pie-and-jam primitive gets tutored

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1026464

Oh my.

pipoman (8,675 posts)   Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:24 AM

Wood working planes..

The world of collectors is vast, some areas of collecting require deeper pockets and are more competitive than others. In the world of antique tool collecting, none is more competitive than plane collecting. I have a few planes, but don't have the budget, nor really the interest to 'collect planes'. I do have an appreciation for the appeal of planes on a collector.
 
If you are ignoring planes on garage/estate sales and auctions, you may be missing a prize. Not every plane is valuable, as with any collectible condition, brand and model are what determines rarity. For example, a Stanley #3 plane:

after which an image of a woodworking plane
 
In nice shape and depending on version $40 to $80.

A Stanley #2 in nice condition OTOH,:

after which an image of a second woodworking plane

Will bring $200 to $400.

There are many examples of this in plane collecting. It is worthwhile to check eBay completed listings when you run across a plane. I've found many sleepers over the years. A lot of people will pay $30 for any working plane, not that many people understand the values of specific models, thus both the #2 or #3 above could be found priced at $30 at an estate sale.
 
Condition of common variety planes is based on correctness..no knobs replaced and original marked blade. Most early planes were painted black. This black paint was a nitrocellulose lacquer called 'japanning'. The amount of remaining japanning is important. Any chip or scratch can effect the value, but unlike glass, some wear from use doesn't dramatically reduce value or desirability, especially of rarer models.
 
Few planes are more desirable than a Stanley #1. This plane was a tiny version of a jack plane. The overall length is around 6"..the length of a $1 bill. Stanley #1 is not exactly rare, more scarce, but their allure to collectors and illusivness A nice example of a #1 would bring $1000 to $2000. The inspiration for this thread came when I found this plane on eBay:
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-RARE-Ohio-No-01-bench-plane-5-1-2-Great-shape-world-logo-on-blade-/400341882659?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d363c5723
 
For every Ohio #1 plane I have seen, I've seen 20 or more Stanley #1's. This plane is in only fair condition. It will be interesting to see the sale price. In most planes a corrugated bottom, as this plane has, increases the rarity and value.

Viva_La_Revolution (26,537 posts)    Fri Nov 23, 2012, 01:43 PM

3. I guess I need to take another look at mine

I know it's old, pretty sure there's no obvious brandname, and works like a dream. It's been stashed away for years...

pipoman (8,675 posts)    Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:24 AM

5. Yep, you never know where you'll find a good one..

About 20 years ago one of my retired neighbors asked me to look at his dad's wood working tools. Most of them were well kept, but well used lower end items, wooden planes (as opposed to steel) except for one plane. I recognized it from an auction I attended several years earlier. It is a combination plane called a "Fale's Patent". I consigned it (for him) on a national tool auction and it sold for $950.

grasswire (36,007 posts)   Fri Nov 23, 2012, 09:23 PM

4. thank you for the tutorial.

very much appreciated!

Uh oh.

Now the pie-and-jam primitive's off with her little red wagon, out seeking woodworking planes.

The pie-and-jam primitive puts her "finds" in a storage shed that surely by now's filled up to the rafters.

As the pie-and-jam primitive's no spring chicken, probably sometime within the next several years, her heirs are going to be charged with renting one of the construction-site-sized dumpsters, to empty out the shed.

[Skul]

Nah....they only need to tip the shed back over onto its wheels.
Waste Managment company has been looking for it. 

[Tucker]

Nah....they only need to tip the shed back over onto its wheels.
Waste Managment company has been looking for it. 

I'm sure that the police might have an interest in a few of the items as well.

[franksolich]

I'm sure that the police might have an interest in a few of the items as well.

You know, I don't mean to sound morbid, because I'm not being morbid, only practical.

Sooner or later, all of us, including franksolich, are going to reach our life's journey's end.

A great many of the packrat eBay primitives are women in their late sixties, early seventies.  One hopes they live many more years down the road, but the statistics are against it.

Don't they ever stop to think about what a load of work, a mess of work, a heap of work, they're going to leave their heirs, what with their packed-to-the-rafters homes and sheds?

They insist they're "treasures," but really, it's all junque.  Their heirs, busy with so many other things, will have to just get a dumpster there and fill it up, sending it all off to the landfill.

Now, I'm about a generation and a half younger than the pie-and-jam primitive (who's apparently created five generations in 65 years, believe it or not, according to her own words), but for the longest time I've had things set out in such a way that when the grieving nephews show up, it's going to take them two hours, tops, to deal with it.  That's everything from the furniture out here to the family achives and valuables in a rented storage unit in town to the bank safe-deposit box.

Two hours, tops, to identify and pack their stuff, and be on their way.

[GOBUCKS]

A great many of the packrat eBay primitives are women in their late sixties, early seventies.  One hopes they live many more years down the road, but the statistics are against it.

Now, I'm about a generation and a half younger than the pie-and-jam primitive (who's apparently created five generations in 65 years, believe it or not, according to her own words), but for the longest time I've had things set out in such a way that when the grieving nephews show up, it's going to take them two hours, tops, to deal with it.  That's everything from the furniture out here to the family achives and valuables in a rented storage unit in town to the bank safe-deposit box.

Two hours, tops, to identify and pack their stuff, and be on their way.

You're a compassionate guy with respect to the vicious, hateful DUmpmonkettes.
My wish is that they all find an early grave.

But remember, most of what poor addled grasswipe has stored up is obvious trash, detritus she's picked up from devil strips, intended for the garbage truck.

Much of the remainder consists of little bottles filled with hair clippings, collected from the floors of barber shops all around town.

Remember, she's well and truly addled.

Her five generations of survivors will need only minutes to dispose of her earthly possessions.