Unterprimitiven DUmmy Spins The Worst Anti-Gun Bouncy Ever

[GOBUCKS]

Anyone who hunts will appreciate what an incredibly uninformed bouncy tale this one is.

The thought of these words coming from someone who actually hunts is mind boggling.

It's sad that a lot of people can think that real people could talk this way.

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:05 PM
slampoet (5,024 posts)

I talked to 11 hunters yesterday and none of them said they needed a semi-auto or even a third shot.

I had a family reunion and I have a lot of uncles and cousins who hunt and hunt together every year. I dropped out of hunting 20 years ago after I got 2 grouse with two shots and figured I'd quit while I had a perfect record of never missing.
But there are photos of my relatives with 30-40 birds piled on the front of their cars and a few of my cousins got their first deer before they learned to drive.

You would think given the NRA's portrayal of hunters that these men would all be gun nuts....

Well nothing could be further from the truth. NONE of the ten men or one youth are NRA members, even the four of them who served in the military.

Every single one of them said that for hunting birds there is no need for anything other than a double barrel shotgun, or if you can't afford one, a pump action shotgun. They also said that only ONCE did someone hit three birds with three shots and that was with a Double barrel shotgun and fast reloading skills, not a semi-auto. Of the ones who hunt deer they said that NEVER has a single one of them ever hit anything with the third shot ever and this is over a period of 45 years and involving at least a 60 different hunters over that time.

Almost every one of the deer hunters used a single shot rifle, a pump slug gun, or a bow.

The fact is that any gun that fires more than three shots is for killing targets that don't run from the sound of gunfire.

In other words if you fire more than three shots you are wasting ammo, endangering people around you, polluting the soil against the next year's crop of game, and importantly you are scarring away any future game that day with the extra noise.

I still remember one of my uncles nearly crying and cursing himself, because he shot a pheasant when he thought it was a different bird. Even though pheasants were legal to shoot he explained to me that they were too rare around this area to kill even if the Gaming Commission didn't forbid it. He said, "I really wish we could just stun these birds with rubber shot or something. It's not like when i was a kid and our family needed the meat. Besides you are the only chef in the family good enough to make any of these birds taste better than a turkey from the store. i want you to take a good look at this dead pheasant because it will be the last one you ever see on this land living or otherwise."

I wonder if hunters like my family are the norm and are drowned out by all the NRA crap.I guess that is too bad because the hunters of my family are the kind of people other hunters should aspire to be.

 
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022066371
Stun them with rubber shot!! One of the great bouncy ideas ever!

Like all DUmmies, when this DUmpmonkey formulated his bouncy he continued to confuse the concept of "need" vs. "right".

I am not required to demonstrate a "need" before I can exercise a "right". DUmmies will never understand that. 

Response to slampoet (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:23 PM
JohnnyBoots (2,750 posts)
7. What does hunting have to do

With Second Amendment?

Response to JohnnyBoots (Reply #7)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:26 PM
slampoet (5,024 posts)
10. I am saying that every one of these hunters didn't have a problem with more restrictions.

Even the three that live in Detroit.

It is attempting to prove the point you are trying to make. More restrictions don't affect responsible hunters in the least.

Response to slampoet (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 03:37 PM
ProgressiveProfessor (19,811 posts)
13. Those are fair comments for upland bird hunters

Though I know many who use semi automatic shotguns of the 1100 family with a magazine block.

That's called a "plug" DUmmy. It's required for pump-action as well, for migratory game birds.

A few states may require it for upland game birds, but not many.

Response to slampoet (Original post)
Mon Dec 24, 2012, 04:02 PM
Paladin (7,464 posts)
19. Most Present-Day Gun Activists Don't Like Hunting.

There is open scorn aimed at hunters by gun activists (including the insulting term "fudd"), along with repeated statements that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. The sort of firearms which gun activists like---semi-auto pistols and military-styled semi-auto rifles---are not designed for sporting purposes, they're designed to kill human beings.

The RKBA does not relate to hunting, or self protection, or target shooting, or collecting, or any other activity.

It's a constitutional right that's not dependent on any particular use. Does freedom of speech only pertain to burning a flag? 

[BlueStateSaint]

At the camp that I belong to, most of the guys (say, eight of twelve) use semiauto rifles.  There's one Ruger Deerfield (old-style, with the tube magazine) .44 Magnum, and the rest of them use Remington 740s, 742s, or 7400s in either .30-06 or .308 Winchester.  Two of the other four use Remington 760s, which (for those who aren't well-versed in weapons) are pump-action rifles, but one sometimes carries a Remington Model Four (top-of-the-line semiauto) from time to time.  One of the last two uses a Savage Model 99 in .300 Savage, and I go back-and-forth between a Winchester 94 lever-action (.30-30 Winchester), and a Remington Model Seven bolt-action in .308 Winchester.

Semiautos are widely used in the Northern Zone of NY for hunting.  DUmb****s need to know this.  They don't load themselves up and decide to knock off local bodegas; the people (yes, because some women use them for hunting, too) who use them are generally responsible, safe people.  They're mechanically identical to civilian ARs and AKs.

[LC EFA]

I've encountered mobs of pigs several hundred strong where a belt-fed machine gun would have been mighty handy.

Granted - that's vermin control not hunting for meat.

[Traveshamockery]

These "gun owners" are probably the same people who say they would be honored to pay more in taxes.

Anything dear leader wants.........................

 

[jukin]

That is the biggest steaming pile of Yule Logs I have ever read.

[USA4ME]

slampoet

In other words if you fire more than three shots you are wasting ammo, endangering people around you, polluting the soil against the next year's crop of game, and importantly you are scarring away any future game that day with the extra noise.

Half the fun of hunting is going out and bustin' shells.

Just stay home, primitive.  No real hunter believes your non-sense anyway.

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[thundley4]

The fact is that any gun that fires more than three shots is for killing targets that don't run from the sound of gunfire.

Or for killing targets that may intend harm to you or your family.  Thugs don't always travel solo or just in pairs, like true cowardly Obamaites, they travel in packs.   That provides the necessity for high capacity magazines.

[Jasonw560]

As a hunter, let me say this guy is full of BS as we all know.

How I know for sure is the dude's uncle proclaiming that store bought turkey tastes better than fresh pheasant.

[Tucker]

[I_B_Perky]

The dummie probably couldn't even load a shotgun, let alone hit a bird with it... and if he did manage to load it he'd probably shoot himself or someone else.

I never got into bird hunting. Pa Perky and Brother Perky liked it. About the only bird hunting I ever did was nailing crows around the garden.  I did like to shoot skeet though back when I was younger. Brother Perky was quite good at it. Me? Not so much. Still liked it though.

[LC EFA]

The dummie probably couldn't even load a shotgun, let alone hit a bird with it... and if he did manage to load it he'd probably shoot himself or someone else.

I never got into bird hunting. Pa Perky and Brother Perky liked it. About the only bird hunting I ever did was nailing crows around the garden.  I did like to shoot skeet though back when I was younger. Brother Perky was quite good at it. Me? Not so much. Still liked it though.

Only "bird hunting" I do is on a friends fish farm - and that's purely for the purpose of vermin control.

When the cloud comes over I'd love to have more than 4 shots available without reloading.

[Jasonw560]

Only "bird hunting" I do is on a friends fish farm - and that's purely for the purpose of vermin control.

When the cloud comes over I'd love to have more than 4 shots available without reloading.

White wing (or mourning) dove, on the grill, wrapped with bacon, side of grilled veggies....nothing better.

[I_B_Perky]

White wing (or mourning) dove, on the grill, wrapped with bacon, side of grilled veggies....nothing better.

Porterhouse steak on a woodfired grill, side of taters and salad.... nothing better.   


 

[Tucker]

Porterhouse steak on a woodfired grill, side of taters and salad.... nothing better.   


 

You got my vote.

[Jasonw560]

Porterhouse steak on a woodfired grill, side of taters and salad.... nothing better.   


 

Did you kill the cow yourself?

[I_B_Perky]

Only "bird hunting" I do is on a friends fish farm - and that's purely for the purpose of vermin control.

When the cloud comes over I'd love to have more than 4 shots available without reloading.

I can understand it. Many times nailing crow I wished I had more. Course I ain't no great shot either.   

[I_B_Perky]

Did you kill the cow yourself?

I have just not by myself. Grandad was a farmer. Spent every summer out there until I was 16.

[vesta111]

As a hunter, let me say this guy is full of BS as we all know.

How I know for sure is the dude's uncle proclaiming that store bought turkey tastes better than fresh pheasant.

Safer to feed store bought turkey then fresh killed Pheasant to the kids.   I broke a tooth on the darn shot hiding in the meat as a kid.

[Skul]

Safer to feed store bought turkey then fresh killed Pheasant to the kids.   I broke a tooth on the darn shot hiding in the meat as a kid.

Clean the bird before cooking.

[NHSparky]

At least vesta wasn't a guy--end up jerking off and shooting the dog.

[98ZJUSMC]

I still remember one of my uncles nearly crying and cursing himself, because he shot a pheasant when he thought it was a different bird. Even though pheasants were legal to shoot he explained to me that they were too rare around this area to kill even if the Gaming Commission didn't forbid it. He said, "I really wish we could just stun these birds with rubber shot or something. It's not like when i was a kid and our family needed the meat. Besides you are the only chef in the family good enough to make any of these birds taste better than a turkey from the store. i want you to take a good look at this dead pheasant because it will be the last one you ever see on this land living or otherwise." 

What.

a load.

of crap.

  Besides you are the only chef in the family good enough to make any of these birds taste better than a turkey from the store.

Oh, pleeeze......

[NHSparky]

Keep it up, DUmmies--in this Oconomy, in a couple of years, you WILL need to hunt to survive.

Then again, won't be the first time for me.  I remember hunting for our meat (deer, sage hen, grouse, pheasant, to supplement the occasional cow/pig we went in on and helped raise/butcher/package.)  Seems to me that was right in the middle of the Carter years.

Coincidence?

[98ZJUSMC]

...and people wonder why we say we are screwed.  The stupid just cannot be contained.

[GOBUCKS]

Besides you are the only chef in the family good enough to make any of these birds taste better than a turkey from the store.

I love wild game, and have five deer in my freezer right now.

In my experience it's a rare feat to make wild birds acceptable for the table, and in the case of some like diving ducks, it's impossible.

I've had very good wild turkey, dove breasts, and quail. I've had grain-eating puddle ducks like mallards or black ducks that were acceptable.

Canada geese can be prepared to be quite good. Diving ducks like bluebills, ringnecks, redheads, canvasbacks, eat little fish and the muck on the bottom of ponds. They taste strongly like the muck on the bottom of ponds. Awful.

Unfortunately, divers are the best gamebirds. They decoy well, fly really fast, and are just great gamebirds.

In no case have I experienced any wild bird come even close to a domestic turkey as table fare.

[JohnnyReb]

In my experience it's a rare feat to make wild birds acceptable for the table, and in the case of some like diving ducks, it's impossible.

When I was 10 to 12 years old, there was an old single duck on my uncles pond all winter, every winter. It was called a "die-dapper" by local folks. I used to see him on the pond when I past on the school bus. I'd run in the house and get the old 12 ga. double barrel "hammer" gun and high tail it back to my uncles pond and try to shoot him. I'd shoot and he'd dive under the water before the shot got there. This went on for 3 or 4 years. I must have put a ton of lead in my uncles pond. My dad would curse and tell me, "You can't kill the damn thing and if you did, he ain't fit to eat". Well, at 14 or 15 years old, I bought myself a good "hammerless" double barrel that I could shoot high brass shells in......it was on then boy. One day when no one was home, I finally got that old die-dapper. I tried to pull the feathers out and couldn't so I tried pliers.....no good, so I just skinned him. I threw him in a pot of water and started boiling him, added some rice and was, at least in my opinion, well on my way to fix'n supper when he began to stinky up the place. Momma came home first and wanted to know what in the world I was doing......but before I could explain to her  what I
was doing daddy came. This was the man that couldn't smell.....well, nothing....even he wanted to know what that god awful smell was. Daddy threw me and my duck out of the house along with a good cussing and a remainder that, "I done told you can't ear them G** D**** $#@^%* (*&$^#@ things".....

The house smelled like a stirred up low country swamp for 2 or 3 weeks after that.....and I have never had the urge to try to cook and eat duck since then.