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Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« on: February 28, 2013, 06:50:13 PM »
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Bradley Manning: the face of heroism


 
The 25-year-old Army Private, this generation's Daniel Ellsberg, pleads guilty today to some charges and explains his actions

Manning explained that he was leaking because he wanted the world to know what he had learned: "I want people to see the truth … regardless of who they are … because without information, you cannot make informed decisions as a public." When asked by the informant why he did not sell the documents to a foreign government for profit - something he obviously could have done with ease - Manning replied that he wanted the information to be publicly known in order to trigger "worldwide discussion, debates, and reforms". He described how he became deeply disillusioned with the Iraq War he had once thought noble, and this caused him to re-examine all of his prior assumptions about the US government. And he extensively narrated how he had learned of serious abuse and illegality while serving in the war - including detaining Iraqi citizens guilty of nothing other than criticizing the Malaki government - but was ignored when he brought those abuses to his superiors.

Manning is absolutely right when he said today that the documents he leaked "are some of the most significant documents of our time". They revealed a multitude of previously secret crimes and acts of deceit and corruption by the world's most powerful factions. Journalists and even some government officials have repeatedly concluded that any actual national security harm from his leaks is minimal if it exists at all. To this day, the documents Manning just admitted having leaked play a prominent role in the ability of journalists around the world to inform their readers about vital events. The leaks led to all sorts of journalism awards for WikiLeaks. Without question, Manning's leaks produced more significant international news scoops in 2010 than those of every media outlet on the planet combined.

This was all achieved because a then-22-year-old Army Private knowingly risked his liberty in order to inform the world about what he learned. He endured treatment which the top UN torture investigator deemed "cruel and inhuman", and he now faces decades in prison if not life. He knew exactly what he was risking, what he was likely subjecting himself to. But he made the choice to do it anyway because of the good he believed he could achieve, because of the evil that he believed needed urgently to be exposed and combated, and because of his conviction that only leaks enable the public to learn the truth about the bad acts their governments are doing in secret.

Heroism is a slippery and ambiguous concept. But whatever it means, it is embodied by Bradley Manning and the acts which he unflinchingly acknowledged today he chose to undertake. The combination of extreme government secrecy, a supine media (see the prior two columns), and a disgracefully subservient judiciary means that the only way we really learn about what our government does is when the Daniel Ellsbergs - and Bradley Mannings - of the world risk their own personal interest and liberty to alert us. Daniel Ellberg is now widely viewed as heroic and noble, and Bradley Manning (as Ellsberg himself has repeatedly said) merits that praise and gratitude every bit as much.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/28/bradley-manning-heroism-pleads-guilty?CMP=twt_gu

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022442828

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the trial became null and void when they tortured him with solitary

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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 07:13:17 PM »
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3. this is not America's finest hour but its worst

the trial became null and void when they tortured him with solitary

Was he forced to read Democrat Underground and Daily KOS every day?
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 07:18:57 PM »
Bradley Manning: the face of hedonism.

Fixed the title for accuracy.  The little pillow biting bitch didn't get his way about puffing and stuffing so he turned traitor.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 07:29:27 PM »
Trust me, ya little poof turd tapping ****sticks--putting Manning in solitary wasn't to torture him, it was for his PROTECTION.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2013, 07:42:34 PM »
Treason is Treason you little shit.

Hope you think long and hard on that over the next couple of decades in Leavenworth.

I still think you should have been hung.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 08:13:50 PM »
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3. this is not America's finest hour but its worst

the trial became null and void when they tortured him with solitary

Solitary confinement is torture?   :whatever: 

If that's the case, you wet-mouthed pillow-biters might want to rethink that whole "time out" bullshit before some North Korean working the Human Rights desk at the UN frog marches your sorry ass to the Hague.

Say, didn't this little pickle sucker say that his document dump was in response to the Army not recognizing his faggotry or some other such BS?  I don't seem to remember all of these high minded heroics being the original rationale.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 09:29:44 PM »
I hope the chinless 'Bama butterball posts a YouTube clip on this.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 04:16:01 AM »
There's nothing herioc about this traitor. By pleading guilty to only 10 of the 22 charges agaisnt him he's getting off easy.  Once again...taking the cowards way out.

Little mother ****er needs to be tossed UNDER the prison at Leavenworth.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 04:34:47 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 01, 2013, 04:16:01 AM
There's nothing herioc about this traitor. By pleading guilty to only 10 of the 22 charges agaisnt him he's getting off easy.  Once again...taking the cowards way out.

Little mother ****er needs to be tossed UNDER the prison at Leavenworth.

Some lefty lawyer needs to start a crusade to have Breanna moved to the general population at Leavenworth. :evillaugh:

The gurney in Terra Haute is too dignified for this piece of shit.  Maybe the elevator shaft where the last hanging was carried out at Leavenworth can be used? :???:
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 08:23:56 AM »
There will soon be a "Free Bradley Manning" movement asking for donations for his legal fees...........which will actually be beer and travel money for some left wing lawyer out to fleece the flock.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 08:30:25 AM »
Poor bradley.
Soon to be the butt of happiness.  :naughty:
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 08:51:29 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on March 01, 2013, 08:23:56 AM
There will soon be a "Free Bradley Manning" movement asking for donations for his legal fees...........which will actually be beer and travel money for some left wing lawyer out to fleece the flock.

That's been going on for a couple years now.  They think he deserves a damn medal.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 09:39:51 AM »
The guy is a screamin queen, then fine lets cater to his needs.  Up in Huntsville Prison there is a cell block they call Shit-Chute, send him up there, do not assign him a cell, just the cell block and it won't take long and every time he goes to fart instead of squeal he will just make a whooshing sound of fart moving thru a LARGE opening.  After a while the boy will need to wear a butt plug to keep the turds from falling out as he walks around...
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 09:50:09 AM »
Quote from: 17 Oaks on March 01, 2013, 09:39:51 AM
The guy is a screamin queen, then fine lets cater to his needs.  Up in Huntsville Prison there is a cell block they call Shit-Chute, send him up there, do not assign him a cell, just the cell block and it won't take long and every time he goes to fart instead of squeal he will just make a whooshing sound of fart moving thru a LARGE opening.  After a while the boy will need to wear a butt plug to keep the turds from falling out as he walks around...
I don't think I've ever seen a cork large enough to take care of that problem.  :fuelfire:
Might have to stuff a dufflebag up there.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 09:51:25 AM »
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 09:54:21 AM »
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Bradley Manning: the face of heroism


No, he's a F**king traitor.  He just needs to be put on his knees and a bullet put in the back of his brain.     :argh:
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2013, 09:56:10 AM »
Quote from: hillneck on March 01, 2013, 09:54:21 AM

No, he's a F**king traitor.  He just needs to be put on his knees and a bullet put in the back of his brain.     :argh:

Misuse of a bullet.  Hanging is better.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2013, 09:58:58 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on March 01, 2013, 09:56:10 AM
Misuse of a bullet.  Hanging is better.
Waste of rope.
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2013, 11:02:21 AM »
Quote from: Skul on March 01, 2013, 09:58:58 AM
Waste of rope.

The rope can be reused.  Recycling and all. :whistling:
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Re: Bradley Manning: the face of heroism
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2013, 11:29:39 AM »
Nah, just let him loose in Leavenworth and tell Bubba how much he likes it in the ass.

At least Manning will have made someone happy while he gets gutted like a trout.
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