buzzy primitive annoys the self-pitying New England primitives

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022341459

Oh my.

You know, it's been like a bright new day, since franksolich's old pal the rabbi returned to Skins's island.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:47 AM

Ok. The storm has mostly passed. Two feet of snow in some places. Lots of wind.

The Midwest gets hit by storms like this many times every year. We dress warmly, dig out, and go on.
 
ON EDIT: My son is living in Boston and has been for a few years. His only complaint about this storm was his internet went out just before the storm hit.

Bjorn Against (7,657 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:54 AM

1. I live in the midwest and we do not get storms like this "many times every year"

Two foot snowfalls are rare here in Minnesota and when they do happen it is even more rare for them to have winds exceeding 50 mph along with them. While this storm in the Northeast does not look like it is going to be unprecedented, it does look like the type of storm people will remember for a long time.

NutmegYankee (4,388 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:04 AM

5. I think it's a record breaker.

Many places in CT have snowfalls in the 30's of inches.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:28 AM

7. Thirty inches would be a high this year, but not a record or even close where I live.

Some folks are just not used to severe weather.

You think the people in Buffalo are doing anything but laughing at this?

NutmegYankee (4,388 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:32 AM

12. It's a record based on location.

And New England cities don't have records over 30 inches.

And Buffalo's 24 hour snowfall record is 37.9 inches. Milford, CT at 38.0 just topped them. So who's laughing now?

Cobalt Violet (7,982 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:00 PM

20. Plus didn't you know the Mid-west is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more populated...

then the east coast.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:26 AM

6. Consider yourself lucky.

In Indiana, we get hammered like this constantly.

Bjorn Against (7,657 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:16 PM

21. So when was the last time an ocean tide flooded your community during a blizzard?

If this happens to you constantly then I assume you will be able to list several examples.

DURHAM D (18,003 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:57 AM

2. If only we got these storms several times a year...

We need the moisture.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:28 AM

8. Not sure where you live, but we already had two of this magnitude.

We lived.

Cobalt Violet (7,982 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:00 AM

3. And how do ocean tides affect the midwest?

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)   Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:29 AM

9. OMG! The tides! They happen daily when you live on the coast.

Cobalt Violet (7,982 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:54 AM

18. As towns are flooding and homes are being lost in sea as we speak due to storm.

Yet you're just having a jealous fit that this storm is getting coverage. So nice of you.

leftynyc (9,619 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:00 AM

4. I'm in Southern Westchester in NY and we got 13 inches. The streets are already clear here. Some on Long Island got over 2 feet as did the majority of Connecticut. The problem is mostly when the storm is going on because of the vast numbers of commuters in New York. Getting everyone home is the problem because too many people wait until it's too late and that's how they wind up stuck on the Long Island Expressway or stuck at Penn or Grand Central Station. I'm hearing that Boston is breaking records with their snow. This wasn't your average snow storm.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:30 AM

11. Exactly. The problem is the number of people and proper adjustment to the storm,

... not the storm itself.

GreenPartyVoter (64,588 posts)   Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:34 AM

13. It's not that we can't handle it, it's that we don't get this kind of snow so much anymore. When I was a girl we had lots of snow in the winter here on the Maine coast. And the old folks would tell us, "You think this is a lot of snow and cold? My grandparents took the sleigh/car across the harbor to visit relatives when I was a boy." My husband used to wear his snowsuit under his Halloween costume and climb over drifts to visits houses back when he lived up north.
 
My own kids, they've seen my pansies still growing in November and December a couple of years back. The weather is just.. different.

WilliamPitt (53,587 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:36 AM

14. So you get a lot of ocean flooding at high tide, do you?

Scituate is underwater right now, and Hull is being evacuated.

<<<wonders if any primitives live in Scituate or Hull.

<<<hopes so.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:39 AM

15. We don't get hurricanes, either. Comes with the territory.

Sorry, Will. I just can't get worked up over this.

Cobalt Violet (7,982 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:57 AM

19. Because you are green with envy.

And it's not YOUR home that's being flooded. How dare they cover a major storm that doesn't effect you!

^^^mean nasty snarly old bitch.

mainer (6,220 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:22 PM

22. Still snowing hard in coastal Maine. Drifts higher than 5 feet blocking my doors.

With drifts all the way up to my downstairs windows.

Not gonna shovel until the wind stops blowing.

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:25 PM

23. That's wise. Drifts simply replace themselves after removal.

[franksolich]

This by the way is something similar with what's going to be hitting dutch508 in about six hours, and franksolich on the other side of the Sandhills in about twelve hours.....as it does every winter, several times.

The difference here being one won't hear dutch508 or franksolich whining about it.

[formerlurker]

Frank we get 12 inch+ snow storms several times throughout the winter (and fall... and spring....), as long as very serious ice storms.   Blizzards (which are hurricanes with snow) don't happen too often, so when they do it makes the news. 

[franksolich]

Frank we get 12 inch+ snow storms several times throughout the winter (and fall... and spring....), as long as very serious ice storms.   Blizzards (which are hurricanes with snow) don't happen too often, so when they do it makes the news. 

I'm not disputing you, madam.  No way.

I'm disputing the primitives' versions.

After all, who am I to believe--the national weather service, or the primitives?

It seems like a no-brainer to me.

[BEG]

Frank we get 12 inch+ snow storms several times throughout the winter (and fall... and spring....), as long as very serious ice storms.   Blizzards (which are hurricanes with snow) don't happen too often, so when they do it makes the news. 

We had blizzards frequently when I lived in Omaha and huge snow drifts that would block our doors. 

[formerlurker]

The science of a Northeast blizzard which distinguishes it from the rest:

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/northeast-blizzard-the-science-behind-the-storm/2013/02/08/38882a84-7217-11e2-8b8d-e0b59a1b8e2a_blog.html

[hillneck]

Buzz Clik (26,428 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:26 AM
6. Consider yourself lucky.
In Indiana, we get hammered like this constantly.

I don't know what part of Indiana this DUmmie lives in, but we don't get 30 inch snowstorms constantly.  Even in the north with lake effect 30 inches of snow is not normal.  Dumbass probably doesn't the difference in snow falling and drifting/blowing snow.  Then again it is a DUmmie talking.  They always "LIE".  

[thundley4]

We haven't but a couple of snowfalls so far this winter, and very little accumulation.  Never needed to shovel the drive, just sweep of the sidewalk.

[Vagabond]

Frank we get 12 inch+ snow storms several times throughout the winter (and fall... and spring....), as long as very serious ice storms.   Blizzards (which are hurricanes with snow) don't happen too often, so when they do it makes the news. 

pffffffffffffffft.  I've heard that line from yankees before.  Us locals (Floridians) told them to evacuate their dream beachfront or beach access home because it was going to get destroyed in the next twenty-four hours or so by a hurricane.  They'd look at us (down at us, the way only a yankee can manage) and declare, "I've been through blizzards, hurricanes don't scare me." 

The police would stop by and after they refused to leave, the police would ask for their next of kin's name and phone number, so they knew were to deliver the body when they found it, if they found it.

Then, in the middle of the storm, they talked to my sister on 911 dispatch.  They were begging and pleading for help as their home was destroyed around them.  My sister, knowing full well they had repeatedly refused to leave, would inform them that they would be put into the queue and someone would be by as soon as possible after the storm died down enough.

The ones that survived had a whole new respect for us southern hicks after that.  Needless to say, when they're told to evacuate now, they leave.

[formerlurker]

pffffffffffffffft.  I've heard that line from yankees before.  Us locals (Floridians) told them to evacuate their dream beachfront or beach access home because it was going to get destroyed in the next twenty-four hours or so by a hurricane.  They'd look at us (down at us, the way only a yankee can manage) and declare, "I've been through blizzards, hurricanes don't scare me." 

The police would stop by and after they refused to leave, the police would ask for their next of kin's name and phone number, so they knew were to deliver the body when they found it, if they found it.

Then, in the middle of the storm, they talked to my sister on 911 dispatch.  They were begging and pleading for help as their home was destroyed around them.  My sister, knowing full well they had repeatedly refused to leave, would inform them that they would be put into the queue and someone would be by as soon as possible after the storm died down enough.

The ones that survived had a whole new respect for us southern hicks after that.  Needless to say, when they're told to evacuate now, they leave.

I lived in Florida for three years - the "locals" are the ones who ignore the warnings the most.   At least that is how it was in the panhandle.

 

[formerlurker]

pffffffffffffffft.  I've heard that line from yankees before.  Us locals (Floridians) told them to evacuate their dream beachfront or beach access home because it was going to get destroyed in the next twenty-four hours or so by a hurricane.  They'd look at us (down at us, the way only a yankee can manage) and declare, "I've been through blizzards, hurricanes don't scare me." 

The police would stop by and after they refused to leave, the police would ask for their next of kin's name and phone number, so they knew were to deliver the body when they found it, if they found it.

Then, in the middle of the storm, they talked to my sister on 911 dispatch.  They were begging and pleading for help as their home was destroyed around them.  My sister, knowing full well they had repeatedly refused to leave, would inform them that they would be put into the queue and someone would be by as soon as possible after the storm died down enough.

The ones that survived had a whole new respect for us southern hicks after that.  Needless to say, when they're told to evacuate now, they leave.

Oh and what storm was this?

[franksolich]

Well, geezuz, nothing on Drudge about the travail Nebraska's going through.

The Nebraska Public Power District reported power outages to 559 customers in Bassett. Another 838 customers were without power in Atkinson as high winds moved through the area.

NPPD said power had been restored in Atkinson by 10 a.m. and in Bassett by 10:45 a.m.

Not a whimper of sympathy from the news media.

[franksolich]

I had to look it up.

Bassett, Nebraska, has 619 occupants, meaning the whole town was dark.

Atkinson, Nebraska, has 1,245 occupants, meaning three quarters of the whole town was dark.

And the New England primitives think they have something worth whining about.

[franksolich]

Well, it looks as if things are pretty much back to normal in New England; this is from Sunday morning--

And yet the New England primitives are still bitching.

Given the quickness of recovery, I assume the same thing happened here, that happened in New Jersey last October; Barack Milhous looked at it, and presto! instantly everything was back to normal, leaving not a trace behind, as if no storm had even happened.

[GOBUCKS]

Well, it looks as if things are pretty much back to normal in New England; this is from Sunday morning--
Given the quickness of recovery, I assume the same thing happened here, that happened in New Jersey last October; Barack Milhous looked at it, and presto! instantly everything was back to normal, leaving not a trace behind, as if no storm had even happened.

That Kenyan is doing a heckuva job.

[Skul]

I remember the blizzards in north-central Nebraska.  Any type of obstacle would build a drift behind it that was huge.
Gargantuan things that lasted for months.

[formerlurker]

I had to look it up.

Bassett, Nebraska, has 619 occupants, meaning the whole town was dark.

Atkinson, Nebraska, has 1,245 occupants, meaning three quarters of the whole town was dark.

And the New England primitives think they have something worth whining about.

I think there are 400K without power in the southeast portion of MA (which affects major commercial businesses).   Most schools in the state are still closed as side roads and sidewalks are not cleared.

Ice storm this morning, with two more storms heading here this week.

The groundhog better not vacation here anytime soon.

[formerlurker]

I remember the blizzards in north-central Nebraska.  Any type of obstacle would build a drift behind it that was huge.
Gargantuan things that lasted for months.

I have huge snow drifts in my yard.  I live in a town where high winds are a common occurrence 12 months out of the year regardless.   Sprinkle in a storm and it gets interesting.

[Vagabond]

Oh and what storm was this?

It was the panhandle, it was the ones down on the beach or out on Pensacola Island.  There were some over in Perdido key who had homes with really nice views.  There were some others that lived on houses that were out on a point where Escambia bay funneled down into the Escambia River (I was shocked any house had been permitted there.)  All of this occured during Ivan.

I grew up there and only missed a couple of storms that occured in the late '90s.  I had to go back before Ivan to convince my grandma to move out of her old frame house. I was at my parent's house with her and my niece through the storm.  My sister was manning the 911 call center, my mother was pulling duty at a shelter, my father was on standby at the prison road camp in Cantonment.

[formerlurker]

It was the panhandle, it was the ones down on the beach or out on Pensacola Island.  There were some over in Perdido key who had homes with really nice views.  There were some others that lived on houses that were out on a point where Escambia bay funneled down into the Escambia River (I was shocked any house had been permitted there.)  All of this occured during Ivan.

I grew up there and only missed a couple of storms that occured in the late '90s.  I had to go back before Ivan to convince my grandma to move out of her old frame house. I was at my parent's house with her and my niece through the storm.  My sister was manning the 911 call center, my mother was pulling duty at a shelter, my father was on standby at the prison road camp in Cantonment.

Ok so the panhandle is about 75% military.  When we are told to leave, we leave.   That is how it was the three years I was there (my husband was stationed at Hurlburt Field).

I remember being there for 2, or was it 3 hurricanes.   None of them hit us straight on, but they did want everyone to take the regular precautions.    The military families did so.  The locals did not, and I do recall a great deal of the locals laughing at the military families while they did so.

Also note that the tourists in that area are from Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia etc. - NOT New England, and I remember those idiots out in the water on Pensacola Island when one storm hit (couldn't believe what I was seeing on the news).   

[Vagabond]

Ok so the panhandle is about 75% military.  When we are told to leave, we leave.   That is how it was the three years I was there (my husband was stationed at Hurlburt Field).

I remember being there for 2, or was it 3 hurricanes.   None of them hit us straight on, but they did want everyone to take the regular precautions.    The military families did so.  The locals did not, and I do recall a great deal of the locals laughing at the military families while they did so.

Also note that the tourists in that area are from Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia etc. - NOT New England, and I remember those idiots out in the water on Pensacola Island when one storm hit (couldn't believe what I was seeing on the news).   

The idiots out on Pensacola Island aren't locals.  The tourists come from Alabama, Mississippi, and Tennessee and they're generally tolerable.  Snowbirds could be okay. 

There are a lot that come down from up north and bought property in those areas.  They are the ones that in county council meetings will suggest some random piece of idiocy and then say "and this is how we paid for it up north...(insert new tax here)" only to be shouted down with, "Then go back!"

The locals, the ones that have lived in the area for decades and generations don't laugh when the military pulls out.  We might go to ground, but we aren't laughing.

[vesta111]

Ok so the panhandle is about 75% military.  When we are told to leave, we leave.   That is how it was the three years I was there (my husband was stationed at Hurlburt Field).

I remember being there for 2, or was it 3 hurricanes.   None of them hit us straight on, but they did want everyone to take the regular precautions.    The military families did so.  The locals did not, and I do recall a great deal of the locals laughing at the military families while they did so.

Also note that the tourists in that area are from Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia etc. - NOT New England, and I remember those idiots out in the water on Pensacola Island when one storm hit (couldn't believe what I was seeing on the news).   

Some of us Yankees are down right weird when it comes to storms.  Do not understand it but there it is.

Early 90's Hurricane BOB hit and I decided to head to York Maine to watch the waves come in by the light house.  Boy friend at the time went along not very happy about it.   Half way to York the storm hit electric lines and trees went down and future husband pulled off the road and through clenched teeth told me to drive or we were going home.   I took over and when we reached the lighthouse the waves were breaking over the very top of it.   Wonderful photos for the 200-300 other people watching.    Darn there were people walking their dogs and the beach as the tide was out.  

These people are nuts I remarked to boyfriend who just gave me that look out of the corner of his eye.  

Winter storms on the sea coast have a beauty and magistracy all their own.  What draws us to risk life and limb to leave shelter and go out into these storms to wittiness the furry and grandeur of mother nature is beyond me.

Must be something in our blood that causes us to want to walk into danger when a flood, a tornado, a blizzard or huricane hits.  Most likely the same thing that set off the westard move knowing they had every chance of being killed and scalped, frozen to death or death by disease.

If one thinks I am crazy, check out the boys that load themselves into cylinders with no windors or doors, and decide to live at 1000 feet below the sea with no escape or way for the boys, most of them to not see or know where they are going and knowing they may be hunted for 3-6 months on end.  

High ^5 to sparky that survived a very unusual experience for 99% of the people that live on land.  

  

[98ZJUSMC]

There are a lot that come down from up north and bought property in those areas.  They are the ones that in county council meetings will suggest some random piece of idiocy and then say "and this is how we paid for it up north...(insert new tax here)" only to be shouted down with, "Then go back!"

   

Cobalt Violet (7,982 posts)    Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:54 AM

18. As towns are flooding and homes are being lost in sea as we speak due to storm.

Yet you're just having a jealous fit that this storm is getting coverage. So nice of you.

The Church of Liberal Progressive Fundamentalism looks forward to your next donation to it's Gorebal Warming Fund Drive, serf.

[JohnnyReb]

Blue people in blue states have all the huge problems.....us rednecks in red states have minor inconveniences.

[NHSparky]

I have huge snow drifts in my yard.  I live in a town where high winds are a common occurrence 12 months out of the year regardless.   Sprinkle in a storm and it gets interesting.

Our front yard is pretty open, so no drifts there to speak of.  But by the garage and the back porch (north side) got pretty interesting, especially clearing off the porch yesterday.