Karl Rove and rich GOP donors wage war on Tea Party

[Dori]

I'm starting to think we are the RINOs, not them.

RINO stands for Republican in name only, and it is clear the Republican party is not the conservative party.
So, if the party is not conservative then we are the oddballs, not the establishment.

We have been trying to take back the party since 2009, but we have been fought against just as hard by the Republicans as we have been by the Democrats.
I believe that we are without a party and our views are not welcome by those who run the GOP. The goal of the GOP is for them to get in power and they don't care what they have to do to be in power. They will adopt any position where they think they can gain votes.

I wish we could just form our own party and break away from the GOP then eventually just replace them like they did to the Whigs.

Hannity constantly says he's not a registered Republican, that he's a registered Conservative.  Maybe if Republican's changed their voting registration it might wake up the DC crowd.

[Tucker]

Hannity constantly says he's not a registered Republican, that he's a registered Conservative.  Maybe if Republican's changed their voting registration it might wake up the DC crowd.

How does one become a registered conservative?

[Big Dog]

How does one become a registered conservative?

New York State has a Conservative Party.

[Conservative Libertarian]

The RNC has declared war on the Tea Party Conservatives.

They have sealed the death of the republican party.

[Tucker]

New York State has a Conservative Party.

Luckily, I'm not anywhere close to there.

ETA.

It needs to expand.

[5412]

Hi,

I am a registered independent here in FL which means I cannot vote in a primary. 

We can talk about a third party but realistically that just means we end up like Mexico with one party rule for a century.  Our best chance for survival and survival of the country is to take over the Republican party.  We damn near made it with the TEA party and I know no one who has changed their views that is conservative.  Personally, I think the minority side of the republican party is still in control.

regards,
5412

[Zeus]

IMHO the demise of and lack of influence of the Tea party republicans is being over exaggerated and under estimated. Look at the last round of elections, declared Tea party candidates won more elections than they lost. A ground up organization is going into the forum of two top down organizations and as such will be slow going as further support is garnered. unfortunately that may take some time considering the overall current political atmosphere.

[Freeper]

Hannity constantly says he's not a registered Republican, that he's a registered Conservative.  Maybe if Republican's changed their voting registration it might wake up the DC crowd.

Hannity is about as conservative as Karl Rove, only Hannity claims that he supports the Tea Party.
The reality is Hannity will support anyone with an R next to their name.

[Freeper]

Hi,

I am a registered independent here in FL which means I cannot vote in a primary.  

We can talk about a third party but realistically that just means we end up like Mexico with one party rule for a century.  Our best chance for survival and survival of the country is to take over the Republican party.  We damn near made it with the TEA party and I know no one who has changed their views that is conservative.  Personally, I think the minority side of the republican party is still in control.

regards,
5412

Yeah I know we are stuck with the GOP.
I will make a deal with you, and all conservative independents in FL, if you re register as a republican and vote in the primaries, I will do the same.
I couldn't bring myself to register as a repuke when I moved to FL, so I registered as NPA.

Now that I think about it people like us who registered as independents or no party affiliation are part of the problem, since we can't vote in the primaries, then we bitch and moan that we get stuck with RINOs. I don't know if us voting in the primaries can bring change, but it is worth a try.

[5412]

Yeah I know we are stuck with the GOP.
I will make a deal with you, and all conservative independents in FL, if you re register as a republican and vote in the primaries, I will do the same.
I couldn't bring myself to register as a repuke when I moved to FL, so I registered as NPA.

Now that I think about it people like us who registered as independents or no party affiliation are part of the problem, since we can't vote in the primaries, then we bitch and moan that we get stuck with RINOs. I don't know if us voting in the primaries can bring change, but it is worth a try.

Hi,

I would but I just cannot bring myself to do so.  I used to be a regular contributor to the party, got pictures signed by George and Laura Bush, you know the drill.  Now I don't send them a dime.  I will contribute directly to candidates I support, like Marco when he was running but not the party. 

Why sign up as a republican to get on more mailing lists I don't want to be on?

regards,
5412

[Freeper]

Hi,

I would but I just cannot bring myself to do so.  I used to be a regular contributor to the party, got pictures signed by George and Laura Bush, you know the drill.  Now I don't send them a dime.  I will contribute directly to candidates I support, like Marco when he was running but not the party. 

Why sign up as a republican to get on more mailing lists I don't want to be on?

regards,
5412

Just because you register as a republican doesn't mean you have to donate to the party.
If conservatives don't start voting in the primaries then how we will get rid of the establishment republicans?

[Conservative Libertarian]

Just because you register as a republican doesn't mean you have to donate to the party.
If conservatives don't start voting in the primaries then how we will get rid of the establishment republicans?

I vote Republican in the primaries. By the time my state has their primary, the rest of the country has already picked the candidate. I usually vote for someone other thanthe one annoited by the RNC that has cast me aside as irrelevant.

[Freeper]

I vote Republican in the primaries. By the time my state has their primary, the rest of the country has already picked the candidate. I usually vote for someone other thanthe one annoited by the RNC that has cast me aside as irrelevant.

I was thinking more along the lines of house and senate races, since it does seem that our presidential candidate is picked for us.

[Conservative Libertarian]

I was thinking more along the lines of house and senate races, since it does seem that our presidential candidate is picked for us.

I vote for the candidate that agrees most with the the Tea Party.

[docstew]

New York State has a Conservative Party.

So does North Carolina

Might have to consider that...

[Lacarnut]

I vote for the candidate that agrees most with the the Tea Party.

Me too but I am tired of voting for supposedly conservatives and then they fold like a wet noodle when  pressure is brought to bear on them. Need to get rid of Bonehead. He makes me ill.

[Conservative Libertarian]

Me too but I am tired of voting for supposedly conservatives and then they fold like a wet noodle when  pressure is brought to bear on them. Need to get rid of Bonehead. He makes me ill.

Roger Roger

[txradioguy]

Some interesting notes on teh Rove and the Executive Director of his new PAC.


Rove:

Supported Ford over Reagan in 1976

Supported Bush 41 over Reagan in 1980

Failed to gain a popular vote victory for Bush 43 in 2000.   Sent W to campaign for Arlen Spector over Pat Toomey in PA in 2004

As Sr. Political Advisor to W in 2006 lost the House and Senate to the Dems...which gave us Obama as President.

Used less than 10% of his PAC's  340 million dollar in the last election cycle on TEA Party Candidates.

Is going around not only trashing the TEA Party on Fox and talk radio...he's lying about Steve King and his comments about Todd Aiken.




Steven Law - Exec. Dir Conservative Victory Fund

Was the Executive Director of the RSCC from 1998 - 2000

Failed to gain any Senate seats in the 1998 mid terms despite the impeachment of Bill Clinton.

Lost 4 seats in the Senate in the 2000 election causing the Senate to be split after Dems coaxed "Jumpin" Jim Jeffords to join them.


These are the two supposedly smart "experts" that are going to lead us back to the White House and Control of Congress?

They should have named their PAC the Anti-Conservative Victory Fund.

[Zeus]

Lots of folks backed other candidates over Reagan in his ascension to the Presidency.  Seems they felt Reagan wasn't "Conservative " enough for their tastes.

Those that insist upon party/idealogical purity helped to bring about what is currently hampering the Republican party, Fractured and divided.

[CG6468]

Karl Rove should just fade away.

[txradioguy]

Lots of folks backed other candidates over Reagan in his ascension to the Presidency.  Seems they felt Reagan wasn't "Conservative " enough for their tastes.

Those that insist upon party/idealogical purity helped to bring about what is currently hampering the Republican party, Fractured and divided.

The point is that the candidates Rove has supported have all been to a large extent RINOs.

This isn't about some purity test...that's what the Paulbots and 100%'ers want.

But nominating a Republican  with actual conservative principals and ideas would be nice.

People like Rove are trying to convince us Dem-lite is the new Conservatism when its not.

[J P Sousa]

Lots of folks backed other candidates over Reagan in his ascension to the Presidency.  Seems they felt Reagan wasn't "Conservative " enough for their tastes.

Those that insist upon party/idealogical purity helped to bring about what is currently hampering the Republican party, Fractured and divided.

Well that's a new one on me. I worked for Reagan in the 1980 primary and most felt he was "too conservative".
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[Lacarnut]

Rove is a liar like most politicians and has an ego to match. When asked about why spending under Bush escalated, he comes up with these charts and percentages that are mind boggling. DC insiders are so out of touch with the average American. As long as we have people like him having an influence on the Repub. party, we are in deep shit. The RINO and Yankee establishment would rather have a liberal win an election than a Tea Party candidate. That way they at least retain a piece of the pie where Palin or a Tea Party candidate might kick  their ass to the curb.

[SaintLouieWoman]

Hi,

What a bunch of idiots!  I know a lot of folks like myself who get their invitations to donate all the time.  I write on them when they decide to get back to conservative, let me know.  I make sure to send them back in their postage paid envelopes too.  The rich donors better belly up because announcing something like this is just going to reduce donations even further.

If I wanted a socialst government I would donate to democrats.

regards,
5412

My MIL is something else. When the Republicans call and ask for donations, she says she'll donate when they get a set of balls. There's nothing more ardent than a conservative Republican who is a former dem. She saw the light and is giving the RINO's hell now.

[formerlurker]

PAC:   We need to raise more money to get our message out on these candidates we believe in. 

RC: I am not giving "them" my money until "they" give me a real conservative candidate.    I want a candidate who is this, this and they sure as hell better be this. 

PAC: Ok then.  Next.

RC:  "They" are ruining this country with RINOs.

PAC:  Thank you donors for your donations... we agree these candidates have the best shot at winning.

RC:     I won't vote.   I will stay home.   

DNC:  Hey I know he hasn't delivered on 99.999% of the promises he made, but he is a (D) so vote vote vote today!!

Election Day:   Barrack Hussein Obama is the winnah!!

DNC:  Of course he is,   HOORAY!!

PAC:   We need to raise more money for these candidates.

RC:  I am not giving "them" my money until "they" give me a real conservative candidate...

Wash.  Rinse. Repeat. 
 
We the people need to find a candidate who represents our values and can win.....it's just that "we" don't mean "me" to RC.