DUmmies Discuss Papal Infallibility

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Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:26 AM
Fearless (12,026 posts)

Papal Infallibility
If you believe in papal infallibility does that not mean you are compelled to also accept the Church's views on women's rights, gay rights, birth control, evolution, and so on and so forth?

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Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:25 AM
arely staircase (3,398 posts)

4. they are actually good on evolution, i think
the rest of your list, not so much

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:43 AM
jberryhill (29,157 posts)

8. You are making an analytical error
Does evolution, or science in general, prove or disprove whether deities of any sort exist?
 
My understanding, and I have to say my direct exposure to science is a minor in physics, is that science and religion are pretty much orthogonal.

Orthogonal!! Someone is elbowing nutcase nadin aside, over there at the google!

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:45 AM
cthulu2016 (7,439 posts)

9. Sadly, the pope is not infallible on that one—merely right
The Pope is the ultimate word on matters of faith and morality, but not on matters of practical fact.
 
As with all such things, the infallibility is unfalsifiable—it only applies to things that cannot be proven one way or another.

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:47 AM
Fearless (12,026 posts)

11. Hell, I can also claim to be right
When I can't be proven wrong.

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:50 AM
backscatter712 (18,808 posts)

12. This makes me glad I don't believe in papal infallibility.
Sorry, Catholics, it takes more than a title and a hat to earn my respect.

Response to backscatter712 (Reply #12)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:01 AM
patrice (46,357 posts)

15. Respect? You just demeaned millions of people you have never met. I don't believe I'd
want respect from someone who does that sort of thing.

"a title and a hat" indeed!

Forget the Pope! DUmpette Catherina will decide the binding articles of the Catholic faith:

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:51 AM
Catherina (27,757 posts)

13. Actually no. Papal Infallibility only concerns doctrines he defines "ex cathedra"

Ex Cathedra is when he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.
 
The last pronouncement I know of is the Assumption of the Virgin Mary and that was in 1950. Ex Cathedra is used extremely rarely.
 
The Church's views on women's rights, gay rights, birth control, evolution, and so on and so forth, aren't binding articles of faith.

Response to Fearless (Original post)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:26 PM
treestar (38,675 posts)

19. In theory
But that's not working any more. This is why there is no real need to be so concerned about the Pope's views. Catholics don't listen to him any more either. There's no political power there now, like there was in the medieval period.

Incredible.

Response to Fearless (Original post)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:27 PM
joeybee12 (40,955 posts)

20. Yeah, but only from the 19th century on...also, Mary wasn't a virgin
prior to that time (or maybe earlier).

Response to Fearless (Original post)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:49 PM
Kingofalldems (10,775 posts)

24. The ignorance in this thread is freeper-like

[Karin]

Response to treestar (Reply #34)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:27 PM
 backscatter712 (18,811 posts)
35. Rush Limbaugh's a pretty good analogy for what the Pope does to the world.

Take away the hat, the religious ceremony and the beautiful palace, and you have a hateful ranting gasbag spewing verbal filth to an audience of millions.
 

Keep it up, DUmp.  Did you see what Stinky had to say about Hispanics?

It's strange, Patrice and Catherina are a couple of the most hardcore commies and DUmp-lumps.  They also seem to be the most devout Catholics.   

[Duke Nukum]

We should talk about DUmmie fallibility.

When have they ever been right about anything important?

[franksolich]

backscatter712 (18,808 posts)    Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:50 AM

12. This makes me glad I don't believe in papal infallibility.

Sorry, Catholics, it takes more than a title and a hat to earn my respect.

Yeah, apparently it takes at least half-black skin to be considered infallible, too.

Bah, humbug.

[J P Sousa]

Good one Bucks, I usually get bored with their rants half way through but this gem was hilarious.