Author Topic: More "riffle" facts from Nads  (Read 3998 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline marv

  • In Memoriam
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2194
  • Reputation: +124/-28
  • Resident Grandpa
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2012, 01:29:37 PM »
A .308 (7.62 NATO, the round the M-14 uses) is vastly more destructive [than a .223]..

The .223 begins to tumble when it impacts creating a small entrance wound, but terrible internal damage. The 7.92×57mm and 8mm Mauser cartridges, American .30'06, British .303, and  NATO .308 leave large entrance and exit wounds, but don't do the internal damage that the .223 does.

That's one reason why the Russians switched from the (AK-47) 7.62×39mm round to the (AK-74) 5.45×39mm cartridge. It's all about ballistics and bullet design - of which the bald dwarff knows nothing.

What you don't really want is to be hit in the arm or leg with a round from a .58 calibre 1863 Springfield riffle. The only cure is the surgeon's saw.

Damn that sticking 'ff' key
« Last Edit: December 20, 2012, 01:37:29 PM by marv »
FOUR BOXES KEEP US FREE: THE SOAP BOX, THE BALLOT BOX, THE JURY BOX, AND THE CARTRIDGE BOX.

THIS POST WILL BE MONITORED BY THE NSA

Offline Charles Henrickson

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 924
  • Reputation: +633/-5
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2012, 01:49:55 PM »
Quote from: Know-it-all Nadin
So stop preaching. Christianne Ammampour mentioned she saw them in Bosnia. And in other places around the word.
 
Let me tell you something, the worst massacre I had the pleasure of tending to, was only five. It was still a war zone. So damn it, yes, I can picture the pools of blood, the coppery smell, the human waste they found, and the destroyed bodies. I can see them in my mind's eye. So please, those f you arguing but, but it s the most popular riffle. . . .

Christianne Ammampour has been around the word. Nadin Brzezinski doesn't even come close to the word.

Quote from: A HERETIC I AM
3. Will you please, PLEASE stop spelling the word as "riffle"

The weapon is a "RIFLE" with one "F".

Riffle rhymes with piffle and sniffle.

Rifle rhymes with stifle and pie full.

You have been doing that a lot lately. It's getting annoying.

Oh, come on. It's just a triffling error.

Quote from: A HERETIC I AM
Nadine offers her expertise on a wide variety of subjects. It does nothing for her credibility to CONTINUOUSLY misspell the word "rifle" , particularly whe she is attempting to speak with some authority.

"NadinE"?? He who is without speling errors, let him cast the first scone.

Quote from: Know-it-all Nadin
10. Having an issue with spelling

Oh my.

"Oh my"?? Nadin pulls a frank.

Quote from: Know-it-all Nadin
It takes away from the credibility? To point out what they do if the word of the precious is misspelled? You do know there is this thing called dyslexia right?
 
Oh and won't call you on the misspelling on your post about my name...I consider spelling calls impolite...to put it mildly, since you or I really do not know if that is lack of knowledge (how my name is spelled) or an actual disability.
 
What you alluded to is the misspelling that increases with stress among mild dyslexics.

Nadin has a mild case of dylsexia.
 
Quote from: Know-it-all Nadin
Congrats for being petty.

Don't worry, my actual submitted work is spell checked and it s edited. A three in the morning piece, while waiting for husband, after watching Piers Morgan call gun nutters liars on national tv, not so much.

It's late. Nidan is waiting for her hubby to come home, lying there on the divan, clad in her skimpy négliggée, cradling her minni-riffle--and you criticize her for her spelling??

Actual photo:



Quote from: Nadin Fanboy zappaman
13. Actually, what takes away from your credibility is not only the fact you can't spell

but also the padding of your resume...
"Been in enough shoot outs to fill nightmares."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1996780

and the fact you can't do simple math.
"six rounds a second...100 minute"

you are a joke.

And you are a bully! To the igy list with you!
« Last Edit: December 20, 2012, 01:52:18 PM by Charles Henrickson »
Co-host (with PJ-Comix) of the DUmmie FUnnies, both on Free Republic and at the DUmmie FUnnies' own blogspot.

Offline ChuckJ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4796
  • Reputation: +534/-37
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2012, 01:55:14 PM »
So now she has dyslexia?

I know that dyslexia causes problems with reading, but I didn't know that dyslexia causes you to press the 'f' key twice instead of once.

Is odd that she can spell 'dyslexia' correctly?
“Don’t vote for the person who tells you you deserve something. Just don’t do it if it’s something other than life, liberty, or the pursuit of possible happiness. If everyone is telling you you deserve something, vote for the one who is promising you the least. Be suspicious of the man or woman who tell you deserve everything. Because you don’t.” ---Mike Rowe

Offline franksolich

  • Scourge of the Primitives
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 58722
  • Reputation: +3102/-173
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2012, 01:57:46 PM »

Actually, Charles, I think there's something else going on here.

I remember it from when the oblate spheroid constantly misspelled "rabbis," surely a word she knows better than most of us.

I think the oblate spheroid is convinced her way of spelling is the way words are supposed to be spelled, so damn it, she's going to keep spelling them her way until the rest of us get with the program and do it too.

Her God complex, you know.....
apres moi, le deluge

Milo Yiannopoulos "It has been obvious since 2016 that Trump carries an anointing of some kind. My American friends, are you so blind to reason, and deaf to Heaven? Can he do all this, and cannot get a crown? This man is your King. Coronate him, and watch every devil shriek, and every demon howl."

Offline Charles Henrickson

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 924
  • Reputation: +633/-5
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2012, 01:58:33 PM »
Yes, Nadin has dysmexia. If you'd been in the bloodbaths and shootouts she's been in, you'd have it to.
Co-host (with PJ-Comix) of the DUmmie FUnnies, both on Free Republic and at the DUmmie FUnnies' own blogspot.

Offline jukin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16232
  • Reputation: +2116/-170
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2012, 02:13:31 PM »
Quote
Mad minute was a pre-World War I term used by British riflemen during training to describe scoring 15 hits onto a 12" round target at 300 yd (274.3 m) within one minute using a bolt-action rifle (usually a Lee-Enfield or Lee-Metford rifle). It was not uncommon during the First World War for riflemen to greatly exceed this score. Many riflemen could average 30+ shots, while the record, set in 1914 by Sergeant Instructor Alfred Snoxall was 38 hits.[1] It was rumored that a company of assaulting German soldiers reported that they had faced machine gun fire, while in fact it was a rifle squad of ten men firing at this rate. Annually, a group of British owners meet for a mad minute competition.

Thanks Fiddy. Because of my disgust with wiki on political grounds I forget to look at it on all other subjects.
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

Offline GOBUCKS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24186
  • Reputation: +1812/-339
  • All in all, not bad, not bad at all
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2012, 02:28:47 PM »
The .223 begins to tumble when it impacts creating a small entrance wound, but terrible internal damage. The 7.92×57mm and 8mm Mauser cartridges, American .30'06, British .303, and  NATO .308 leave large entrance and exit wounds, but don't do the internal damage that the .223 does.

That's one reason why the Russians switched from the (AK-47) 7.62×39mm round to the (AK-74) 5.45×39mm cartridge. It's all about ballistics and bullet design - of which the bald dwarff knows nothing.

What you don't really want is to be hit in the arm or leg with a round from a .58 calibre 1863 Springfield riffle. The only cure is the surgeon's saw.

Damn that sticking 'ff' key
I think that's a characteristic of FMJ bullets, not unique to .223. They lose stability on impact, which means tumbling or deflection.

The .30-06 fires a bullet of nearly three times the weight at 90% of the velocity. It's far more powerful and deadly at far greatere range.

 

Offline GOBUCKS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 24186
  • Reputation: +1812/-339
  • All in all, not bad, not bad at all
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2012, 02:40:26 PM »
I wonder in any of the DUmpmonkeys are interested in this.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm

Offline thundley4

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 40571
  • Reputation: +2224/-127
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2012, 04:42:12 PM »
I wonder in any of the DUmpmonkeys are interested in this.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm

Quote
Black victims are over represented in homicides involving drugs. Compared with the overall involvement of blacks as victims, blacks are less often the victims of sex-related homicides, workplace killings, and homicide by poison.


Well, duh!    :fuelfire:

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1710/-151
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2012, 05:08:22 PM »
I haven't checked ballistics tables, but .303 British is not as powerful a round as a .30-06.

I've always thought of it as more like .308 Win., and maybe a hair less.

I may nadin the ballistics later.

The .303 is only slightly less powerful, but in the same class...however the military loadings of .30-06 and .308 are ballistically identical, the bullet is exactly the same weight (Exactly the same in every other way for that matter in the ball loading), the only difference is that the .308 (Nowadays known as the 7.62x51 or 7.62 NATO in the military version) used more modern propellants at higher pressures to achieve the exact same muzzle velocity as .30 M2 Ball, the whole purpose of the round being to get the case as much shorter as possible by applying 40 years worth of development in propellant technology to the problem.  That was really the whole reason the .308 round was developed around the end of WW2. 

The '06 was about the longest standard military cartridge in use in the world and nothing in use in other countries with other standard calibers could be converted to '06 easily and with sufficient reliability for military purposes.  Army Ordnance experimented with the MG42 converted to '06 during the War, but it didn't work worth crap due to the longer '06 cartridge, and so they turned their backs on the gun.  In other countries, however the MG42 with only about three significantly modified parts (Feed tray, pawl, and .308/7.62 barrel) became the MG1/MG3, and had a long record of successful service (Still going on, in fact).  Of course we had hungry engineers and ordnance officers to feed, so we didn't go with that solution but instead developed the M60 (Incorporating the MG42 feed system and the FG42 gas system) shortly before Viet Nam and the horrifyingly-unreliable and complex M73/M219 MGs, the latter of which won an exceptionally-crooked shoot-off competitions managed by the same Ordnance Corps pukes who were going to be making them over better weapons like the MAG and MG1/3 (An eyewitness described what went down to me, all I can say is it's a case study of what happens when you have a government-run enterprise as a competitor with private industry, and the same government entity that made its entry is judging the competition).

The M60 proved only moderately reliable but complex and expensive to make (Somewhat complex to reassemble when fully stripped, and prone to have an important part fall off as well), and finally lost an honest shoot-off to the M240 when there was a competition for a new AFV MG to replace the M219s in the late 70s, the 219s having been the bane of tank gunners since their adoption, and after-action analysis from Viet Nam finally providing the catalyst to dump the damned pieces of crap.  A vehicle-mount configured FN MAG proved to have only 1/3 the MTBF of a similarly-configured M60, and so it became the M240, simple and reliable (Still not as quick to change a barrel on as an MG42/1/3/53, but a bit better at long range since it is gas operated rather than short recoil operated, yielding a more rigid sight plane).  A decade later the rest of the M60s went away with the adoption of the M240B, the infantry/GPMG-configured FN MAG (Heavier than the MG42/1/3/53, but at this point there was a parts commonality strength for it since the M240 tank coax was already in the system).
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline tanstaafl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1409
  • Reputation: +110/-22
  • I AM the NRA. And I VOTE
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2012, 05:26:13 PM »
6 rounds a second is actually 360 a minute  :whistling:

Not when you use Nadin Noodle Math.
Then 6 rounds a second equals 100 and 60 centimeters equals a meter.

Offline DumbAss Tanker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28493
  • Reputation: +1710/-151
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2012, 06:56:43 PM »
Not when you use Nadin Noodle Math.
Then 6 rounds a second equals 100 and 60 centimeters equals a meter.

Babylonian or Persian meters?
Go and tell the Spartans, O traveler passing by
That here, obedient to their law, we lie.

Anything worth shooting once is worth shooting at least twice.

Offline Jasonw560

  • Is a Juke Box
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2032
  • Reputation: +143/-42
  • PhD from Sarcastic State
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2012, 10:49:49 PM »
Babylonian or Persian meters?
Actually, I believe it is in early Mesopotamian meters.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle

"Metaphors needn't be explained to educated people"-Ted
Nugent

"Life ain't fair. Get over it or wear a helmet" -diesel driver

Offline Skul

  • Sometimes I drink water just to surprise my liver
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12475
  • Reputation: +914/-179
  • Chief of the cathouse
Re: More "riffle" facts from Nads
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2012, 11:21:03 PM »
GNads is the new meter-maid in town.

She is also uneducated in respect to "riffling" twist.
As I recall, the original m-16 had a 1/12 or 1/14 twist.
It's ability to stabilize the 50-55gr projectile was marginal.
I also seem to remember a version (A2?), that went to a 1/7 to fire the 72gr.
This is just memory, not teh google.
You guys that have first hand knowledge will have to get me set right.
Then-Chief Justice John Marshall observed, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.”

John Adams warned in a letter, “Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet, that did not commit suicide.”