http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014412457Oh my.
It's petty dull on Skins's island this morning, but this might, or might not, be of interest.
alp227 (18,967 posts) Fri Mar 1, 2013, 07:57 PM
Governor blocks parole for Manson family member Bruce Davis
Saying he still poses a threat to society, Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday blocked parole for Manson family member Bruce Davis.
“Until Davis can acknowledge and explain why he actively championed the Family’s interests, and shed more light on the nature of his involvement, I am not prepared to release him,†the governor wrote in his decision.
Davis, 26 at the time of the killings, was convicted and imprisoned in 1972 for his role in the murders of two men, ranch hand Donald “Shorty†Shea, who also worked as a Hollywood stuntman, and aspiring musician Gary Hinman.
Details of Shea’s killing have always remained murky, muddied more by Davis’ recent account that the ranch hand was taken to a different location and killed not the night that prosecutors claimed, but the following morning. Another Manson family member, Steve “Clem†Grogan, allegedly cut off Shea’s head. Grogan, the only Manson family member convicted of murder to be set free, won parole in 1985 by leading law enforcement to Shea’s body. California corrections officials said he has since had no criminal offenses in this state.
Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/political/la-me-ff-manson-family-parole-20130301,0,2553587.story
marble falls (1,460 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:29 AM
2. Whether any of the Manson Family should be released or not, no governor will want to be the governor who released any of the Mansons. Frankly I think its time to release the whole lot, Charlie included.
jb5150 (232 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:02 AM
3. Release the whole lot ....?
I have to respectively disagree.
marble falls (1,460 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:44 AM
5. After forty years in prison what possible interest of society is being served by keeping ...
this geriatric group behind bars? Let alone the fact that if you or I were murdered by these people they'd have been out already. What is so inherently valuable about Sharon Tate, Abigail Folger and the rest of the victims that makes the punishment of their murderers tougher than your or my murderer would get? Forty years is more than enough. I respectfully submit.
BuelahWitch (7,429 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:16 AM
4. Oh HELL NO!
They need to rot in prison for what they did. Every last one of them.
^^^one of the primitives prominent in spreading lies, slanders, and falsehoods about the late Tangerine LaBamba primitive, a bosom buddy of the adroit sparkling old dude.
marble falls (1,460 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 09:50 AM
6. "rot in prison", some sort of progressive penal terminology.
alcibiades_mystery (27,530 posts) Sat Mar 2, 2013, 10:08 AM
7. If the same fact pattern related to non-Manson convicts
Bruce Davis would have been paroled in the 1990's, with little fanfare.
Bobby Beausoleil would have been released in the 1990's, with little fanfare.
Leslie Van Houten would have been released in the 2000's.
The rest (specifically, at this point, Watson, Krenwinkle, and Manson himself) would likely never get out, regardless of the celebrity of the case. Other than these three, the others remain in prison for one reason only: the publicity the crimes received.
Not saying that that's right or wrong, but they're certainly not being treated equally under the law. Beausoleil is an especially egregious case, since he was already locked up when the "Manson murders" as they're traditionally conceived (Tate-LaBianca) took place. Find another inmate in the entire California system convicted of a single drug-related murder 44 years ago, at the age of 19 or 20. Essentially, there aren't any. It wasn't a Life without Parole state, even after the commutation. Pretty much everyone convicted of a parallel offense has been released long ago.
By the way, that's been one story the lying tits primitive, the dollar-bill Bill primitive, hasn't told from his storied past yet.
During the late 1960s, the lying tits primitive and the late Chief S itting Bull, the bird-smacking stoned red-faced primitive, hitch-hiked through the Great American Southwest--that's where Chief S itting Bull got the idea he was of Native American derivation, even though he was really 100% New Hampshirean Irish--and stayed at the Manson ranch for a bit.
One wonders why Hollis has been rather slow on getting around to telling this tale.
