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Offline dandi

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You knew it was coming
« on: January 16, 2013, 11:07:17 PM »
How many DUmmies laughed at the idea that something like this would ever be postulated?

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Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia
Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.
As a young boy, Paul Christiano loved the world of girls — the way they danced, how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics.
 
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Like many forms of sexual deviance, pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is a deep-rooted predisposition — limited almost entirely to men — that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.

The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescent children.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115,0,197689.story?track=lat-pick

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022194724

The normalization of every kind of deviancy imaginable continues unabated, something the homosexuals swore would never happen and was just hysteria on the part of non-perverted people.

No time to bring responses over right now. "Suffice it to say", while some are outraged, a few are "open-minded" about it.


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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 11:32:36 PM »
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Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.

All the more reason to give them the death penalty and save them from years of self torture or recidivism.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 01:31:07 AM »
I think every one of these sick freaks should be given a post birth abortion. By people who were abused by pedophiles as children. The revenge fantasies in our minds...

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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 03:32:14 AM »
This is the same "research" Rush reported on last week, that had the Lameass media types joking and giggling over his comments like a bunch of sugared-up 5 year-olds.

About the same level of intelligence from them as well.   :mental:

Anybody (and I mean ANYBODY) who thinks pedophilia is or deserves any type of "normalicy" should be flogged about the head and shoulders with a blunt instrument until their IQ increases!
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2013, 05:36:15 AM »
Quote from: diesel driver on January 17, 2013, 03:32:14 AM
Anybody (and I mean ANYBODY) who thinks pedophilia is or deserves any type of "normalicy" should be flogged about the head and shoulders with a blunt instrument until their IQ increases!

..or at least starts running out of their ears. ..
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2013, 06:57:57 AM »
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..or at least starts running out of their ears. ..

I prefer that outcome, Miskie.  H5.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 07:15:54 AM »
This article is disgusting.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 07:31:13 AM »
Quote from: dandi on January 16, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
How many DUmmies laughed at the idea that something like this would ever be postulated?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022194724

The normalization of every kind of deviancy imaginable continues unabated, something the homosexuals swore would never happen and was just hysteria on the part of non-perverted people.

No time to bring responses over right now. "Suffice it to say", while some are outraged, a few are "open-minded" about it.





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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 07:49:17 AM »
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31. You don't seem to understand this issue at all.

There are pedophiles everywhere who don't act on their desire. Those people are NOT predators. Equating pedophilia with child abuse is the very definition of thought crimes and does not belong in a civilized society. This has NOTHING to do with consent, it's sick and sad that you'd make that connection. 

 :o    Look at him call the other one "sick and sad." 

And he sticks to his story, no matter what.

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52. I'm not defending child molesters, and you seem to be conflating the two.

Pedophilia, by it's very definition, means a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. You are suggesting that that itself is predatory and that is (once again) sick. It's thought policing and it belongs nowhere in civilized society. 
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65. So you are simply agreeing that its a valid

Sexual orientation, correct?

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108. It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you.

Surely something you've thrown in so you can accuse me of "defending pedophiles" whatever that means. Apparently, in your mind it means not throwing them in jail for the thoughts that they think. It's clearly a sexual orientation due to the extremely large number of people out there who fall into line with it. But I'm sure you know better, Dr. What a laugh. Again, thought crimes are disgusting.

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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 07:58:40 AM »
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46. Thanks for the lesson, Dr. Ism. On which internet site did you learn that gem?

Do you really not understand how many grown men have an attraction to children? Up to 5% doesn't sound ridiculous at all, perhaps even low. The great majority of them DON'T act on their desire because they know it's wrong. It's those people who you sickly call predators. You believe in the thought police, that's disgusting.

No, I don't, you sick ****ing weirdo. You should be in a mental institution.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2013, 08:01:31 AM »
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108. It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you.


Surely something you've thrown in so you can accuse me of "defending pedophiles" whatever that means. Apparently, in your mind it means not throwing them in jail for the thoughts that they think. It's clearly a sexual orientation due to the extremely large number of people out there who fall into line with it. But I'm sure you know better, Dr. What a laugh. Again, thought crimes are disgusting.

Get this sick bastard out of the general population.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2013, 08:03:04 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 17, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
Get this sick bastard out of the general population.

Naaah, put him in the 'general population' . . .

In a Federal prison. :fuelfire: O-)
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 08:04:40 AM »
Quote from: Rebel on January 17, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
Get this sick bastard out of the general population.

Chris_ here used to have as a most excellent "signature," a quote about drifting leftward, always towards a new "normal."  I hope he'll post it here, and I promise I'll save it.  It fits this case perfectly.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 08:57:47 AM »
Declaring EVERYTHING normal pretty much changes the definition of normal...
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 09:04:47 AM »
I think mandatory impact casteration should be tried.
Even if it didn't work, it'd sure be fun to try anyway.  :whistling:
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 09:07:11 AM »
I have a single shot that will cure any sexual perversion known to man......or woman......but liberals won't let me use it.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2013, 09:08:28 AM »
Quote from: Big Don on January 17, 2013, 08:57:47 AM
Declaring EVERYTHING normal pretty much changes the definition of normal...
This has been the goal of NAMBLA since day one as in years and years.

That said the door has been opened by the federal govt on GBLT.  They have in fact been declared OK, by law and are now included in the Federal minority statutes, giving them special rights and privileges you and i (read WHITEY) do not have have.

This now begs the question, can we deny Peds the same rights as GBLT?

Putting on my lawyer hat:  We have acknowledged that GBLT are deviant behavior, however we have legalized that behavior by an act of Congress, how can you accept and legalize one deviant behavior and not legalize others, that would be DISCRIMINATION...I will let you make the call on how the SCOTUS will rule.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2013, 09:17:38 AM »
Why is it getting so much warmer, and why are we all in a handbasket?
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2013, 09:19:52 AM »
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Why is it getting so much warmer, and why are we all in a handbasket?

Let me guess.....we're getting close to Florida?
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2013, 09:40:15 AM »
Quote from: dandi on January 16, 2013, 11:07:17 PM
How many DUmmies laughed at the idea that something like this would ever be postulated?

The queer lovers at CU laughed at this and poo-pooed the notion that there was a "slippery slope" back in September.  One of the arguments was that an attraction to the same sex was a sexual orientation while an attraction to small children was not.  Their tiny minds shot right past the fact that normalizing deviant sexual behavior in the 1970s only opened the door to sliding the standard even further into the toilet.

It's not just the DUmp that lives in denial.

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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2013, 09:53:53 AM »
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59. I understand this is a tough subject and touches a lot of nerves

But speaking as someone that has studied some psychology, I think it is important to understand this....not accept it, but understand it. And right now we really don't understand this because it's considered so taboo that people don't even want psychologists to study it. Just execute them, many will say. That's not going to solve much. Evidence of pedophilia go back all the way through history. So you will never be able to execute them all.

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64. Plus, 'catching' a predator occurs after the abuse.

If we can gain better insight into the causes, maybe some abuse can be prevented.

Why would you want to do that?  We are told that homosexuals cannot control their behavior, and now this says pedophiles can't control theirs.  What's the difference?  How can you justify permitting one and not the other?

See liberals, you can't.  If one is OK then so is the other.

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39. Too bad. This disease harms innocent children and no amount of experts trying to tame the idea with words like sexual orientation is going to normalize it. We are animals deep in our psyche and animals kill to protect their young. How about experts normalize this immutable fact.

Harms innocent children?  Says who?  Who are you to judge whether a child is harmed anymore than if homosexuals are harming each other by their conduct?  Just because of their age?  Give it time and your wonderful scientists that you adore will reach a consensus that pedophilia doesn't harm children.  Then what will you do?  Fall in line, just like you want to do now.

Liberals are looking to eliminate Age of Consent laws, there's no doubt.  And when the push to make it happen starts getting better organized, the primitives will be right on board cheering it on.

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44. The study showed these sick, defective shits were confusing wants with needs?

I dunno, I missed that part.

As for the human filth, some of the more loathesome apologists propose that kiddie porn be legalized, only computer generated or animated of course, so that "no one gets hurt"... apparently completely ignorant (willfully so, IMNSHO) that rewarding their indefensible appetites with as strong of a positive feedback mechanism as orgasm will necessarily increase their monstrous ideation.

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47. "...a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change..."

I think that's implied.

I don't think kiddie porn should be legalized under any circumstances. I agree the risk is too great. Porn has an influence on those with established deviant tendencies.

There shouldn't be computer generated kiddie porn because it might cause them to really act out their fantasies, but on Skin's island they tell me a violent video game where you get to kill everyone in sight has no effect on the pysche of the one playing.  OK, hypocrite much?

Liberals/Progressives will be on board for lowering Age of Consent laws, it's just a matter of time.

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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2013, 10:01:30 AM »
Quote from: USA4ME on January 17, 2013, 09:53:53 AM

There shouldn't be computer generated kiddie porn because it might cause them to really act out their fantasies, but on Skin's island they tell me a violent video game where you get to kill everyone in sight has no effect on the pysche of the one playing.  OK, hypocrite much?

Without those violent video games to entertain their kids, liberals might actually have to do some serious parenting.

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Liberals/Progressives will be on board for lowering Age of Consent laws, it's just a matter of time.
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We have a woman on the U.S. Supreme Court that stated long ago that she thought the age of consent for girls should be 12.
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2013, 10:10:18 AM »
Quote from: USA4ME on January 17, 2013, 09:53:53 AM
Why would you want to do that?  We are told that homosexuals cannot control their behavior, and now this says pedophiles can't control theirs.  What's the difference?  How can you justify permitting one and not the other?

See liberals, you can't.  If one is OK then so is the other.

Harms innocent children?  Says who?  Who are you to judge whether a child is harmed anymore than if homosexuals are harming each other by their conduct?  Just because of their age?  Give it time and your wonderful scientists that you adore will reach a consensus that pedophilia doesn't harm children.  Then what will you do?  Fall in line, just like you want to do now.

Liberals are looking to eliminate Age of Consent laws, there's no doubt.  And when the push to make it happen starts getting better organized, the primitives will be right on board cheering it on.

There shouldn't be computer generated kiddie porn because it might cause them to really act out their fantasies, but on Skin's island they tell me a violent video game where you get to kill everyone in sight has no effect on the pysche of the one playing.  OK, hypocrite much?

Liberals/Progressives will be on board for lowering Age of Consent laws, it's just a matter of time.

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USA, this is FAR more organized than you may think.  I have followed this and written on it for at least 10 years and I am sure I was not on the leading edge.  This study is not the only one that has been released on this subject and they all drawn the same conclusion...its an illness.  The move is on now, NAMBLA is in the background because if they were up front it would turn folks off.  I fully expect a major push to get the feds to bring them into the GBLT fold.  Also by having the feds declare it as an illness this gives them (wanna guess?) yep you are right FREE MEDICAL care, SS disability, PRIORITY hiring in the federal govt and the list goes on and on of benefits...but MOST of all its gives them PROTECTION, both legal and societal.  Meaning when some Ped you catch feeling up your 6 yr old daughter or son and you drop his ball sack thru the goal posts of life, not only are YOU going to jail (and he is not) but now he is gonna sue your azz for discrimination and is gonna win...
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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2013, 10:15:40 AM »
Quote from: franksolich on January 17, 2013, 08:04:40 AM
Chris_ here used to have as a most excellent "signature," a quote about drifting leftward, always towards a new "normal."  I hope he'll post it here, and I promise I'll save it.  It fits this case perfectly.
Ayn Rand wrote it...

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Re: You knew it was coming
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2013, 11:03:28 AM »
Quote from: Chris_ on January 17, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
Ayn Rand wrote it...

"The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by precedent, by implication, by erosion, by default, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other - until the day when they are suddenly declared to be the country's official ideology."

Thank you; I just copied it to a Word document for future and constant reference.
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