Legislation creating "same-sex" marriage: What's at stake?

[MrsSmith]

Legislation creating "same-sex" marriage: What's at stake?

At the beginning of the New Year, 2013, a law is being proposed in the General Assembly to change the legal definition of marriage in Illinois to accommodate those of the same sex who wish to “marry” one another.  In this discussion, the Church will be portrayed as “anti-gay,” which is a difficult position to be in, particularly when families and the Church herself love those of their members who are same-sex oriented.  What’s at stake in this legislative proposal and in the Church’s teaching on marriage?

Basically, the nature of marriage is not a religious question.  Marriage comes to us from nature.  Christ sanctifies marriage as a sacrament for the baptized, giving it significance beyond its natural reality; the State protects marriage because it is essential to family and to the common good of society.  But neither Church nor State invented marriage, and neither can change its nature.

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Sexual relations between a man and a woman are naturally and necessarily different from sexual relations between same-sex partners.  This truth is part of the common sense of the human race.  It was true before the existence of either Church or State, and it will continue to be true when there is no State of Illinois and no United States of America.  A proposal to change this truth about marriage in civil law is less a threat to religion than it is an affront to human reason and the common good of society.  It means we are all to pretend to accept something we know is physically impossible.  The Legislature might just as well repeal the law of gravity.

What is, then, at stake in this proposed legislation?  What is certainly at stake is the natural relationship between parents and children.

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As well, those who know the difference between marriage and same-sex arrangements will be regarded as bigots. This is where the religious question does come into play.  Including “religious freedom” in the title of the proposed law recognizes that religious teaching based on natural truths will now be considered evidence of illegal discrimination and will be punishable by law.

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But if there is no pre-ordained duality of man and women in creation, then neither is the family any longer a reality established by creation.  Likewise, the child has lost the place he had occupied hitherto and the dignity pertaining to him.  Rabbi Bernheim shows that now, perforce, from being a subject of right, the child has become an object to which people have a right and which they have a right to obtain. 

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http://www.catholicnewworld.com/cnwonline/2013/0106/cardinal.aspx

I am not Catholic, but agree with the points made.

[vesta111]

I am not Catholic, but agree with the points made.

Very understandable MrsSmith.

This is something that goes back to survival of the species in both man and animal, long time ago man had no idea that sex led to baby's and animals still have not figured that out.

Reason no 1. I do not believe children should be raised with Gay parents.

Kids learn from their family's how to act and how to think.  Some times Adopted kids resemble their parents more then natural born children do.    They take on the gestures of the parents, how they walk and facial expressions, hand gestures etc.  Looking at family pix it is difficult to pick out the Adopted child from biological kids, unless they come from another race.

Kids grow up in the society their parents have as friends, if a Gay couple has only Gay friends the kids except this in normal.   If kids grow up around druggies, that is normal to them.

This is a personal problem for me, I baby sat a 6 year old boy being raised by a lesbian couple that scared the life out of me.  Very few of his parents friends were straight and the child at that age was a mess. 

Most all parents want their children to grow up with their values and life style. We take our children to Church--don't just send them, and kids grow to know if a parent has no faith, nither will they.  Kids need the influence of both male and female parents to understand the world.

Still bothers me today on how this boy turned out.

 I was raised around strong men with strong woman to counter balance each other.  The men taught me to fish and hunt and the woman how to cook, sew and clean house. 

I cannot imagine being raised around all woman or all men.