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I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« on: January 25, 2013, 09:11:24 PM »
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I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...

   
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If a woman has the will to have sex, then she takes the chance that she will end up carryng another human life inside of her, and she is reponsible for the well being of that life. Her rights end where the other beng's rght begin--specifically, the other being's right to life.

There is no denying that one of the end results of sexual intercourse for a woman is that she wll become pregnant, so if she engages in sexual intercourse then it shouldn't be a shock that she becomes pregnant. Except in the case of rape, no one forced her to do the act that ended in pregnancy.

You can couch it n any terms that you choose, and obviously, you are choosing incendiary terms, but the fact remains, without sex, no baby (except in the case of rape). Her "choice" begins when she chooses to have sex.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2258000

These are not my views.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022258192

What's wrong DUmmy does that statement make you feel a tiny bit of guilt?

In another thread they were discussing shaming fat people, I say we need to shame abortion supporters.

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sinkingfeeling (26,844 posts)
1. Doesn't the man also have a choice to not impregnate a woman? Frankly, I'd

encourage all women to avoid sex with men who have such an attitude as the one expressed by that poster.

Lucky for me, my wife hates abortion so I don't have to worry about being cut off.

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liberalhistorian (18,825 posts)
10. For the record, the poster he's referring to and who's well-known

here for such views is a woman.

This DUmmy used to post at our old home, I can't remember what her CU name was though.

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sinkingfeeling (26,844 posts)
14. Well, then, I suggest she be very careful when making her choices and she leave the rest

of us alone.

How about you be very careful when making your choice whether to own a gun or not, and leave the rest of us alone.

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leftynyc (9,527 posts)
16. I could post and say I'm a man

just as easily as someone can say they're a woman. Just saying....

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liberalhistorian (18,825 posts)
18. True enough, but I've had the misfortunate

of knowing plenty of women with just these views, so I don't have much trouble believing that she's female. Just because you're a woman doesn't mean you're not going to have anti-female views.

Yeah those crazy women who don't think abortion is a good thing.  :mental:

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59. Yikes. . . . If she's so anti-choice,

I'd hope she'd choose NOT to have an abortion and leave everybody else the **** alone.

If only liberals had the same views they have on abortion for everything else, then this country wouldn't be in such trouble, but they want to dictate every aspect of our lives, yet when it comes to murdering the unborn they tell everyone to stay out.  :mental:

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6. how does anything that cannot live on its own

have a right to life?
that never made sense to me...

Do I even need to say what's wrong with that?

If we adopted that attitude every DUmmy would starve to death. None of them pea brains can take care of themselves so why is it they have the right to live and the right to every freebie under the sun, yet the unborn have no right to live?

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35. I am AGAINST anti-Choice. There should be no higher authority than the woman's own.

I think part of what we are struggling about is the power to influence that authority one way or another.

Within limits established by whatever best serves the freedom to make fully autonomous choices, I am also for our participation in the CONTEXT for choices, because we ARE the context and it would be a lie for this particular bit of context to say that every woman I ever met, many of them with children, or soon to bear one of more, is/was a FREE agent in the "choices" she is/was making, including whether to have an abortion or not.

That said, it still DOES NOT WORK for me/others to make those choices for such women one way or another, especially regarding child bearing and raising, but even with that caution, I can still accept some responsibility to call all of us out, including myself and also including any given or prospective mother, on our responsibilities to be honest about how free we are or are not in what we refer to as our "choice". I need that, non-mothers need that, mothers need that, and children need that honesty.

So tell me why is it women are so special they get to have this choice, yet the rest of us must submit to your choices for every aspect of our lives?

Why is it we can't trust a woman to regulate her salt intake, can't trust her to choose what size soda she wants, can't trust  her to choose to have a gun, but has the absolute right to make the choice on whether a living human being lives or dies?

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26. So someone disagrees with one of the Democratic Platfom planks

Does that make them un-Democratic? Unworthy of posting opinions?

They'renot your views. Nor mine. Is it a big deal?

At DU you must subscribe to everything the democrat party believes in or you will be shown the door. There is no room for disagreement no matter how small at DU.

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30. That poster also calls abortion murder

And women who have abortions murderers. I've been told she used to be even worse.

And has been mentioned glowingly on RW blogs, as cited here several times, as well as being "in bed" with quite a few anti choice and other RW organizations. I won't link, since they mention her real names.

I also don't get how she's allowed to keep spouting these views, especially since they are 100% the Dem platform. And, other posters have been PRRed from DU3 for these same views.

Well she is right. Women who abort their babies are murderers and the so called doctors who do it are nothing more than butchers.

I seriously hate these so called people.

I may not lock my doors while sitting at a red light and a black man is near, but I sure as hell grab on tight to my wallet when any democrats are close by.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 09:15:02 PM »
I seriously hate these so called people.

Freep, call them 'individuals.'  As in, 'individual pieces of shit.'

See how that works? O-) :-) :whistling:
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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 09:18:47 PM »
Freep, call them 'individuals.'  As in, 'individual pieces of shit.'

See how that works? O-) :-) :whistling:

The problem is, individual does not apply to those who are part of a collective. They may each be a different piece of shit, but they are all from the same turd.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 09:32:17 PM »
liberalhistorian -- wasn't she "LisaBTrucking" at CU ?

And if So, I fondly remember smacking her down in her defense of mike_c --where she claimed he never brings politics into the classroom, by reproducing a post where mike_c himself proudly claimed he brings politics into the classroom every chance he gets.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 09:34:26 PM »
liberalhistorian -- wasn't she "LisaBTrucking" at CU ?

And if So, I fondly remember smacking her down in her defense of mike_c --where she claimed he never brings politics into the classroom, by reproducing a post where mike_c himself proudly claimed he brings politics into the classroom every chance he gets.
Yes.

Didn't she marry the guy?  Haven't heard from her since (not that I care).
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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 09:34:57 PM »
Leftists are all about diversity...as long as everyone thinks exactly the same (& correct) thing(s).
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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 09:39:47 PM »
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30. That poster also calls abortion murder

It is, ****wad. Go jump into a lit furnace.
Caught somewhere in time

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 09:41:34 PM »
Yes.

Didn't she marry the guy?  Haven't heard from her since (not that I care).

I had no idea they were 'involved'  - well if you are gonna get 'buggered' by someone, might was well see a professional at it, I suppose..  :-)

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM »
liberalhistorian -- wasn't she "LisaBTrucking" at CU ?

And if So, I fondly remember smacking her down in her defense of mike_c --where she claimed he never brings politics into the classroom, by reproducing a post where mike_c himself proudly claimed he brings politics into the classroom every chance he gets.

We don't have any pet libs anymore.  :rotf:
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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:43:54 PM »
I thought they were 'involved'.  I remember she came back and defended him after he posted in another one of the DUmp's pro-pedophile/child-porn threads.
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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 09:54:10 PM »
We don't have any pet libs anymore.  :rotf:

They don't stick around long, do they ? Even though they aren't banned for simply being libs. I wonder why ? ...   :-)

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 10:20:15 PM »
They don't stick around long, do they ? Even though they aren't banned for simply being libs. I wonder why ? ...   :-)

If only the Paul bots would take a hike too.  :-)
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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 11:21:16 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022258192

What's wrong DUmmy does that statement make you feel a tiny bit of guilt?

I am seeing this more and more out of the insufferably smug proggies.  They are, essentially, throwing away the decades old: "Life doesn't begin at (insert whatever date you choose)" argument.  I agree.  Deep down, they feel guilty as hell.  Now, unfortunately, they're moving toward: "Yeah, it's murder....so what?" Never let something as trivial as murder get in the way of the Narrative®


I seriously hate these so called people.


I hate using the term "people" describing these evil bastards.  I wish I could just call them  the :censored:   :censored:  :censored:   :censored: that they truly are.  However, decorum......
              

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 04:58:51 AM »
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6. how does anything that cannot live on its own

have a right to life?
that never made sense to me...

So children under 5, the mentally handicapped, the infirm, older people--none of these?

How about people who subsist on government handouts? They can't live on their own, either. Can we chop them up with a vacuum and a razor blade?

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 05:19:07 AM »
I'm simply at a loss over the DUmmies who cry and scream over Newtown, yet had those poor kids been forcibly aborted 6 years ago in a doctors office they would have no problem with it.

I just can't, no matter how hard I try, I just can't even begin to fathom what's it's like to think like a DUmmie.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2013, 10:37:44 AM »
I'm simply at a loss over the DUmmies who cry and scream over Newtown, yet had those poor kids been forcibly aborted 6 years ago in a doctors office they would have no problem with it.

I just can't, no matter how hard I try, I just can't even begin to fathom what's it's like to think like a DUmmie.

All the low IDers can do is what their elites tell them to and what they tell them to do is to give them more power. Useful idiots is all they aspire and all their intellect will let them be.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2013, 10:41:10 AM »
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6. how does anything that cannot live on its own

have a right to life?
that never made sense to me...

Well said, (D)Ullard. Well said!  BTW, how's Moms basement and your EBT card doing?

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2013, 10:44:27 AM »
Sadly, I think you're correct.

All the low IDers can do is what their elites tell them to and what they tell them to do is to give them more power. Useful idiots is all they aspire and all their intellect will let them be.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2013, 10:48:53 AM »
I'm simply at a loss over the DUmmies who cry and scream over Newtown, yet had those poor kids been forcibly aborted 6 years ago in a doctors office they would have no problem with it.

I just can't, no matter how hard I try, I just can't even begin to fathom what's it's like to think like a DUmmie.

Check this out:
An Honest and Horrifying Admission
              

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2013, 12:08:11 PM »
Excellent article. Thanks for the link.

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Re: I can't believe these anti-choice extreme views are on DU...
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2013, 01:50:30 PM »
Excellent article. Thanks for the link.

As with anything, everything else, they lie and simply couldn't care less.
              

Liberal thinking is a two-legged stool and magical thinking is one of the legs, the other is a combination of self-loating and misanthropy.  To understand it, you would have to be able to sit on that stool while juggling two elephants, an anvil and a fragmentation grenade, sans pin.

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