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Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
« on: January 04, 2013, 07:27:26 AM »
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Democrats pull plug on gun, ammo bans

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Source: Quad-City Times

SPRINGFIELD — There’s not enough support in the Illinois Senate to impose tough new restrictions on semiautomatic weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips.

In a setback for gun-control advocates in the wake of the killings of school children in Connecticut, the Illinois Senate was poised to adjourn Thursday without voting on two pieces of legislation aimed at limiting access to certain kinds of weapons and bullets.

Although the two proposals could emerge again when the legislature reconvenes next week, the lack of action shows the General Assembly remains divided on how to balance Second Amendment issues.

A spokeswoman for Senate President John Cullerton, D-Chicago, offered no timetable for when the gun safety proposals might surface again.

Read more: http://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/illinois/democrats-pull-plug-on-gun-ammo-bans/article_32f17fc4-55db-11e2-a7a7-001a4bcf887a.html


If this can't make it through the Illinois legislature, with a majority Democrats, why does anyone think we stand a chance of getting anything similar through the US House of Representatives?

Let's just pray this doesn't turn into 1994 all over again.

This proposed legislation was scary. It would have banned all modern weapons made in the last 150 years and all ammo.

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1. Kabuki Theater as government

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The Illini aren't quite as good at is as the leaders in San Francisco, but they're definitely professionals.

Long suspected mole.

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3. I guess gun cultists in Gungeon are dancing a jig in celebration.

That's racist.

I nominated Hoyt for a top ten DOTY. She's been banished from posting in the gungeon.

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4. Too bad you're not permitted to join in the festivities

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7. Much prefer to post with other anti-gun DUers and not deal with denizen of Gungeon.

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Proud to have been banned by pro-gun toting host, who allowed RDigital back in gun group only to see him banished. LMAO on that one. Say hello to those who can't venture out of their house without a gun in their pants. Ask them to actually act responsible during 2013 and stop adding more guns to the nation's weapons cache, and opposing rational gun laws that might not be to their gun loving liking.

Enjoy your lethal weapons and jig with your buddies. http://www.democraticunderground.com/117299682

If that's true, why did you post there instead of ignoring the forum?

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21. Not particularly.

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This sort of reactionary bullshit makes it harder to actually pass meaningful, impactful gun reform, like opening up NICS to public access, so people can do a background check for a private transfer, or registration that carries benefits, rather than penalties, so we can stem the flow of straw purchases and unlawful transfers.

You mistake some 'gungeoneers' as being entirely opposed to ANY regulation at all, and consequently, well, like the Illinois bill, results in nothing getting done.

Which leads to this:

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22. Right thus minute any "responsible" gun seller can use a licensed gun dealer for background

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check. But most private sellers don't give a crud who they sell to as long as they get a fistful of cash. The NICS should not be opened for abuse by public.

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29. Absolutely not true. You let them handle the transfer and pay a relatively small fee.

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But, gun sellers really aren't as law-abiding or moral is we are told.


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36. Then do it from FFL to another FFL if you really care about who gets your gun. Geeeez you guys

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have a million rationales for being an unethical/immoral/irresponsible gun owner.

I bet most of you are quite cozy with your local gun shop owner.

I know for a fact a number of Gugeoneers are gun profiteers with licenses, so get real and stop acting like son (arrested for road rage shooting) of NRA Prez David Keene.

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6. I'm telling ya, the only way for true anti gun regulation is a constitution convention.

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13. Yeah, that would be simple

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You'll need over 35 states to ratify a change to the US Constitution. Do you really think it would even be close to that at this point?

I do believe that we have 30 Republican Governors in office at the present.

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that means We the People cannot give them away.

Individuals for whom those rights are recognized as natural and inherent have compromised with Society by accepting limited infringement for the benefit of society but not infringement to the point of prohibition of an individual's right.

How did he ever manage to get 26K posts?



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Re: Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 08:03:53 AM »
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Democrats pull plug on gun, ammo bans

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Source: Quad-City Times

SPRINGFIELD — There’s not enough support in the Illinois Senate to impose tough new restrictions on semiautomatic weapons and high-capacity ammunition clips.


If this can't make it through the Illinois legislature, with a majority Democrats, why does anyone think we stand a chance of getting anything similar through the US House of Representatives?

A little light shines through!  Congratulations on your moment of clarity, DUmbass!  Better not let it last too long or you might just figure out how badly you're getting reamed by your president and his "tax cuts".
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Re: Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
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34. Democrats pull plug on gun, ammo bans

Leave the guns alone!!! Treat Mental Illness!
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Surprised it's still there.
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Re: Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 12:38:03 PM »
At least we agree that if they can't pass that in Nobamas so called home state then they will probably have littile chance in The Us house. Still doesn't mean anyone should stop watching them and keeping the pressure up.
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Re: Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 12:44:43 PM »
Quote from: Airwolf on January 04, 2013, 12:38:03 PM
At least we agree that if they can't pass that in Nobamas so called home state then they will probably have littile chance in The Us house. Still doesn't mean anyone should stop watching them and keeping the pressure up.

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Re: Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 03:56:16 PM »
Quote from: DefiantSix on January 04, 2013, 12:44:43 PM
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That may be what he tries.  I've got a feeling that one of the Republican Senators would put a 'hold' on it (the US Senate can do that, and the Senator who puts the 'hold' on remains anonymous), and it would go nowhere.  Maybe Ted Cruz, maybe Marco Rubio, maybe Tim Scott, maybe it wouldn't be a Republican at all, but a Dem from a heavily gun-owning state, that's up for re-election (Tim Johnson or Jon Tester come to mind).
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Re: Illinois gun and ammo ban is tabled as it can't find enough support
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 04:17:24 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on January 04, 2013, 03:56:16 PM
That may be what he tries.  I've got a feeling that one of the Republican Senators would put a 'hold' on it (the US Senate can do that, and the Senator who puts the 'hold' on remains anonymous), and it would go nowhere.  Maybe Ted Cruz, maybe Marco Rubio, maybe Tim Scott, maybe it wouldn't be a Republican at all, but a Dem from a heavily gun-owning state, that's up for re-election (Tim Johnson or Jon Tester come to mind).

I think that it was Tester that initiated the letter, that was signed by several pro gun democrats and sent to obama 3 years ago that said no new gun control laws.
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