http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6288566Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 12:35 PM
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Question: Why is winning not enough? Why is Obama getting the Nomination not enough?
Please explain why most of GD-P is taken up by posts obsessed with the destruction of Senator Clinton.
I am really trying to understand this. I am really trying to get on the O-Train. But all I see is a party on the train that consists mostly of stomping on the body of a Democratic Senator.
She is down, you all won, why is this not enough?
Apparently the Obamaites think Barry "Goldwater" Obama can win in November without half the Democrats:
JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 12:37 PM
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2. Because Your Girl Chose To Piss In The Punch Bowl
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 12:45 PM
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22. Yes, but she did lose. First things first.
greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 01:27 PM
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82. She has screwed it up for any woman in the future seeking the nomination.
sfexpat2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 01:46 PM
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109. It's hard to tell if she's made it any easier at this point, that's for sure.
kineta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 03:42 PM
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150. There should be a prize for stupidest post of the day
Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 09:35 PM
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175. Actually, any female candidate who DOESN'T turn out to be a proven unrepentant liar will do fine.
Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 12:49 PM
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30. Well, as soon as she actually ends the campaign...
And as soon as she grabs her supporters by the nose and tells them to not vote for McCain and stand by the Democratic nominee...
Unfortunately I'm afraid neither of these events will come to pass.
thetaoofterri Donating Member (156 posts) Thu Jun-05-08 04:35 PM
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158. The implication was there...
Leaders lead by principle and example not by bullying and demeaning. It seems to me that if Obama wants to be the leader of our nation and he needs the support of those people who supported Hillary, he needs to take the leadership role and earn their support. If he can't do that, he's not the leader he thinks he is.
For you to characterize Clinton supporters as "slobbering" only serves to piss them off further and divide the party more than it already is.
Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 05:27 PM
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166. No doubt he would
However, I'm not Obama, am I?
For most Hillary supporters, the fact that Obama is the democratic nominee for president is good enough at this point. Most others will go ahead after Hillary endorses him.
However, there are those, like you mentioned, who believe that Obama will have to do something extra special to "Earn" their votes. What that something is is of course left unsaid (Good heavens, he might actually do it, if they said what it is!) Basically, htey feel Obama "owes" them for defeating Clinton in the primaries.
Like many Obama supporters, he wasn't my first choice. Or my second. I was for Kucinich, then Edwards. But I'm not going to bang the walls and demand that Obama "prove himself to me" and "Earn" my vote, as if I were owed something special from the man. I'm not. The voters have spoken, Obama's the guy they want our party to run, and I'll go with it. I'd be going with Hillary just the same, and be saying what I'm saying now to Obama supporters if the roles were reversed.
Saying "if Obama doesn't give ME what I want, I'm voting McCain!" absolutely is extortion. Since it's bound to not work, it's incompetent extortion. And the people who try to screw up the party I belong to and vote with in such a manner can all go get ****ed.
thetaoofterri Donating Member (156 posts) Thu Jun-05-08 09:32 PM
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173. Shaking my head at the sheer arrogance and ignorance...
Feel free to wallow in it all by yourself.
It's just really ugly, the way the Obamaite primitives Hate.
cap (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 12:37 PM
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3. I don't understand it at all either
Most of the board says that they can win without Hillary or the people who voted for her.
So why do you need her endorsement?
Beacool (1000+ posts) Thu Jun-05-08 01:14 PM
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57. Because they haven't done with their gloating yet.
Best ignore the kids until they come to the realization that they won't win without Hillary and her supporters.
It's a very large bonfire.
