal".It means unchanging,not negotiable,forever! If you don't want to be Catholic then don't be it really is that simple!
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2013, 09:35:48 PM »
Any religious institution should not have to "negotiate" its believes.
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2013, 12:16:36 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on March 21, 2013, 09:10:15 PM
Yeah the damn bigots picked yet another Catholic. I was hoping for a transsexual lesbian atheist this time, but NO.

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I threw my name into the ring as the first Jewish Pope, but they didn't pick me.  :argh:
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 12:35:14 AM »
Quote from: Mike220 on March 22, 2013, 12:16:36 AM
I threw my name into the ring as the first Jewish Pope, but they didn't pick me.  :argh:
You weren't Buddist enough nor communistic.
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 12:51:20 AM »
Quote from: Splashdown on March 21, 2013, 09:06:58 PM
Wait. They elected a CATHOLIC pope? AGAIN??????
Yes, and the DU liberals who are actively purging Christians out of their membership, and voted God out of their party platform last summer, wanted Pope Francis to endorse everything on their liberal wishlist.  The Pope is a man of God so I will say it for him.  SFTU.
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2013, 04:25:29 AM »
Quote from: Mike220 on March 22, 2013, 12:16:36 AM
I threw my name into the ring as the first Jewish Pope, but they didn't pick me.  :argh:

St. Peter might dispute the 'first Jewish Pope.' :tongue:
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 07:39:30 AM »
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 09:26:45 AM »
Uhhhh, DUmbass, YOU must give up the sin.....................not the other way around.
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2013, 09:43:48 AM »
Well it's pretty clear DUmmies only want a religion they can vote on.  :mental:

Hell they want God to change HIS ways.  :lmao:
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2013, 09:54:11 AM »
Shouldn't the title of the thread read:

From the Horse's Mouth: Ass: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions? :???: :whistling: :tongue:
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2013, 10:04:31 AM »
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24. when I was a kid

and catholic, because my parents were, I took those things pretty seriously to the limit I could understand. For one, it was hammered into my head at church what a bad person I was (a kid!) especially because I was female. Men and boys didn't wear hats in church because they received this ray of something from god and having a hat would interfere as it entered through the top of your head. (lol, yah I know), but women, being women, had to wear hats because they weren't worthy of this super ray of acceptance and blessing from god.

 

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128. I've been a regular

church goer (RCC) for 42 years, and I've never heard of women having to wear hats bc they aren't worthy of this "super ray of acceptance and blessing from god." Ever.

I've never worn a hat to church, either. Or a mantilla. Or any other head covering. Except my veil at my wedding.  

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129. I have no idea if that came from the church teachings

(very likely because of how they view women - the hat thing whether true or not holds to the teachings about women being less than men, except for that miracle woman virgin who got impregnated by God and who had a kid. I knew god had a beard, a white one like Santa, but I didn't know he had a penis!)

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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2013, 11:15:15 AM »
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129. I have no idea if that came from the church teachings

(very likely because of how they view women - the hat thing whether true or not holds to the teachings about women being less than men, except for that miracle woman virgin who got impregnated by God and who had a kid. I knew god had a beard, a white one like Santa, but I didn't know he had a penis!)

Then you don't know God or the church, any church, and never went or paid attention to any of the church's teachings.  All of us, man or woman, stand equal before God, and all of us have committed sins. 

The fact is that people like Whisp loved the sin, especially lust, and hated anyone who told her that it was a sin.
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2013, 11:19:52 AM »
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Wait. They elected a CATHOLIC pope? AGAIN??????
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Re: From the Horse's Mouth: Roman Catholic Non-Negotiable Positions
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2013, 11:26:48 AM »
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129. I have no idea if that came from the church teachings

(very likely because of how they view women - the hat thing whether true or not holds to the teachings about women being less than men, except for that miracle woman virgin who got impregnated by God and who had a kid. I knew god had a beard, a white one like Santa, but I didn't know he had a penis!)


This one was never a Catholic.
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