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DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« on: January 02, 2013, 06:44:47 PM »
DUmmies are starting to feel uneasy about their messiah's gift:
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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:10 PM
nobodyspecial (1,656 posts)

A growing problem: Employers screwing workers and blaming it on Obamacare.

During the holidays, I heard several tales of hours cut or premiums increased and this was attributed to Obamacare. For example, my friend's employer changed the entire retiree benefit structure and substantially increased the amount workers pay toward the premium. And it was all blamed on Obamacare, which it seemed all the employees believed.

Have you encountered this among people you talk to? How can we counteract it on a larger scale?

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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:12 PM
Panasonic (2,871 posts)
1. Call bullshit on them.

Ask the employers how Obamacare hurts employers - it is supposed to HELP the employers...

Idjits.

 

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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:14 PM
Jackpine Radical (35,496 posts)
2. The way you counter any of this stuff-via social media,

email chains, etc.

The conventional media aren't gonna do it for us.

Places like this, Truthout, Reader Supported News, etc. are great for getting the word out to the plugged-in, and the plugged-in need to do the last mile of distribution themselves via the places frequented by the lower-information types. Fb, Twitter, whatever.  

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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:15 PM
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4. i'd ask what the overall premium is

and compare it from year to year.

if the employer and employee share increase at the same rate, they may have a point --to be blamed on the insurance companies.

if not, then there may be cost shifting which is really a savings for the employer.



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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 07:34 PM
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5. These companies have been trying to figure out

how to cut off employee bennies and let the people fend for theirselves. The penalty fee for not covering is substantially less than the amount they have to pay towards medical coverage.

It's lies about the program to pad the CEO's little pocket and become more unaccountable to actual people.  

Oh, no! DUmmies have to fend for "theirselves".
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Re: DUmmieis Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2013, 06:55:01 PM »
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Panasonic (2,871 posts)
1. Call bullshit on them.

Ask the employers how Obamacare hurts employers - it is supposed to HELP the employers...

Idjits.

WTF?  It was never supposed to help employers. We told you and warned you.  Now

OWN IT!
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 07:13:09 PM »
Not to worry, the GOP will do whatever they can to take responsibility and turn Obamacare into a shared liability. Sorry, but I am  :rant: pissed.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 08:46:24 PM »
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5. These companies have been trying to figure out

how to cut off employee bennies and let the people fend for theirselves. The penalty fee for not covering is substantially less than the amount they have to pay towards medical coverage.

It's lies about the program to pad the CEO's little pocket and become more unaccountable to actual people. 

DU:  What??? But it's supposed to HELP people...   :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:


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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 08:52:57 PM »
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glowing (10,923 posts)
5. These companies have been trying to figure out

how to cut off employee bennies and let the people fend for theirselves. The penalty fee for not covering is substantially less than the amount they have to pay towards medical coverage.

It's lies about the program to pad the CEO's little pocket and become more unaccountable to actual people.

This is exactly what your party wants you idiots... so that everyone will eventually be on 0bamacare.  I mean what do you think and employer is going to do pay $7,000 a year or the $2,000 penalty.  Any smart business person trying to maximize profits is going to do that and the demorats know that.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 08:55:47 PM »
Quote from: Maxiest on January 02, 2013, 08:52:57 PM
This is exactly what your party wants you idiots... so that everyone will eventually be on 0bamacare.  I mean what do you think and employer is going to do pay $7,000 a year or the $2,000 penalty.  Any smart business person trying to maximize profits is going to do that and the demorats know that.

The funny part is, the DUmmies who think they are so damn smart can't figure out that 0bama is giving them what they want, only it won't be overnight it is going to take time for health care to be so ****ed that the masses demand that the same government fix the problem they created and the masses will be happy to sign on to government controlled and payed for health care. By the time they realize the death panels are coming for them it will be too late.

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 08:58:51 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on January 02, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
By the time they realize the death panels are coming for them it will be too late.

And in most circumstances, they will be among the first to be greeted with said panels.-So many of them live such unhealthy lifestyles that no government agency is going to want to pay to keep them alive so they can pay them more in all sorts of unemployment/disaibility compensation.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2013, 09:41:09 PM »
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How can we counteract it on a larger scale?

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 09:48:59 PM »
Quote from: Delmar on January 02, 2013, 09:41:09 PM
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 09:49:38 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on January 02, 2013, 09:48:59 PM
Not One Damn Dime Day!
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 08:12:37 AM »
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Places like this, Truthout, Reader Supported News, etc. are great for getting the word out

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12. My husbands company

has already said they wont be able to afford to offer health insurance by 2016. They are a serious RW scumbag outfit that bought out the company he has been working for, for 20 years. They also said "we would never tell you who to vote for BUT of Obama gets re-elected we just dont know WHAT will happen and what we will be FORCED to do" douchebags!

Calling a company names at the DUmp fixes nothing.  You still OWN IT.


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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 09:09:08 AM »
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Wed Jan 2, 2013, 08:04 PM
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12. My husbands company

has already said they wont be able to afford to offer health insurance by 2016. They are a serious RW scumbag outfit that bought out the company he has been working for, for 20 years. They also said "we would never tell you who to vote for BUT of Obama gets re-elected we just dont know WHAT will happen and what we will be FORCED to do" douchebags!

Damn, DUmmie, they told you what was going to happen and you still voted for the stupid **** anyway?  That makes you a special kind of DUmb, doesn't it?

Welcome to the America you have always wanted, one that you helped create.  You finally got your wish - everyone will now be as miserable as you.

You wanted it, you got it, you now

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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 09:19:56 AM »
For the DUmmies.....just put thumb and middle finger together to form a circle and chant....O...BOMB....ER__________O....BOMB....ER______O....BOMB.....ER

0r just leave your thumb stuck up your ass and use it as a place holder for your head.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 09:57:26 AM »
Amazing... and amusing. They are upset because they got exactly what they voted for and what is happening is exactly what they were told was going to happen. Buried their heads in the sand, believed the lies their democrat leaders told them and now they are shocked to find out that everything is happening as predicted.
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2013, 12:31:37 PM »
I don't understand the issue. It's FREE, right, DUmmies?
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
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Re: DUmmies Discuss The Glorious Benefits of 0bamacare
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2013, 12:49:58 PM »
How about you DUmmies own it!
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