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Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« on: January 17, 2013, 08:13:28 PM »
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Action heroes all used to smoke, and now they don't. Even in period pieces where their not smoking would be absurd it gets made fun of. This stopped because of moral pressure.

Action heroes still shoot. Maybe they shouldn't. I'm not saying this would stop gun violence, anymore than smoking has stopped. I'm not even talking about non-violence, as cool as it is.

I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out. And there are plenty of martial arts movies where the hero has a taboo against guns. Why not make that be the Hollywood norm rather than gunfights.

I'm someone who has used guns professionally about half of my adult life, on farms and in the Marines. I am familiar with guns, I admire the engineering behind them, and I find them utterly tedious. (You have no idea how much cleaning they entail if you're not a gun person. Seriously.)

Imagine seeing a spreadsheet romanticized. That's kind of how I feel about guns being romanticized. We don't need to do that.

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Like we haven't wussified this country bad enough. Now the good guys in the movies will talk out their feelings with the bad guys until the bad guys turn themselves in.  :whatever:

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3. If you don't like shooting in movies, don't see it.

I like action movies. If they hire Jackie Chan as the next james bond, and he uses karate I'm going to be pissed.

Isn't that  :waisis:
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 08:19:25 PM »
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out.
There's an old saying about bringing knives to a gun fight.  :whistling:
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 08:23:37 PM »
Quote from: Skul on January 17, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
There's an old saying about bringing knives to a gun fight.  :whistling:

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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 08:31:14 PM »
Speaking of smoking and movies, I have been on an old movie kick lately. I watched All About Eve and Mildred Pierce while I have been sick. Talk about smoking like crazy. Especially All About Eve. Bette Davis smoked like it was going out of style. It was kinda gross.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 08:36:46 PM »
Quote from: BEG on January 17, 2013, 08:31:14 PM
Speaking of smoking and movies, I have been on an old movie kick lately. I watched All About Eve and Mildred Pierce while I have been sick. Talk about smoking like crazy. Especially All About Eve. Bette Davis smoked like it was going out of style. It was kinda gross.
Does that mean you quit?  :???:
I thought you were already "smokin".   :whistling:
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 08:43:27 PM »
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out.

You mean like the Zorro movies, The Three Musketeers, Pirates of the Caribbean, things like that?
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 08:47:05 PM »
Quote from: Skul on January 17, 2013, 08:36:46 PM
Does that mean you quit?  :???:
I thought you were already "smokin".   :whistling:

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By the way, I have never tried smoking.  I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross.  If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking.  :p
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 09:43:50 PM »
Quote from: BEG on January 17, 2013, 08:47:05 PM
:-*

By the way, I have never tried smoking.  I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross.  If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking.  :p
I always have Ballygirl to fall back on.  :-)
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 09:44:52 PM »
Quote from: Skul on January 17, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
I always have Ballygirl to fall back on.  :-)

You are no longer in the running  :mad:
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 10:22:32 PM »
Maybe the movies should quit glamorizing drugs. Just saying.

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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 10:27:05 PM »
Right, I can see it now - Grindhouse presents "Hobo with a Water Pistol."

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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 11:09:06 PM »
Quote from: BEG on January 17, 2013, 09:44:52 PM
You are no longer in the running :mad:
My own ball-and-chain agrees with you.  O-)

Quote from: Texacon on January 17, 2013, 10:22:32 PM
Maybe the movies should quit glamorizing drugs. Just saying.

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That would be a good start.
After that, they can stop glamorizing misfits with firearms as being the answer to any persieved wrong doing.
The "wrong doers" of course, are always anybody in authority or the military.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 11:15:30 PM »
My absolute favorite movie is The Boondock Saints.  Full of smoking, drinking, and guns  :-)
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 11:42:52 PM »
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out. And there are plenty of martial arts movies where the hero has a taboo against guns. Why not make that be the Hollywood norm rather than gunfights.


How about Kill Bill I and II? No bloody gun violence. (Great movies.)

How about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No violent Smith & Wesson, just Stihl and Husqvarna.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 12:10:46 AM »
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How about Kill Bill I and II? No bloody gun violence. (Great movies.)

How about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No violent Smith & Wesson, just Stihl and Husqvarna.
I "saw" what you did.  :whistling:
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 12:14:13 AM »
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I'm someone who has used guns professionally about half of my adult life, on farms and in the Marines. I am familiar with guns, I admire the engineering behind them, and I find them utterly tedious. (You have no idea how much cleaning they entail if you're not a gun person. Seriously.)

I'm calling bullshit.   :bs:

A).  It's the very rare Jarhead that doesn't like firearms, wartime psychological issues notwithstanding.  In fact, every combat vet I know, is a shooter, to a varying degree.  I, myself, stopped hunting some years ago because I find the process of cleaning game tedious and I refuse to kill that which I do not plan to clean and eat.  

B).  The last thing they find them are tedious.

Fencing?  Well.....plusing up your insufferable elitist (D)Umbass cred, eh?

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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out.

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There's an old saying about bringing knives to a gun fight. 
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 01:03:19 AM »
Jeffery Deaver tried that in "Carte Blanche", the last James Bond book.  It sucked.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2013, 01:14:27 AM »
Quote from: Jasonw560 on January 17, 2013, 08:43:27 PM
You mean like the Zorro movies, The Three Musketeers, Pirates of the Caribbean, things like that?

I guess the DUmbass never saw this one either...

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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2013, 01:17:28 AM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 17, 2013, 11:42:52 PM


How about Kill Bill I and II? No bloody gun violence. (Great movies.)

How about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No violent Smith & Wesson, just Stihl and Husqvarna.

And what about Tucker & Dale vs. Evil? Just one bit of gun violence in that one and it was a self inflicted wound at that.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2013, 01:18:27 AM »
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2013, 04:29:08 AM »
Quote from: BEG on January 17, 2013, 08:47:05 PM
:-*

By the way, I have never tried smoking.  I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross.  If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking.  :p

Never tried it, and never intend to. O-)
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2013, 06:49:05 AM »
I can't wait for Star Trek.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2013, 07:33:00 AM »
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I can't wait for Star Trek.

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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2013, 07:35:39 AM »
So, I'm home today (took a leave day to get the house ready for Velvet and the trainer). I'm sitting here, first cup of coffee in hand, reading the CC, and what did I see?

"Movie horses stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?"

I said to myself, "Movie horses?"



Then the caffeine thawed out my brain a little.

"Oh, movie heroes."

Carry on.
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Re: Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2013, 09:10:25 AM »
I'm thinking of an action film reduced to a DUmp bouncy...somehow I don't see that thought gaining much traction.
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