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pillage the country and working class. Then when you get home you can have a job at Walmart that does not even pay enough to feed yourself much less a family. A company who will persecute you for demanding work rights you fought for. And even worse have you arrested and charged with a felony for eating an effing cookie.

Things are terribly out of place in this country.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:35 AM

Star Member Arctic Dave (11,653 posts)
2. You may not have joined to protect billionaires assets

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but that is what you were doing knowingly or not.

Let me guess, you thought you were fighting the red dread. God, country and the sweet kiss of MJRC.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:25 AM

Star Member cherokeeprogressive (14,365 posts)
7. Guess again, Hoss...

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I was working at the GM plant in South Gate, CA. I was painting Cadillac Cimarrons and Chevy Cavaliers. 56 every hour. I was making more than my Dad (who was managing an industrial laundry business that serviced gas stations, hotels, and hospitals in Los Angeles). One Friday afternoon I showed up to work the Swing Shift and saw, much to my dismay, a hand printed sign above the door that said "LAST SHIFT".

I turned around and went back to the parking lot where I got in my car and started to my apartment in Whittier. I never even bothered to clock in that day. I was 20 at the time. On the way home I drove past a Navy Recruiting office. My Grandfather sailed with Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet, and my Father sailed during the Korean War. I had various other Uncles who served in the Navy as well. I grew up hearing amazing stories about places like Perth, Manila, Portsmouth, San Juan, Nassau, Naples, Sigonella, Palma, Athens, Nice, Caracas, and other places. I thought "what the ****, I'm not going to find another job like this any time soon..." so I stopped in, and joined the Navy. I cut a 94 on the ASVAB two weeks later.

It was a ****ing awesome ride, which ended after 10 years when I injured myself mounting a tire on an A-6E and had to have an ACL reconstructed, which was an absolutely new surgery at the time.

I didn't join the Navy for YOU, MILLIONAIRES, BILLIONAIRES, or ANY other reason other than going to some of the places I'd heard about as a kid. FOR FREE. And you know what? I not only did that, I got to live experiences very few people could ever know. I'd compare some of the things I did with kids doing backflips on motorcycles in the X Games. I worked on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, in the daylight, at night, in driving rain, in 40 foot seas with GREEN WATER breaking over the bow. I helped fight a couple of fires. In 1988 I sailed on the USS Constellation out of San Diego which caught on fire BEFORE we even passed under the Coronado Bridge.

Yeah... I don't remember fighting any dreaded Reds... I do remember though seeing Russian Bear Bombers in the air and throwing apples at Russian trawlers disguised as fishing boats from the catwalks of the USS America.

It was a ****ing blast. Snorting coke on the sidewalk in Caracas with wild parrots in the trees over our table was my Number 1 experience. Or wait... maybe it was meeting the Chief Bo'sun's Mate in Palma who went AWOL in the 70's and now owned the bar and gave me a Marlboro cigarette pack filled with hash. Nope... now that I think about it; it was snorkeling off the coast of Mombasa in the glass bottom boat with the German girls and more weed than I'd ever smoked in my life...

Yeah... Guess again.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:59 AM

HiPointDem (12,483 posts)
45. your best experiences in the military were doing drugs? well, that inspires confidence.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:21 PM

Tom Ripley (2,479 posts)
36. That's why I always discourage anyone from joining the military...I come from a long line...

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of non-soldiers.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:24 PM

raouldukelives (2,194 posts)
17. Because it's a good job with perks.

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Once you can swallow killing or assisting in the killing of indigenous people to foster more sympathetic corporate oversight of their lands, everything else is gravy.

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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:48 PM

nadinbrzezinski (116,629 posts)
50. BULLHUEY

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In the field troops fight for each other and to come home.

Mom, apple pie, the American way or a pay check mean jack shit if you are dead.

There is a reason why Skinner is paid $$$ to contain these psychotics to the island. 

[Chris_]

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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:59 AM
HiPointDem (12,483 posts)

45. your best experiences in the military were doing drugs? well, that inspires confidence

Nobody tell Taverner...

[txradioguy]

What these idiots and reprobates fail to realize is there are people service in the military today who not only protect the rich...they protect assclowns like TheMasterbater and Mr. "I come from a long line of non-soldiers" and allow them to continue to be able to say the stupid crap they spew without fear of being drug off and shot in the middle of the night.

I REALLY get tired of these idiots trying to gain street cred or ^ 5's at mine and others expense.

[FlippyDoo]

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Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:25 AM

Star Member cherokeeprogressive (14,365 posts)
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I was working at the GM plant in South Gate, CA. I was painting Cadillac Cimarrons and Chevy Cavaliers. 56 every hour. I was making more than my Dad (who was managing an industrial laundry business that serviced gas stations, hotels, and hospitals in Los Angeles). One Friday afternoon I showed up to work the Swing Shift and saw, much to my dismay, a hand printed sign above the door that said "LAST SHIFT".

I turned around and went back to the parking lot where I got in my car and started to my apartment in Whittier. I never even bothered to clock in that day. I was 20 at the time. On the way home I drove past a Navy Recruiting office. My Grandfather sailed with Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet, and my Father sailed during the Korean War. I had various other Uncles who served in the Navy as well. I grew up hearing amazing stories about places like Perth, Manila, Portsmouth, San Juan, Nassau, Naples, Sigonella, Palma, Athens, Nice, Caracas, and other places. I thought "what the ****, I'm not going to find another job like this any time soon..." so I stopped in, and joined the Navy. I cut a 94 on the ASVAB two weeks later.

It was a ****ing awesome ride, which ended after 10 years when I injured myself mounting a tire on an A-6E and had to have an ACL reconstructed, which was an absolutely new surgery at the time.

I didn't join the Navy for YOU, MILLIONAIRES, BILLIONAIRES, or ANY other reason other than going to some of the places I'd heard about as a kid. FOR FREE. And you know what? I not only did that, I got to live experiences very few people could ever know. I'd compare some of the things I did with kids doing backflips on motorcycles in the X Games. I worked on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, in the daylight, at night, in driving rain, in 40 foot seas with GREEN WATER breaking over the bow. I helped fight a couple of fires. In 1988 I sailed on the USS Constellation out of San Diego which caught on fire BEFORE we even passed under the Coronado Bridge.

Yeah... I don't remember fighting any dreaded Reds... I do remember though seeing Russian Bear Bombers in the air and throwing apples at Russian trawlers disguised as fishing boats from the catwalks of the USS America.

It was a ****ing blast. Snorting coke on the sidewalk in Caracas with wild parrots in the trees over our table was my Number 1 experience. Or wait... maybe it was meeting the Chief Bo'sun's Mate in Palma who went AWOL in the 70's and now owned the bar and gave me a Marlboro cigarette pack filled with hash. Nope... now that I think about it; it was snorkeling off the coast of Mombasa in the glass bottom boat with the German girls and more weed than I'd ever smoked in my life...

Yeah... Guess again.

And the counterfitdollarbill aka lying mammary gland is think to himself, "Damn! I should have pretended I did a lot of drugs while I was on that SEAL team that didn't exist at the time!"

[NHSparky]

First off, I'd like to take these ****ers heads and bounce them off the concrete like so many basketballs.

Second, little memo to cherokeeprogressive--YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.  Yeah, you might have joined, but no ****ing way in hell you ever cut a 94 without someone shoving AEF or Nuclear Power under your nose.  Apologies to Thor, but for the most part (MOST, NOT ALL) airedales are dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

Next, I was in during the early 1980's, and there was coming into being this little thing called URINALYSIS.  You know, piss tests--those things you'll never be able to pass.  Don't bullshit me into the whole, you could "cheat" the test, etc.  And if doing drugs was the highlight of your military experience, there's a word my shipmates and I would have used to describe you:

SHITBAG.  IOW, you've always BEEN one, you'll always BE one.  My Navy is better off without your type in it.

As for the rest of those ****ers, they don't have the quals to hold the jock of an 19-year old Seaman Apprentice, and best part of all of it, they ****ing know it.

[txradioguy]

First off, I'd like to take these ****ers heads and bounce them off the concrete like so many basketballs.

Second, little memo to cherokeeprogressive--YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.  Yeah, you might have joined, but no ****ing way in hell you ever cut a 94 without someone shoving AEF or Nuclear Power under your nose.  Apologies to Thor, but for the most part (MOST, NOT ALL) airedales are dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

Next, I was in during the early 1980's, and there was coming into being this little thing called URINALYSIS.  You know, piss tests--those things you'll never be able to pass.  Don't bullshit me into the whole, you could "cheat" the test, etc.  And if doing drugs was the highlight of your military experience, there's a word my shipmates and I would have used to describe you:

SHITBAG.  IOW, you've always BEEN one, you'll always BE one.  My Navy is better off without your type in it.

As for the rest of those ****ers, they don't have the quals to hold the jock of an 19-year old Seaman Apprentice, and best part of all of it, they ****ing know it.

[DumbAss Tanker]

What these idiots and reprobates fail to realize is there are people service in the military today who not only protect the rich...they protect assclowns like TheMasterbater and Mr. "I come from a long line of non-soldiers" and allow them to continue to be able to say the stupid crap they spew without fear of being drug off and shot in the middle of the night.

I REALLY get tired of these idiots trying to gain street cred or ^ 5's at mine and others expense.

Speaking strictly for myself, the assclowns were just the incidental beneficiaries of my desire for adventure.  Seriously, where else was I going to get my hands on a tank and live main gun ammo?

 

[Tucker]

First off, I'd like to take these ****ers heads and bounce them off the concrete like so many basketballs.

Second, little memo to cherokeeprogressive--YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.  Yeah, you might have joined, but no ****ing way in hell you ever cut a 94 without someone shoving AEF or Nuclear Power under your nose.  Apologies to Thor, but for the most part (MOST, NOT ALL) airedales are dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

Next, I was in during the early 1980's, and there was coming into being this little thing called URINALYSIS.  You know, piss tests--those things you'll never be able to pass.  Don't bullshit me into the whole, you could "cheat" the test, etc.  And if doing drugs was the highlight of your military experience, there's a word my shipmates and I would have used to describe you:

SHITBAG.  IOW, you've always BEEN one, you'll always BE one.  My Navy is better off without your type in it.

As for the rest of those ****ers, they don't have the quals to hold the jock of an 19-year old Seaman Apprentice, and best part of all of it, they ****ing know it.

As long as the rest of their body is attached. We don't need any headless zombies.

[NHSparky]

As long as the rest of their body is attached. We don't need any headless zombies.

Not that anyone would ever notice--they're zombies, and God knows they've never used their brains.

[BlueStateSaint]

First off, I'd like to take these ****ers heads and bounce them off the concrete like so many basketballs.

Second, little memo to cherokeeprogressive--YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.  Yeah, you might have joined, but no ****ing way in hell you ever cut a 94 without someone shoving AEF or Nuclear Power under your nose.  Apologies to Thor, but for the most part (MOST, NOT ALL) airedales are dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

Next, I was in during the early 1980's, and there was coming into being this little thing called URINALYSIS.  You know, piss tests--those things you'll never be able to pass.  Don't bullshit me into the whole, you could "cheat" the test, etc.  And if doing drugs was the highlight of your military experience, there's a word my shipmates and I would have used to describe you:

SHITBAG.  IOW, you've always BEEN one, you'll always BE one.  My Navy is better off without your type in it.

As for the rest of those ****ers, they don't have the quals to hold the jock of an 19-year old Seaman Apprentice, and best part of all of it, they ****ing know it.

When I was at Bliss, I had two guys in my section come up hot on the same test.  One guy was for pot.  He lost a rank (E-4 to E-3) and he turned his life around (at least in the little time I had left).  The other guy had been my driver, at one point, and he dipped the piss bottle into the urinal to attempt to beat it.  The drug control NCO was his cocaine contact!  Well, the second guy lost a stripe, too, and I'm not too sure that he turned things around (he had a young wife, too).  The drug control NCO was also busted in possession of a small amount of pot, and wound up "getting a PCS" to Leavenworth--for 10 years.  Good thing, too.  We didn't need his influence in the cav squadron.

ETA:  I left out the fact that I H5ed you for the post, Sparky.

[AprilRazz]

First off, I'd like to take these ****ers heads and bounce them off the concrete like so many basketballs.

Second, little memo to cherokeeprogressive--YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.  Yeah, you might have joined, but no ****ing way in hell you ever cut a 94 without someone shoving AEF or Nuclear Power under your nose.  Apologies to Thor, but for the most part (MOST, NOT ALL) airedales are dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

Next, I was in during the early 1980's, and there was coming into being this little thing called URINALYSIS.  You know, piss tests--those things you'll never be able to pass.  Don't bullshit me into the whole, you could "cheat" the test, etc.  And if doing drugs was the highlight of your military experience, there's a word my shipmates and I would have used to describe you:

SHITBAG.  IOW, you've always BEEN one, you'll always BE one.  My Navy is better off without your type in it.

As for the rest of those ****ers, they don't have the quals to hold the jock of an 19-year old Seaman Apprentice, and best part of all of it, they ****ing know it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
H5

[NHSparky]

Oh, and another memo to the cherokee stoner ****tard:

Connie was in fact in San Diego in 1988.  And they did in fact have a fire OFF THE COAST of SD in 1988.

But one little thing you said stuck into my mind--the fact that you claimed the carrier sailed UNDER THE CORONADO BRIDGE.

As a former SD guy, might I take this opportunity to call BULLSHIT?  If in fact you were ever in, if in fact you were ever in San Diego, you'd know why.  While a number of the ships which were at 32nd Street did in fact pass under the bridge, carriers did not.

Why is that, DUmmies?  Do you remember, or were you too ****ing stoned to know THAT THE ****ING CARRIERS WERE BERTHED AT NORTH ISLAND, you lying sack of shit.  They NEVER went under the Coronado Bridge.

[NHSparky]

Couldn't have said it better myself.
H5

It's amazing the number of people who thought they could beat the whiz quiz, doc.  And thanks--right back atcha.

Again, one other thing that has me curious--how is it a GM factory, especially one as large as the one in South Gate used to be (my aunt lived in South Gate) would just "shut down" with no notice or advance warning aside from a handwritten sign above the gate?

Seriously?  NO company that large, or anywhere near that large, just shuts down without any sort of warning.

I dunno, the timeline is so far off as well.  Grandpa was with the Great White Fleet?  That was 1907-09.  Dad was in Korea?  I mean, both those guys would have had their progeny well into their 50's at least.  Interesting.

But as coach says, "DUmmies lie.  All the time, DUmmies lie."

[JohnnyReb]

I am to old, to feeble and to sickly to be in the military now...BUT....if they start letting the military kill the enemies of this country, both foreign and domestic, count me in again. May not be killing the domestic enemies that Obama and the DUmmies want killed but I assure you, they will be the enemies of MY country.

[98ZJUSMC]

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:10 AM

TheMastersNemesis (2,107 posts)

 And even worse have you arrested and charged with a felony for eating an effing cookie.

Huh?

Things are terribly out of place in this country.

I know.  When are you leaving? 

[J P Sousa]

I am to old, to feeble and to sickly to be in the military now...BUT....if they start letting the military kill the enemies of this country, both foreign and domestic, count me in again. May not be killing the domestic enemies that Obama and the DUmmies want killed but I assure you, they will be the enemies of MY country.

HI-5
.

[Vagabond]

I joined the Army after heving trouble in college and seeing that the only decent career option I had in Pensacola was a corrections officer.  I just couldn't see giving myself a life sentence at that age.  I've always said going back there to do that would be a dark day for me.

Anyway, my grandpa was a Korean War vet, my Dad was in during the Vietnam era, and an uncle served in Berlin.  I heard all the good stories and none of the ones where they were huddled off by themselves at family gatherings.  I did four years of ROTC in high school, and I really looked up, still do, to the retired First Sergeant that was my teacher.  I decided the Army looked like a better option, and at least I got to shoose what career I would train for.

The Army is a cross section of American society.  The rich, the poor, the religous, the atheist, the paragons of virtue, and those who viewed law as extremely flexible.  There are as many reasons for joining as there are soldiers and veterans.  I enjoyed the ride.  Those last two years at an Earth station weren't quite what I thought they would be, then I injured my leg.  Otherwise I might still be in. 

Did we have shitbags for soldiers?  Absolutely.  In AIT there was a bunch that called themselves the "Apple Dumpling Gang".  The last two bragged that they had caused a permanant party soldier to be sent to the thirteenth floor (mental ward).  Then they broke into his room and locker took his car keys and stole his car.  About three weeks later, they were caught in Vegas in the car with two underage girls and enough pot to trigger a trafficking charge.  It didn't end well for them.

[BEG]

What insufferable bores these people are.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Their mindless and selfish inability to comprehend what makes people tick, and why exactly someone would risk their lives and precious body parts for others, explains such a very great deal about why most of them are miserable failures.

[Skul]

All this time, and I thought it was about giving them the right to post crap like that.
It's a shame they abuse that right. Still theirs, will still defend it.

[DLR Pyro]

If your best recollection of your time in the Military is this:

It was a ****ing blast. Snorting coke on the sidewalk in Caracas with wild parrots in the trees over our table was my Number 1 experience. Or wait... maybe it was meeting the Chief Bo'sun's Mate in Palma who went AWOL in the 70's and now owned the bar and gave me a Marlboro cigarette pack filled with hash. Nope... now that I think about it; it was snorkeling off the coast of Mombasa in the glass bottom boat with the German girls and more weed than I'd ever smoked in my life...

Then there is no doubt in my mind that your career ending injury was the result of your drug addled brain not following the proper procedures to change a tire on an aircraft...

It was a ****ing awesome ride, which ended after 10 years when I injured myself mounting a tire on an A-6E and had to have an ACL reconstructed, which was an absolutely new surgery at the time.

****ing druggie DUmmy.

[Skul]

Response to raouldukelives (Reply #17)
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:48 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,630 posts)
50. BULLHUEY Never heard of him.
In the field troops fight for each other and to come home. You don't know. You've never been there.
Mom, apple pie, the American way or a pay check mean jack shit if you are dead.  <==non US born, non US raised, non US educated, telling us how it is.

Your concern is duly noted, gNads.
Now, FOAD, and your little dog, too.

[Delmar]

Your concern is duly noted, gNads.
Now, FOAD, and your little dog, too.

Don't forget the conures.

[RayRaytheSBS]

First off, I'd like to take these ****ers heads and bounce them off the concrete like so many basketballs.

Second, little memo to cherokeeprogressive--YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT.  Yeah, you might have joined, but no ****ing way in hell you ever cut a 94 without someone shoving AEF or Nuclear Power under your nose.  Apologies to Thor, but for the most part (MOST, NOT ALL) airedales are dumber than a bag of ****ing hammers.

Next, I was in during the early 1980's, and there was coming into being this little thing called URINALYSIS.  You know, piss tests--those things you'll never be able to pass.  Don't bullshit me into the whole, you could "cheat" the test, etc.  And if doing drugs was the highlight of your military experience, there's a word my shipmates and I would have used to describe you:

SHITBAG.  IOW, you've always BEEN one, you'll always BE one.  My Navy is better off without your type in it.

As for the rest of those ****ers, they don't have the quals to hold the jock of an 19-year old Seaman Apprentice, and best part of all of it, they ****ing know it.

I agree Sparky, I doubt seriously that he got a 94 AFQT. Now a 94 GT score, THAT I can believe. This oxygen thief sounds like he was out after an initial enlistment, if THAT. F@#KING worthless...

As for the rest, to paraphrase a saying; 'people sleep easily in bed at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf'. SOMEONE has to do it to keep our nation safe. And obviously you all are not man/woman/whatever alphabet soup you're being called this week enough to so it. So kindly F@#K OFF and keep your mouth shut about what you know NOTHING about.

[Skul]

Don't forget the conures.

I left the parrots for you, old boy.