Pelosi: Obama should just use the 14th Amendment to set his own debt ceiling

[Eupher]

It’s always good to see Congressional leaders defending the separation of powers, isn’t it? For someone who told reporters in November that she’s “always with the Constitution,” Nancy Pelosi seems eager to flush the legislative branch’s power of the purse down the drain when her political party controls the executive branch:

[video of Pelousy at the link]

Pelosi’s solution to the impasse is for the president to — as some scholars have proposed — bypass Congress and invoke the 14th Amendment, which states that “[t]he validity of the public debt … shall not be questioned.”

“We always passed the debt ceiling [increases] when President Bush was president, as he was incurring these massive debts and the Republicans weren’t saying ‘boo’ at the time,” Pelosi said when asked why Congress can’t solve these problems before they become crises.

“There should be — this is a conversation where there should be no doubt. In fact, if I were president, I would use the 14th Amendment, which says that the United States will always be paying … I would just go do it, right. But the Congress has incurred much of this debt. So what are we saying? We incurred it, but we’re not going to pay it? If you want to say we’re not going to do it so much in the future, well, that’s another thing, but you can’t say I’m not paying my past debts.”

This is an improvement for Pelosi. A few weeks ago, she didn’t know enough about the Constitution to pick the right amendment:

[2nd video of Pelousy at the link]

One reason why those Congresses always approved the debt ceiling increases is because those Congresses always passed a budget through normal order.  Pelosi’s Democrats have blocked that process since April 2009, and even in the final Bush term blocked the FY2009 budget in 2008 until Obama took office.  It’s not the Republicans who have been obstructing normal order on budgets, which would produce a debt ceiling increase to match the spending necessary in a normal budget.  The problem isn’t that Barack Obama needs dictatorial powers, it’s that Harry Reid has all but assumed them in breaking the law for the last three-plus years in refusing to produce budgets in the Senate.

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[Eupher]

The stupid bitch utterly fails to understand the 14th Amendment.

That clause has to do with CURRENT debt -- not FUTURE debt.

Go stand in the corner, Nancy. Since you're an imbecile of the worst order, you don't have the wherewithal to get behind any rostrum.

[Zeus]

The stupid bitch utterly fails to understand the 14th Amendment.

That clause has to do with CURRENT debt -- not FUTURE debt.

Go stand in the corner, Nancy. Since you're an imbecile of the worst order, you don't have the wherewithal to get behind any rostrum.

She's a lefty , they believe it's a constitutional mandate to spend other peoples money.

[NHSparky]

WTF does the 14th Amendment have to do with the debt?

I doubt this botoxed bink has looked at the Constitution, let alone read it, let alone UNDERSTANDS it.

[Freeper]

She says 0bamacare is Constitutional so it is clear she has no idea.

[thundley4]

The stupid bitch utterly fails to understand the 14th Amendment.

That clause has to do with CURRENT debt -- not FUTURE debt.

Go stand in the corner, Nancy. Since you're an imbecile of the worst order, you don't have the wherewithal to get behind any rostrum.

Exactly.  Obama , by law and the US Constitution should have to pay current debts of the US with any monies available, not initiate new spending.

It has been pointed out repeatedly that there is sufficient tax revenues to pay our current debt, just no additional spending like the DemonRats want.

[DefiantSix]

The stupid bitch utterly fails to understand the 14th Amendment.

That clause has to do with CURRENT debt -- not FUTURE debt.

Go stand in the corner, Nancy. Since you're an imbecile of the worst order, you don't have the wherewithal to get behind any rostrum.

And how - exactly - is this latest demonstration of "constitutional scholarship" different from the usual usage of the "Commerce clause" in the PREAMBLE to COTUS?


Not that I'm in support of either of these interpretations, mind you, but they've been twisting the COTUS into a broom handle to bugger us with for so long now that I have difficulty pointing to any usage of the Constitution by a modern politician that ISN'T as egregious as this is.

[Eupher]

And how - exactly - is this latest demonstration of "constitutional scholarship" different from the usual usage of the "Commerce clause" in the PREAMBLE to COTUS?


Not that I'm in support of either of these interpretations, mind you, but they've been twisting the COTUS into a broom handle to bugger us with for so long now that I have difficulty pointing to any usage of the Constitution by a modern politician that ISN'T as egregious as this is.

Actually, what's surprising isn't the claim at all -- we're all pretty much used to Pelousy's bullshit.

What's surprising is that she isn't being laughed out of the room.

[17 Oaks]

I would not let NanCee Peloski manage her own bowel movements...how she became speaker of the house is beyond my comprehension...

[md11hydmec]

and the republicans will bend over and take it because no one pays attention to lies spewed by the dems.

[17 Oaks]

and the republicans will bend over and take it because no one pays attention to lies spewed by the dems.

On a cold, sleeting night in Dec of 1968 I stepped off a plane at SEATAC Airport, while the weather was shocking to a soldier in Jungle Fatigues what was more shocking was the greeting and my first exposure to liberals.  In short they blamed me, some ole Texas cowboy for a war I got drafted in to.  I certainly did not understand nor comprehend why I was at fault nor their behavior towards me and my fellow soldiers.

For me it was quite puzzling and a short time later I was standing on a college campus in Dallas Tex with folks asking me if I was going to the protest that afternoon.  What it triggered was an intense interest in something I had never had...the body politic!

I learned then and after nearly 50 years of engaging liberals a few things about them:

1)  Liberal = Lie  Given the choice between truth and a lie, they will pick the lie every time

2)  'do as I say, not as I do'  Hypocrites of the highest order

3)  Bigot  Thy OWN it

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

She couldn't care less what it means.

There is only power to be had.

They believe they have a mandate to do away with the Republic and create whatever they want.

[DumbAss Tanker]

She is an idiot, but the truth at the core of what she is trying to parrot, after someone who actually understood it primed her, is that the debt ceiling is actually not a rational thing; it is CONGRESS which has both the taxing and spending powers, the Executive Branch is simply responsible for executing it.  In a logical sense, how can Congress itself authorize and direct spending, then balk at the Executive's execution of it without revisiting their own appropriation and authorization acts?  It's a conundrum.