Will there be one? (civil war)

[Gina]

Do you really feel deep in your heart we could have a "citizen vs gov't" type of civil war? 

If so, how will it start?  what will trigger it?
what will happen?

Please give me your best idea/summary. I am in awe of your minds folks!  I just see a powder keg just waiting to explode for real.  Has it ever been this way before in the US?

[CG6468]

If they try to take all of our firearms, there will certainly be an uprising.

[Maxiest]

There will be something I just don't know what.  And I don't think it will happen for awhile.  I say 50 years if we continue down our current path.

I wrote this post in another thread but it relates to your particular question.

Of course me and the old lady have been discussing a lot of politics since the election.  This is one point that we have discussed that goes along with your statement.  They will be the ones hurt in the end they are just to stupid to realize it.  Every time they want religious freedom suppressed, every time they want less competitiveness in school, every time they want stricter gun laws, every time they want something for free they lose freedom too.  They are just to ignorant to realize all the freedoms we have that they despise protect them too and they even enjoy most of them on a daily basis.

My fear is we will get to a point in this country where it is to late to go back, although I hope not, or their may be bloodshed.  These idiots will be crying because they can't surf the webpages they want to, go to the what every crazy religion they want to, send their kids to the school they want to, listen to the talk show host they want to, and so on.  We will be the ones armed, and I mean psychologically and physically, they will be the ones begging for our help.  Of course I hope it never comes to any of this, but it's not looking good so far.

[thundley4]

It won't happen until the government spends all of the Other People's Money and the moochers and takers are left to fend for themselves.

[CG6468]

There will be something I just don't know what.  And I don't think it will happen for awhile.  I say 50 years if we continue down our current path.

I wrote this post in another thread but it relates to your particular question.

It'll happen much sooner than in 50 years. At that point in time, it will be too late.

[Wineslob]

I doubt it. With our "15 minutes of fame" News, the outrage (current) will fade and spineless politicians will shrink from the issues other than to saber rattle until the next shiny object shows up.

[CG6468]

I doubt it. With our "15 minutes of fame" News, the outrage (current) will fade and spineless politicians will shrink from the issues other than to saber rattle until the next shiny object shows up.

Will our populace allow itself to be totally broken and our Constitution destroyed?

[DefiantSix]

Will our populace allow itself to be totally broken and our Constitution destroyed?

At least 51% haven't the slightest clue what's IN the constitution.  I saw a "Jay-walking" type poll where a majority of the folks interviewed thought the phrase, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" was in the COTUS. These DUmb****s will tear it in half and use it as crap wrapper because Dear Leader's regime told them to, and never even know what they're destroying.

[CG6468]

DS, you are probably correct, but there is a large percentage that will just not put up with this.

[DefiantSix]

DS, you are probably correct, but there is a large percentage that will just not put up with this.

Which means that, in all likelihood, this country will be torn asunder; and this time, the 19th century's civil war will probably look like a birthday party by comparison.

[CG6468]

Which means that, in all likelihood, this country will be torn asunder; and this time, the 19th century's civil war will probably look like a birthday party by comparison.

That is exactly what the king of the world wants. Then he could his private storm troopers.

[Wineslob]

Which means that, in all likelihood, this country will be torn asunder; and this time, the 19th century's civil war will probably look like a birthday party by comparison.

I'm of the mind to say "let it". I'm not near a major city, let it burn.

[CG6468]

I'm of the mind to say "let it". I'm not near a major city, let it burn.

I agree. Let 'em tear things down. Then let 'em try to come down my rural driveway.

[DefiantSix]

I'm of the mind to say "let it". I'm not near a major city, let it burn.

Yup.  My new state is busting it's collective tail to be self sufficient by the time the system is done being, "Cloward & Piven'ed".

[DumbAss Tanker]

Not over firearms, there will be a quiet defiance and complete lack of effort to enforce it (Partly out of defiance and partly out of self-preservation) in the vast majority of the US...like the NJ assault weapons ban in the 90s, there was no effort to round up any weapons, they just wrote an additional charge if they happened to find any on you or your property, if you were arrested or even if the cops came in to check on someone for innocent reasons.  Of course their 'Assault weapons' and 'gun' crime stats went up, a third of the violations after passage being simple possession.

The thing that WILL cause a shooting war is when the entitlement system finally breaks, we are years away from that although we are starting to circle the drain.  A lot of people will wish they had near-military weapons then, which is one of the reason Our Friends in Washington want to get rid of them now.  Any urban liberals who crop up out here in the scorned boondocks looking for refuge when that day comes will be barking up the wrong tree entirely.

[Airwolf]

Yes it will come and as DAT said when the moneys gone it will be like Greece and other parts of Europe. Those of us in the rural areas are safer but not much. Once  they fail to get stuff from pillaging in the city the smaller towns are next.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Always.

Welcome to planet Earth; it's filled with people.

[Rick]

Oh, I think declaring a unelected third term for life, will see a mass migration of heavily armed individuals toward DC.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Oh, I think declaring a unelected third term for life, will see a mass migration of heavily armed individuals toward DC.

Or a 401k/IRA grab.

Or a gun grab, especially if done by executive order.

Or a 9/11 type attack or sustained terror campaign without adequate retaliation.

Or arresting a GOP congressman on bullshit charges.

Or a sudden economic crash that depletes the EBT cards.

The list of sparks for the powder keg is short but Obama seems to be the sort who swerves into calamity like Ted Kennedy passing a river.

[JohnnyReb]

Obama and the democrats are laying the ground work for a war between the haves and the have nots......there will be a war but it won't be very "civil".

[Gina]

Yes it will come and as DAT said when the moneys gone it will be like Greece and other parts of Europe. Those of us in the rural areas are safer but not much. Once  they fail to get stuff from pillaging in the city the smaller towns are next.

I already have a game plan to go to my dad's cabin out in the middle of bumfluck.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Obama and the democrats are laying the ground work for a war between the haves and the have nots......there will be a war but it won't be very "civil".

Correction: It is a conflict between the Doers and Do-Nothings.

Looking at the sides we have the self-reliant, small business owners, vets, gun owners, families, people who seek strength, people who pray to overcome their personal shortcomings.



They have dependency, welfare recipients, OWieS and people who reject the lessons of military history, people who revel in claiming disability while convinced of their own intellectual and moral superiority.

[Gina]

Correction: It is a conflict between the Doers and Do-Nothings.

Looking at the sides we have the self-reliant, small business owners, vets, gun owners, families, people who seek strength, people who pray to overcome their personal shortcomings.



They have dependency, welfare recipients, OWieS and people who reject the lessons of military history, people who revel in claiming disability while convinced of their own intellectual and moral superiority.

I think I know who will win. 

[Ptarmigan]

Or a 401k/IRA grab.

Or a gun grab, especially if done by executive order.

Or a 9/11 type attack or sustained terror campaign without adequate retaliation.

Or arresting a GOP congressman on bullshit charges.

Or a sudden economic crash that depletes the EBT cards.

The list of sparks for the powder keg is short but Obama seems to be the sort who swerves into calamity like Ted Kennedy passing a river.

Or city, county, or state governments asking for bailouts from the federal government.

[debk]

We've had similiar discussions in our household.

I'm more concerned about a major terrorist attack in multiple sites, that will send the country into a total tailspin. Thus creating more division between the haves and the havenots and what will then happen. Having Obama in charge under those circumstances is really scary as he is so incompetent. It will be each community - city - state - on it's own, because Obama and his merry band of idiots won't have a clue.