More dorner insanity with some gNads goodness (she has boils)

[Skul]

This just puzzles the dickens out of me.
I can't believe this AH actually typed this drivel.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022346579

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:49 PM
 libertypirate (2,672 posts)

You are not required to support Dorner, How decent of you. 
but you should try and understand him. Banning me would be appropriate for what I'd say to that DUmbass. He is not that different from any other human that becomes obsessed with their own failings and can't find away to rise above their pain. Dorner knows what he is doing is wrong, but he has lost the ability to care. Cry me a river you filthy enabler.

The most unfortunate reality is that he is most likely correct, that without events to shed a light on the insular behavior of police services, nothing can ever change. Institutions don't suddenly decide they have too much power and step back.

Suddenly the LAPD is faced with a demon of their own making. They held him up to a standard he would not accept then excluded him and stripped him of his identity. This is a bad deal for all involved but it is nothing more the inevitable consequences of systematic abuse. It no longer matters if he is right or wrong, he has already forced the LAPD to change.

The police are now trying to bribe the public. oh really? First they want to pretend they are going to be fair to him (reopen investigation), and they want the public's help to find him. This tactic could very well backfire on the LAPD they have been abusing the public's trust out of sight for far too long.

The public seems to realize that the greatest danger isn't the suspect, but the institution who is acting desperately to stop him. No they don't, you DUmbass.

I have a better idea. Find him, kill him.
Now, how about those comments?

Response to libertypirate (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:52 PM
 PDJane (8,363 posts)
1. Well said; I agree. Another idiot.

Response to libertypirate (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:54 PM
theKed (833 posts)
2. They want the public to help find him?

If I were in LA I wouldn't come within 5 blocks of any LAPD trying to "find" him, knowingly, considering the photos of that truck that looked nothing like his but they still thought was his. I'd be terrified of getting shot while helping. You poor baby.

Response to libertypirate (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:57 PM
 Duer 157099 (15,729 posts)
4. It's a good thing Dorner isn't a math teacher

Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:58 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Otherwise, everyone that ever learned "2+2=4" from him would have to disregard what he taught them. Correct, it equals, potatoes.

I cannot understand people who are completely uninterested in the motives of someone like Dorner, because of what he's done. It *does* matter why he is doing what he's doing. My interest in understanding it is in NO WAY demonstrating sympathy or condoning his actions, and it is infuriating when people conflate the two. (Secret dorner cheerleader)

Response to B2G (Reply #5)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:01 PM
 Duer 157099 (15,729 posts)
6. I am very interested in Lanza's motives. Another secret cheerleader.

Maybe I'm just weird and quirky that way. Yes, we noticed.

I'll give the majority of the DUmmies credit for opposing the OP's crap.
A knee slapper follows.....

Response to Trajan (Reply #9)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:35 PM
 steve2470 (13,780 posts)
14. I agree with you

I think 99.99999999999999999999% of DU does also (always one, hence the lack of 100% ) Y'all might want to do some number evision there, sparky.

Our current 2013 DOTY leader chimes in.

10. Fact-he killed multiple people. that supercedes any other consideration as of now.

Then he is nothing more than a vigilante and an anarchist.

Note-And I am not a fan of bad cops. And I come from NYC where there is like in Los Angeles, a history of bad cops
(why the good cops don't drive the bad ones out, I don't know).

But, can anyone here say they know the entire story of this case, except for what has been released?

There are like four different issues involved

One can be one who backs someone over three of the issues, however a private person killing multiple people is not one of the things I back.
That puts him in the same league as Zimmerman.

And yes Mr. Dorner is black. But that does not give one permission to overlook the murders.

That said, if I was on a jury, would I convict him of first degree murder?
NO (based on what is known), I would say he is most certainly NOT guilty by reason of insanity.

I am very sad he didn't get the help he needed for his demons.

It's like Tim McVeigh thought he had reasons to. NO he didn't.
NO the ones who did 9-11 didn't have the right to do what they did, even if they had a political reason.

NO the Son of Sam no matter what the voices in his head said, did not have the right to terrorize NYC for a year.

I really think this V for Vengence thing is getting out of hand.

Anarchy is NEVER the right thing to do.

IMHO.

(and if it weren't political, we would not be discussing it here.)

BTW, if he didn't have access to guns and bullets, he would not be so deadly, would he?
Are the guns legal? illegal? Does it make a difference? NO.
Another reason to ban all guns from the street of all types.
Once he was no longer a cop, he should no longer have been allowed any acess to one with the problems he has.



and are his backers saying that the LAPD should back off, let him finish off his list, and call it even?
I would hope not.
Life isn't a movie.
Movies have happy endings.
This one didn't.
imho. It stinks, just like all the rest.
btw3-Police head William Bratton is the link between NYC and Los Angeles police abuse.
It was on his watch in NYC and on his watch when the problem in Los Angeles occurred.
It has to be the training and what the goal is of Mr. Bratton.
He was quite controversial in NYC. And it was the black/white divide like most other things as to his popularity.

A certain "runner-up", goes for the brass ring.

Response to FSogol (Reply #12)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:06 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,047 posts)
18. So far two vehicles that DO NOT match the wanted vehicle

We're shot, one by LAPD, the second by Torrance PD.

This might lead to the belief that the cops are behaving in a heavy handed way. I got a question, don' feel insulted, you live on the right side of the tracks? For the record, I do, but ten years of EMS and now a year and a half of news coverage lets me understand these sentiments about LAPD in particular are not without foundation.

It might be shocking to you, but LAPD has been considered out of control for a few decades now. Scandals such as Rampart, were serious, as in seriously wrong.

It is not hatred of the cops to point out that LAPD as a few issues. For that matter, LAPD is not the only police agency with issues, especially if you live on the wrong side of the tracks...or have the necessary understanding of why people feel this way. It is not baseless. 

gNads, gitcha some!!!1!11!
It gets better.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #18)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:12 PM
 FSogol (15,137 posts)
21. Even from the East Coast, I understand that the LAPD is little better than a crimminal gang.

However, that doesn't make Dorner's actions correct, admirable, or justified. The OP isn't about hating the LAPD, it is essentially saying, look at Dorner's side. Regarding the quote of "He is not that different from any other human that becomes obsessed," I call bullshit. Dorner is different because he killed 3 innocent people.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:15 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,047 posts)
23. Look into slave revolts.

The psychology, IMO, is similar. And like most in US history, It will fail.

The sentiment is coming from what I described. This kettle is boiling, and I fear it might boil over.

For the record, it does, I am staying out of there. Wrong skin tone.  Oh fer Pete's sake.

That exchange was followed by these two comments.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #23)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (6,086 posts)
25. How does Dorner have even the slightest paralell to a slave revolt?

He was college educated, an officer in the Marine Corps and a police officer. What slave ever had such a resume?

The fact that he's a sadistic murderer means firing him was a sound move by the LAPD to clean house. Smart DUmmie. Here's your banana.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #23)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:35 PM
 zappaman (7,243 posts)
26. What?

How on earth does this have ANYTHING to do with slave revolts? Nothing.
As for the rest of your post, I cannot comment since it makes no sense. It's gNads. You expected more?

[Chris_]

Try explaining that to the families of the men and women he's killed.

****ing ghouls.

[Mr Mannn]

liberals always look for a way to justify murderers.
That is why I don't want libs protecting me. They can't tell the difference between enemies and friends.

[chitownchica]

10. Fact-he killed multiple people. that supercedes any other consideration as of now.

Then he is nothing more than a vigilante and an anarchist.

Note-And I am not a fan of bad cops. And I come from NYC where there is like in Los Angeles, a history of bad cops
(why the good cops don't drive the bad ones out, I don't know).

But, can anyone here say they know the entire story of this case, except for what has been released?

There are like four different issues involved

One can be one who backs someone over three of the issues, however a private person killing multiple people is not one of the things I back.
That puts him in the same league as Zimmerman.

And yes Mr. Dorner is black. But that does not give one permission to overlook the murders...

[Chris_]

10. Fact-he killed multiple people. that supercedes any other consideration as of now.

Then he is nothing more than a vigilante and an anarchist.

You could have stopped there.

[Skul]

That thread went off over there.
Nice campfire.
Teh Grate Omni-impotent gNads had to jump in a couple more times.

Response to FSogol (Reply #28)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:04 PM
 TheKentuckian (16,859 posts)
38. Bullshit, civilians are under control and the police are one of the iron fists

in the toolbox of a system of controls by tiny few who rule and profit. Passing connections, wealth, and control down their lines like aristocrats of old. In many cases their blood descendants stretching back to the Holy Roman Empire or further back.

Occasionally, a bone is thrown to keep the pot from boiling over as long as the ruling class isn't overly disturbed. Every great while a sacrificial lamb is given up. Somewhat less often the next rung down knocks off the top and takes over under phony new management with new titles.


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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #38)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:13 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,051 posts)
43. This is the exact dynamic I am talking about.

Wheter a Jackerie, a corrido, or a ballad, identifying with the "bad guy" the psychology is similar. Ya, right.

I almost expect a norteño once it's over from the Ortega street, and music celebrating HS life from the wrong side f the tracts. Look, gNads learned how to use a squiggly thing.

The sociology is fascinating now. 

[Skul]

Still at it.

Response to FSogol (Reply #28)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:50 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,051 posts)
34. Alas I am not talking of Doener, but the identification you are seeing

Also what is going on in LA.

But carry on. As I asked, you come from the right side of the tracts, don't you? 

I got nothing. Who has the upgade gNads translator?
Then this.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #34)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:55 PM
 FSogol (15,152 posts)
36. In the Slave riots?

Edited to add, where did you ask me anything? The question was only implied. Bad DUmpmonkey for not seeing that.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #36)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:10 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,051 posts)
40. Here

The psychology, IMO, is similar

Shocking, you now what else is possible? A Corrido, or a ballad. Or a Fandango or a Waltz.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #40)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:23 PM
 FSogol (15,152 posts)
46. None of your words form a coherent sentence. I'm finished, so

go ahead and have the last word. Nah, you're safe.

Then this. 

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #23)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:42 PM
 graham4anything (4,981 posts)
29. Did you think O.J. Simpson was persecuted in Vegas? I did.

[Airwolf]

Anyone that tries to or does kill a cop or service member will be a hero at the DUmp . It's sickening to see it but it is there and from the looks of whats going on i reminds me of what sharks do when they smell blood in the water and more and more show up. The number of threads on this plus the way they are defending this is why I see this over there.

[USA4ME]

The angry left can moan and complain all they want.  Once this guy killed innocent people, his manifesto against the LAPD is viewed as worthless drivel.  The primitives and other kooks will complain his message was ignored, but it won't be anymore ignored than their insistance that this nut has something to say worth hearing.  Two peas in a pod; Dorner and the primitives.

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[98ZJUSMC]

Booooo-hoo-hoo-hoooo


He's an anti-hero!1111EleVenTy!!11!!!

      

  you.  Try criminal, jackasses.

[98ZJUSMC]

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Response to FSogol (Reply #28)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:50 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,051 posts)
34. Alas I am not talking of Doener, but the identification you are seeing

Also what is going on in LA.

But carry on. As I asked, you come from the right side of the tracts, don't you? 

Nah, it still doesn't help.....

[Skul]

Response to randome (Reply #44)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:54 PM
 99th_Monkey (6,707 posts)
70. I think the point is, that Dorner is NOT the ONLY villain

in this tawdry freak show. Not on DU!!! NEVER!!

For all we know, it's a staged event, Rove, you magnifisant bastard. so that massive
surveillance apparatus that Obama's been building can
document how private citizens respond and talk about
it on the internet.

Yes I have a capacity for distrusting impulsive rushes You are now barred from firearm ownership. to
judgment mid-way into these kinds of unfolding stories,
where someone goes bonkers with guns ablazing. Your mental state just disqualified you.

I just want the WHOLE story, the WHOLE truth to be told, Truth...Murdering psyco.
not just a dime-store novel with ONE conspicuous villain. Look at your self, DUmmie. You just ain't right in the head.

[Airwolf]

What was it that one guy said about wanting to know the truth?

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo[/youtube]

[chitownchica]

99th_Monkey (6,707 posts)
70. I think the point is, that Dorner is NOT the ONLY villain

in this tawdry freak show. Not on DU!!! NEVER!!

For all we know, it's a staged event, so that massive surveillance apparatus that Obama's been building can document how private citizens respond and talk about
it on the internet.

Better watch it there Monkeyboy.  Der Skinner will tombstone your ass asap if you even hint of a conspiracy involving Obama.  It's fine for you to come up with all kinds of outlandish bullshit involving Bush, but you are skating on thin ice if you apply that standard to the chosen one.

[Duke Nukum]

I've been wading through #Dorner on twitter this weekend. Some of these people have never had a thought.

Usually, interactions end up with me being blocked.

[BEG]

But they loved COPS during the Scott Walker sucks protest.

[formerlurker]

Response to FSogol (Reply #21)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:15 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,047 posts)
23. Look into slave revolts.

The psychology, IMO, is similar. And like most in US history, It will fail.

The sentiment is coming from what I described. This kettle is boiling, and I fear it might boil over.

For the record, it does, I am staying out of there. Wrong skin tone. 

Atta girl. 

Thank goodness the online rag that takes your ramblings doesn't require you to do... well, anything.    No way would you follow a real story.  You have sirens to listen for locally girl!

[vesta111]

At ta girl. 

Thank goodness the online rag that takes your ramblings doesn't require you to do... well, anything.    No way would you follow a real story.  You have sirens to listen for locally girl!

For the last 20+ years we watch movies and read true and fictional accounts on the FBI Profiling Unite.

This has spread to state and local police.    People want and need some, any kind of explanation on why people we know or hear about go NUTS.

Nuts scare the living crap out of us, none of us want to think any one goes to bed and awakens as a danger.   Our loved ones that wake up GAY, bank robbers or child molesters with no outward signs and live among us.   Subconscious says it this happens to them, could I be next ????

We need not an excuse for little Johnny setting the cat on fire but a reason he did so.  We need to know the signs of people that suddenly go amok.   Gives peace to us who wonder why a parent will kill their children, what on earth were they thinking ?   With no answers except they are crazy is not going to be of help to others with the signs of coming trouble in their lives.

I do believe the Profilers will be the people to track down this killer, just paper work and finding out more about the man then he knows himself.