alfredo (1000+ posts) Mon Jun-02-08 03:08 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3375358
The court has ruled that the evidence they have against a victim of bush's legal system should not be shared with the defendant's lawyer. Let me get this straight. If I got arrested I would have no right to see the evidence against me. I could be thrown in prison for the rest of my life, or be executed without ever knowing what they think I did.
http://jonathanturley.org/2008/06/02/latest-court-order...
I wonder if they will allow the defendant to state their defense.
What the link really said:
Below is the text of the latest court order in the Al-Timimi case. Today, I will be reviewing the classified material in the case.
As noted before, we will continue to try to update this website with any new developments subject to the restrictions of the classification rules and court seals.
UNCLASSIFIED REVISED ORDER GRANTING THE GOVERNMENT’S
MOTION FOR A PROTECTIVE ORDER PURSUANT TO CIPA
This matter having come before the Court upon an ex parte, in camera motion by the United States for a protective order pursuant to the Classified Information Procedures Act 18 U.S.C. App. 3, § 4, which was filed under seal, and based upon the pleadings filed in connection therewith, and for good cause shown,
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the motion by the United States for a Protective Order is GRANTED. In lieu of disclosure to defense counsel of the status report that was filed by the government ex parte and in camera on May 14, 2008, the United States may substitute the attachment to the Government’s Motion for a Protective Order, captioned “GOVERNMENT’S REVISED CLASSIFIED STATUS REPORT REGARDING COMPLETION OF SEARCH FOR DISCOVERABLE MATERIALS,†for the Court Security Officer to provide to cleared defense counsel.
The status report that was filed by the government on May 14, 2008 contained no information not contained in the “GOVERNMENT’S REVISED CLASSIFIED STATUS REPORT REGARDING COMPLETION OF SEARCH FOR DISCOVERABLE MATERIALS†that was either relevant and helpful to the defendant, or essential to a fair determination of this case, or that need be disclosed to defense counsel by the United States.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, in accordance with 18 U.S.C. App. 3, § 4, that the entire text of the motion of the United States for this Order shall remain sealed, shall not be disclosed to the defendant or his counsel, and shall be preserved in the records of the Court under seal to be made available to higher courts in the event of an appeal.
SO ENTERED, this 28th day of May, 2008.Who is the detainee?
Dr. Ali Al-Tamimi:
On April 26, 2005, he was convicted in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia of soliciting others to levy war against the United States and inducing others to use firearms in violation of federal law. Soon after the September 11, 2001 attacks he allegedly told a small group of young men to join the Taliban and fight the United States. On July 13, 2005, he was sentenced to life in prison plus 70 years without parole.
The Virginia Jihad Network was a network of jihadists centered in northern Virginia.
Ali al-Timimi was convicted in 2005 of exhorting his followers to join the Taliban and fight US troops. The young men played paintball in 2000 and 2001 as a means of training for holy war around the globe. Found guilty during 2003-4 of various terrorism-related offences were Muhammed Aatique, Hammad Abdur-Raheem, Ibrahim Ahmed Al-Hamdi, Seifullah Chapman, Khwaja Hasan, Masoud Khan, Yong Kwon, Randall Todd Royer and Donald Surratt.
Ali Asad Chandia was a third-grade teacher at the Al-Huda School, of Dar-us-Salaam mosque, in College Park, Maryland. Chandia provided material support to Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistani terrorist organization, and assisted the Network. On June 6, 2006, a jury unanimously found Chandia guilty. He was sentenced to 15 years in prison, with three years of supervised release at the end of his incarceration, on three counts of conspiracy and providing material support to Lashkar-e-Taiba on August 30, 2006.
Royer acknowledged that he committed his offenses to help other jihadists gain entry to the Lashkar-e-Taiba training camp following a meeting on September 16, 2001, at which an unindicted conspirator said that the September 11, 2001 attacks, would be used as an excuse to trigger a global war against Islam, and that the time had come for them to go abroad and, if possible, join the mujahideen. Three other individuals attending that meeting, Yong Kwon, Muhammed Aatique, and Khwaja Hasan - all of whom pled guilty -
stated that they went to the Lashkar-e-Taiba camp to obtain combat training for the purpose engaging in violent jihad in Afghanistan against the American troops that they expected would soon invade that country. Al-Hamdi also admitted to carrying a rocket-propelled grenade in furtherance of a conspiracy to undertake a military operation against India.
Khan, Chapman and Hammad Abdur-Raheem all were convicted of conspiring to provide material support to Lashkar-e-Taiba, a designated Foreign Terrorist Organization, and to attack India in violation of the Neutrality Act, as well as of various firearms related offenses, for conduct that spanned from 2000 to 2003.
