http://www.democraticunderground.com/117287894A little old but nice to see the the gungeon united in their hatred of Hoyt, whom I have on my DOTY list.
krispos42 (43,145 posts)
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### (Closed) Discussion to create a process to un-ban members ###
Last edited Wed Nov 28, 2012, 01:09 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
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On November 3rd of this year, member "rDigital" was blocked from the Group due to an original post in which s/he posted a poll asking if gun-control advocates were Holocaust enablers.
rDigital immediately petitioned for reinstatement (the first to do so), but I felt that the impending Election Day and the associated confusion, plus the jubilation of Obama's inevitable victory and our schadenfreude of the right-wing meltdown, would not be the best time to work on this.
Plus, I noticed that a time-out period of a couple of weeks gives Group regulars a chance to see how things were without rDigital there, and could decide, among other things, whether the Group is better with or without him/her in there.
Since rDigital is the first member to petition for reinstatement, we're establishing a precedent here that I hope will be followed in the future.
Here is how I would like it to work, and I would like some feedback on this.
The members of the Group will debate the following in a thread:
Whether the blocking offense was justifiable in the first place (does it need to be reversed because it was unjustified?)
Whether the blocking offense is forgivable
While I would hope that the debate would stay only on those two points above, I am reasonably sure that the following points will be debated as well:
Whether the member was a productive regular of the Group
Whether the member participated in a positive fashion in the Group
How well-liked the member was among the members and sides in the Group
The general history of the member in the Group
After a set period of discussion (I'm thinking a week) I would lock the thread and open a polling thread for a final vote with a very simple question "Reinstate? Yes/No" and hold this open for a set period (say, a day).
At the end of the polling period, majority rules.
Opinions?
I'll let this float for the holiday weekend, and pin it to the top on Monday.
On edit: changed "banned" to "blocked". -K
Warren Stupidity (29,259 posts)
27. has rdigital said anything to indicate that he no longer agrees with
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this rightwing nonsense?
Is Hoyt getting unbanned too?
PavePusher (14,838 posts)
34. Hoyt has not stopped making unfounded associations/accusations about gun owners...
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including DU gun owners, in other Groups and catagories.
So I'd say he wasn't a candidate for re-instatement even if he asks for it.
Warren Stupidity (29,259 posts)
80. Hoyt is not be recalled for exile.
glacierbay (2,477 posts)
82. Hoyt has made it very clear that he's not going to stop his nonsense
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in regards to this group. All one has to do is look at his posts concerning the guns issue and his constant insults towards gun owner, furthermore, he made it clear to Krispos42 that he had no intention of apologizing for his vile remark and he's not asked to be re-instated.
gejohnston (9,684 posts)
83. Hoyt said much worse things
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on a regular basis,
like defending a US Marshall machine gunning a fleeing 14 year old, simply because his last name was Weaver, sins of the fathers etc.
another was accusing someone who shot an attacker at a gas station of being "a white racist" when the article described the attacker attacked one person who was able to get away, then started beating the shit out of the CCW holder. The article clearly said witnesses said the CCW holder tried to retreat before firing. This was the post that made me wonder if Hoyt isn't racist himself.
Why are you surprised? The democrat party, as a whole, is a racist organization.
The rest of the campfire is about rdigital and a statement he made about the Holocaust.
snot (7,658 posts)
76. The ONLY people I'd vote to block or ban
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are trolls.
I don't care how outrageous or stupid or whatever a person's posts are, I can put up with those.
What I hate are the posters who aren't saying what they really think, but in sheep's clothing, trying to derail genuine discussion.
krispos42 (43,145 posts)
91. Locking
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Although the discussion in this thread was not primarily about the reinstatement process (as I had hoped it would be), there does seem to be enough consensus that there should be a process.
In pursuit of this goal, I will now start an official discussion thread pertaining to rDigital's reinstatement. I'll let that go for a few days, then we'll have a vote.
Thanks,
Krispos42, Group Host
Reinstatement was damn near unanimous. Hoyt is still barred.
Tuesday Afternoon (39,316 posts)
56. here is the list:
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1 bupkus
2 Hoyt
3 bongbong
4 rDigital
I can agree with the others because they, at least, tried to post substance and would make coherent discussion.
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