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primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« on: March 17, 2013, 05:18:24 PM »
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Wisconsin lawmaker seeks to restrict what can be bought with food stamps

http://www.fox11online.com//dpp/news/local/fox_cities/wis-lawmaker-wants-healthier-use-of-food-aid
 
MADISON, Wis. (AP) - A Wisconsin state lawmaker wants food stamp users to eat healthier -- whether they want to or not.
 
Rep. Dean Kaufert, a Republican from Neenah, would cut the use of food stamps on junk food. In other words, for people in FoodShare, the state's nutrition assistance program, it's out with the Cheetos, Coca-Cola and Suzy Qs and in with the leafy produce.
 
"The system is being abused," Kaufert said. "Some people are not spending their benefits wisely."
 
It's an idea that's been tried before with no success. States aren't allowed to set their own definitions of what's "healthy," or "junk," and Kaufert's bill doesn't actually name any products or food groups. The state also can't change what FoodShare covers without a waiver from the federal government.
 
So, how does one define "healthy food," and how will they keep up with all the new food products that get introduced every day?

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dkf (31,528 posts)    Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:51 PM

1. Soda is not healthy. That one is easy.

Go ask Bloomberg for a list.

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HockeyMom (10,410 posts)   Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:53 PM

3. Can you buy infant formula with food stamps?

You could argue that breastfeeding an infant is healthier, and cheaper. Why stop with adult food?

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Lionessa (3,811 posts)   Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:03 PM

4. Idaho's has restrictions.

Can't buy energy drinks, alcoholic drinks, or anything hot like from the deli. I can however buy all the candy and soda pop I want, fortunately I don't want candy or soda pop or e-drinks, or a-drinks. However it does bother me I can't buy a roasted chicken or a any other hot prepared dish at the supermarket. I think that part is entirely unfair since many homeless would need ready food since they likely have no way to cook or heat food.

^^^the once-homeless primitive now a kept woman of a senile old guy she's taking advantage of.

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gollygee (12,051 posts)    Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:17 PM

8. There's something we have to be careful with

I think this is a case of the nanny state, but I can see the value of not allowing food stamps to pay for junk food.
 
However, I saw this documentary on children raised in poverty, and some of the families didn't have full kitchens, and some didn't even have refrigerators. Some lived in old motel rooms with only ice from an ice machine in the lobby, and a microwave.
 
So my point is that not everyone has the ability to cook a meal from scratch, and they're going to have to eat some convenience foods. The definition of "junk food" has to be carefully thought out.
 
I'm editing because my overall feeling is that we should treat adults with dignity and respect, and I don't think going through their shopping lists accomplishes that. Just give them the food stamps and stop whining about what they're buying.

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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 05:31:51 PM »
Well dummie... my opinion is this:

If you depend on taxpayers... like me... for your sustenance then I, thru the government, should be allowed to tell you what you can eat.
Sucks being a welfare slave. You wanna eat junk food? Fine. Get a job and pay for it. There it is in a nutshell.
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 05:35:28 PM »
You take the King's coin, you do the King's bidding.

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However it does bother me I can't buy a roasted chicken or a any other hot prepared dish at the supermarket.

There is a cure for that, get a freaking job and pay for your own groceries.
 
These people get free stuff and they get mad that they have to cook their own damn chicken, it's not like roasting a chicken would take time out of their busy day at work.  :mental:
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 05:42:38 PM »
When I was at the store the other day I saw a variety of dried beans for $1 a pound.  Bananas were 79 cents a pounds, several apple varieties were 89 cents a pound.  Oatmeal was about $3.50 a pound.   Cabbages, potatoes, carrots and other root vegetables are usually fairly cheap.  Basic staples aren't that expensive.  It is possible to eat a healthy diet without breaking the bank.

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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 05:47:25 PM »
That's some expensive oatmeal.

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However it does bother me I can't buy a roasted chicken or a any other hot prepared dish at the supermarket.

How hard is it to roast a chicken at home?  I eat more chicken than anything else.
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 05:49:34 PM »
When I was at the store the other day I saw a variety of dried beans for $1 a pound.  Bananas were 79 cents a pounds, several apple varieties were 89 cents a pound.  Oatmeal was about $3.50 a pound.   Cabbages, potatoes, carrots and other root vegetables are usually fairly cheap.  Basic staples aren't that expensive.  It is possible to eat a healthy diet without breaking the bank.
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 06:30:05 PM »
You take the King's coin, you do the King's bidding.

There is a cure for that, get a freaking job and pay for your own groceries.
 
These people get free stuff and they get mad that they have to cook their own damn chicken, it's not like roasting a chicken would take time out of their busy day at work.  :mental:

But then they would have to get on DU and find out how to cook it.   :rotf: :rotf:
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 06:31:55 PM »
You take the King's coin, you do the King's bidding.

There is a cure for that, get a freaking job and pay for your own groceries.
 
These people get free stuff and they get mad that they have to cook their own damn chicken, it's not like roasting a chicken would take time out of their busy day at work.  :mental:

If the 1st Wookie has her way, you won't be able to buy what you want using your own money.
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 09:16:14 PM »
I'm all for restricting what's purchased with food stamps.

They should all HAVE to take a nutrition class that includes how to shop, compare prices, use coupons and the basics of good nutrition and food prep before they can get their stamps. 

Years ago we had some unexpected bills and the only thing in my budget that had any flexability was food.  I have always cooked from scratch and shoped wisely, but I started cutting out everything that had no food value, like sodas, chips etc. and we survived.   




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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 10:29:48 PM »
Well dummie... my opinion is this:

If you depend on taxpayers... like me... for your sustenance then I, thru the government, should be allowed to tell you what you can eat.
Sucks being a welfare slave. You wanna eat junk food? Fine. Get a job and pay for it. There it is in a nutshell.

H5 x 10. I say this all the time irl. If Nanny Bloomberg and Moochelle were serious about their concern for the "obese" and the "children" then they would be pushing this immediately. But that'd directly affect their base and we can't have that.

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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 10:35:20 PM »
I say make food stamps good for lard, bacon, potatoes, jars of baby food, generic "cheetos", and booze -- and that's it.  Nothing else.

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 10:38:49 PM »
Without bobbolink and hannahbell, these poverty threads sure are dull.

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2013, 10:40:12 PM »
If it were up to me the so called poor people would get there 5 pound blocks of cheese, 10 pound bags of rice and beans. Want to eat meat, get a job.

When I go to the store, the people with the $300 shoes use EBT. I can't get down with that. Call me a racist because none of those are white.
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2013, 10:50:04 PM »
Millions of democrats sell their foodstamps for fifty cents per dollar.

In democrat neighborhoods, liquor stores and convenience stores make more on that than on their legitimate business.

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2013, 04:04:03 AM »
H5 x 10. I say this all the time irl. If Nanny Bloomberg and Moochelle were serious about their concern for the "obese" and the "children" then they would be pushing this immediately. But that'd directly affect their base and we can't have that.

Very true.

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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2013, 06:14:19 AM »
I end up from time to time getting stuck behind certain people at the grocery store. The belt is loaded with processed crap, name brand sodas, junk food and one lone head of iceberg lettuce*. The EBT card gets inevitably pulled out when it is time to pay.


*I have seen this more than once and still wonder why a head of lettuce rather than some other fresh food, but it is always iceberg lettuce. :???:
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2013, 06:43:07 AM »
Well dummie... my opinion is this:

If you depend on taxpayers... like me... for your sustenance then I, thru the government, should be allowed to tell you what you can eat.
Sucks being a welfare slave. You wanna eat junk food? Fine. Get a job and pay for it. There it is in a nutshell.

Absolutely.  Your dime?  Eat whatever your retarded heart desires, cupcake, but not on mine.


*I have seen this more than once and still wonder why a head of lettuce rather than some other fresh food, but it is always iceberg lettuce. :???:

They see it on fast food commercials = Idiocracy.

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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 06:51:12 AM »
Well dummie... my opinion is this:

If you depend on taxpayers... like me... for your sustenance then I, thru the government, should be allowed to tell you what you can eat.
Sucks being a welfare slave. You wanna eat junk food? Fine. Get a job and pay for it. There it is in a nutshell.

Exactly. What is so hard to understand about it?  Welfare is not supposed to be fun.  ::)  I think it should be only staples.  Peanut Butter, bread, cheese, milk.   :-)  But I feed my own family that, how horrible of me to expect people eating for free to eat the same  ::)






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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 07:13:07 AM »
When I was at the store the other day I saw a variety of dried beans for $1 a pound.  Bananas were 79 cents a pounds, several apple varieties were 89 cents a pound.  Oatmeal was about $3.50 a pound.   Cabbages, potatoes, carrots and other root vegetables are usually fairly cheap.  Basic staples aren't that expensive.  It is possible to eat a healthy diet without breaking the bank.

As a diabetic, I agree to a point. Eating healthy for a diabetic is a little different than it is for one that is not. Such things that you listed are good options. I have to watch the carbs from fruits and not over do it--yes, that's right, there is a such thing as eating too much fruit.

Grocery stores in many areas don't carry the selections that you mentioned. Overall, I have found eating healthy from the gocery store is more expensive but it is cheaper than eating out or buying prepared meals.

These people expecting food stamps to buy everything that they want are nothing new. In the mid-80's, when I worked in a gorcery store, food stamp users complained about it all of the time. A woman chewed out the cashier because WIC (Women Infant and Children) vouchers didn't buy all for more expensive items, what her WIC vouchers didn't buy her foodstamps did. When I carried her groceries out, she was driving a brand new van and I was walking to work because I couldn't afford a vehicle.
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Re: primitives discuss restricting food stamps
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 07:49:51 AM »
If it were up to me the so called poor people would get there 5 pound blocks of cheese, 10 pound bags of rice and beans. Want to eat meat, get a job.

When I go to the store, the people with the $300 shoes use EBT. I can't get down with that. Call me a racist because none of those are white.

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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 08:54:20 AM »
That's some expensive oatmeal.

How hard is it to roast a chicken at home?  I eat more chicken than anything else.

Just checked the size of my oatmeal, the $3.50 price is for a canister that is closer to 2.5 pounds. 

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2013, 09:22:33 AM »
Well dummie... my opinion is this:

If you depend on taxpayers... like me... for your sustenance then I, thru the government, should be allowed to tell you what you can eat.
Sucks being a welfare slave. You wanna eat junk food? Fine. Get a job and pay for it. There it is in a nutshell.

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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2013, 09:25:00 AM »
Foodstamp DUmmies should be put on bread and water.....tap, not bottled.....makes water sound kindda James Bondish. :-)
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 09:27:09 AM »
Foodstamp DUmmies should be put on bread and water.....tap, not bottled.....makes water sound kindda James Bondish. :-)
Surely you don't expect those poor people to drink the government certified tap water!
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