Pathetic - Walmart Record Black Friday Sales Despite Strike

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TheMastersNemesis (1,700 posts)

Pathetic - Walmart Record Black Friday Sales Despite Strike


 
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American workers deserve to work for crap and dirt wages. They simply do not support labor causes. It is ok for a worker to work for starvation wages as long as it is not me attitude really sucks.

I hear this crap all the time. "If they don't like the work, then go find another job. The American people are responsible for jobs and income being in the crapper. Too many voted GOP for so long and most likely accepted the corporate propaganda.
If you don't support decent pay for the other guy, your job will be in the crapper. If not now, then someday in the future.

As far as I can tell we have lost our empathy, our soul and our conscience as a nation. What the hell are our troops defending?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021875290

awwww poor widdle DUmmies all upset that their astro turf movement didn't bring Wal Mart to its knees. 

DearHeart (268 posts)
1. You are completely correct...we have lost our empathy, soul and our conscience.

Not everyone, but the vast majority. That vast majority of people do have the "I've got mine" or "As long as it's not me" attitudes, and unfortunately it will take those people to have something horrible happen in their lives (losing their jobs, etc.) for them to wake the HELL up! Unfortunately, the majority of my "family" has these attitudes.

I haven't lost empathy one bit, I'm one of those people in the 0bama economy who works a miserable job for not so great wages. Yet I don't piss and moan about it. I do my job, do it well and try to find ways to get a better job in the future. I wouldn't dream of throwing any of the temper tantrums that union type people throw.

nadinbrzezinski (112,314 posts)
2. You know what?

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We covered the story and we got the pr release on Wednesday. After I read that...I predicted the record sales...I have no access to the numbers, neither do you.

Go ahead and call me a cynic. Oh and the mall I went to on public transit no less, since I expected it to be a pain in the you know what...had plenty of parking spots. But yup, Wednesday night I told hubby...no matter what happens, they will have the bestest, record breaking, Black Friday sale in the history of humanity...

When it came, I smiled. I got to credit their PR people. Call me a cynic, but I am reminded of Wolfowitz and company speaking of creating their new reality. Wait for Tuesday's at the latest, ahem...correction...when nobody is paying attention. Or worst, a Friday nooz dump.

I wonder if Nadin ever notices that they always revise the economic numbers the week after they are released, and it's never a positive adjustment. So if Wal Mart does this, they just do what the government does.

JaneyVee (1,324 posts)
16. Ask any single Wal-Mart employee if they would like a raise. That's what's at stake here.

Hell ask anyone if they want a raise and 100% will say yes. Now ask them how many of you are willing to risk losing your job by walking out and 1% will say yes. Most folks are grown ups and realize that life isn't always getting what we want. It's about making it the best we can and doing what it takes to make things better. I would love to ask everyone who is demanding higher pay what they are willing to do extra to deserve that extra pay they are demanding. I bet you they will say nothing.

mythology (639 posts)
17. Perhaps labor didn't fight enough to make the case for the strike to the public or to workers

You are expecting people who have little, ie Wal-Mart workers, to strike when they are getting overtime and right before the holidays? Not exactly the best time. If you wanted more people to come out to protest what efforts were made to highlight this? I only heard about it here. Instead of trying to go nationwide, I think they should have picked one store to have people protest, in an area with lower unemployment. Trying to go national was just an invitation to fail because there are wide stretches of this country where unions aren't looked on favorably. Fight on favorable ground first.

But I think what you're really upset about is that you got your heart set on this and people didn't do what you wanted. Then make a better case, calling people names doesn't really help. People will come out for good causes, if properly motivated. I know of several people who didn't believe in politics who became enchanted because of Elizabeth Warren this year. But this strike was never set up to succeed.

Or it could be people would rather have a job than to be part of some stunt orchestrated by malcontents and unions.
While all you malcontents are griping about how horrible your lives are, there are millions of us too busy working to try to get a better life to play these stupid games.

[Skul]

Just have to laugh every time they call it a "strike".
Not a strike, DUmpmonkeys.  It was a staged yewnyun action where they hoped they could rake in more yewnyun dues.
Had nothing to do with helping the worker. It's all about yewnyun dues.

Is professional cynic on gNads resume?

[formerlurker]

nadinbrzezinski (112,314 posts)
2. You know what?

Last edited Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:41 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

We covered the story and we got the pr release on Wednesday. After I read that...I predicted the record sales...I have no access to the numbers, neither do you.

Go ahead and call me a cynic. Oh and the mall I went to on public transit no less, since I expected it to be a pain in the you know what...had plenty of parking spots. But yup, Wednesday night I told hubby...no matter what happens, they will have the bestest, record breaking, Black Friday sale in the history of humanity...

When it came, I smiled. I got to credit their PR people. Call me a cynic, but I am reminded of Wolfowitz and company speaking of creating their new reality. Wait for Tuesday's at the latest, ahem...correction...when nobody is paying attention. Or worst, a Friday nooz dump.

nadinbrzezinski (112,328 posts)
15. And I am predicting the rise of a new labor movement

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Out of the shambles of the old. Nothing, is forever.

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1868048

nadinbrzezinski (112,328 posts)
52. I am looking forwards to Black Friday

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This could very well be a turning point for labor.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021855057#post52

That's right kids - 15 misfits outside Walmart in the middle of the day = turning point for labor, and our Nads was there to capture it in photos and print.

So.Proud.   

[ChuckJ]

I would figure that the ones who did walk out were probably dead weight who usually got in the way of the real workers. The real workers probably got more done and had a more pleasant work environment.

[jtyangel]

nadinbrzezinski (112,328 posts)
15. And I am predicting the rise of a new labor movement

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Out of the shambles of the old. Nothing, is forever.

Yeah, since they destroyed manufacturing in this country, I guess they gotta move on to other things. I see the future here if they get their wish: more unskilled people unemployed and nothing but self-checkouts with one or two incompetent and overpaid union cashiers working them.

[Tess Anderson]

Well, this is all because the meme is out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021876452

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:30 PM
nadinbrzezinski (112,331 posts)

26 stores, so claims the media
Just in San Diego alone we had 10 stores hit.

The meme is out though.

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:31 PM
 proud2BlibKansan (94,235 posts)
2. 26 stores in 31 cities

 

Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (112,331 posts)
3. By their logic one third

Happened in San Diego county, hardly likely. 

[GOBUCKS]

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:31 PM
proud2BlibKansan (94,235 posts)
2. 26 stores in 31 cities

Uh, DUmmy proud2BDUmb, our undeserving DUmmy of the Year a couple of years ago, is a union schoolteacher.

The union probably forces the taxpayers to let her teach math.

In unionmath, you can have 26 stores in 31 cities.

[formerlurker]

nadinbrzezinski (112,334 posts)
3. By their logic one third

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Happened in San Diego county, hardly likely.

I forget, but aren't you a reporter Nads (with real live press credentials and everything)?   Why aren't you reporting the real number then?

[jtyangel]

Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #2)
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:35 PM
nadinbrzezinski (112,331 posts)
3. By their logic one third

Happened in San Diego county, hardly likely. 

yeah it is likely and expected imo. Where else can you gather a cadre of illegal or barely legal non English speaking employees and tell them they should DEMAND MORE!!! And have them do it? As was said before, useful idiots, I live in Ohio and there was NO such walkouts or protests here. You FAIL!

BTW, anyone else notice where most of these hijinks have some effect is where you can find a sizable population of those of questionable legal status? hmmmmmmmmmmm

[compaqxp]

It's funny how every time they try and do something it fails and/or backfires.

[Ballygrl]

Umm, in reference to Walmart? Jason Furman who's Deputy Director of the National Economic Council under Obama? he likes Walmart and thinks it's good. Just some snippets from the article from 2006:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/dialogues/features/2006/is_walmart_good_for_the_american_working_class/the_low_prices_are_good_news.html

Is Wal-Mart Good for the American Working Class?

He admits he's an elitist snob

I myself have never worked at Wal-Mart, and I can only remember shopping there once. In fact, I instinctively recoil at the big-box shopping centers spreading their uniformity across the American landscape. But I try hard not to let my personal and somewhat elitist shopping inclinations get in the way of an appraisal of Wal-Mart's positive role in America's economy and society.

Are you as surprised as I am by how quickly Wal-Mart's critics move past the issue of low prices? You will hear comments like, "Yes, Wal-Mart may have somewhat low prices, but let's talk about its impact on workers, the environment, trade with China, etc." But given just how important these low prices are to the hundreds of millions of Americans that shop there, I hope I can beg your indulgence to linger on them for a few moments.

A range of studies has found that Wal-Mart's prices are 8 percent to 39 percent below the prices of its competitors.

MIT economist Jerry Hausman, found that grocery sales by Wal-Mart and other big-box stores made consumers better off to the tune of 25 percent of food consumption. That doesn't mean much for those of us in the top fifth of the income distribution—we spend only about 3.5 percent of our income on food at home and, at least in my case, most of that shopping is done at high-priced supermarkets like Whole Foods. But that's a huge savings for households in the bottom quintile, which, on average, spend 26 percent of their income on food.

OK, enough indulging. Maybe you're ready to grant my point that Wal-Mart's low prices are great for the 298 million Americans who don't work there. But what about the 1.3 million Americans who do work for Wal-Mart? Here the evidence is murkier, in part because Wal-Mart refuses to release the data on its wages and benefits that could clear up a number of questions. What we do know is that its wages and benefits are about average for the retail sector—which is to say, not so great. It is harder to quantify other aspects of the job, like the quality of the work, the number of breaks, the prospects for advancement. You should let me know how you think it compares.

But I understand why progressives are so upset about low wages and inadequate benefits. I am also upset by the rise of inequality and the relatively slow economic progress that the bottom 80 percent of Americans have made over the last several decades. I just think Wal-Mart is the wrong place to put the blame or to expect the solution. But I'll postpone that discussion for another day.

[98ZJUSMC]

heMastersNemesis (1,700 posts)

Pathetic - Walmart Record Black Friday Sales Despite Strike


 
Last edited Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:21 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

American workers deserve to work for crap and dirt wages. They simply do not support labor causes. It is ok for a worker to work for starvation wages as long as it is not me attitude really sucks.

I hear this crap all the time. "If they don't like the work, then go find another job. The American people are responsible for jobs and income being in the crapper. Too many voted GOP for so long and most likely accepted the corporate propaganda.
If you don't support decent pay for the other guy, your job will be in the crapper. If not now, then someday in the future.

As far as I can tell we have lost our empathy, our soul and our conscience as a nation. What the hell are our troops defending?  

Weapons Grade Stupid.


Heh!...via Instapundit:

HOW DO YOU TAKE OVER A WAL-MART? “An assembly line is a delicate process that can be stopped by holding one of dozens of chokepoints hostage. A store can pretty much only be stopped by holding the whole store.”

And you don’t want to get in the way of Wal-Mart customers on Black Friday. If I were management, I’d just announce that all flat-screen TVs were $20 each for the first hour. Strike broken, “occupiers” trampled, end of story.  

OK, enough indulging. Maybe you're ready to grant my point that Wal-Mart's low prices are great for the 298 million Americans who don't work there. But what about the 1.3 million Americans who do work for Wal-Mart? Here the evidence is murkier, in part because Wal-Mart refuses to release the data on its wages and benefits that could clear up a number of questions. What we do know is that its wages and benefits are about average for the retail sector—which is to say, not so great. It is harder to quantify other aspects of the job, like the quality of the work, the number of breaks, the prospects for advancement. You should let me know how you think it compares. 

Well, Mr. Elitist Snob, here's something else:  Those 1.3 million Wal-Mart employees get an additional 10% off food and merchandise.

[98ZJUSMC]

It's funny how every time they try and do something it fails and/or backfires.

Except vote fraud and voter intimidation.  They excel at that.

[98ZJUSMC]

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Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:31 PM
proud2BlibKansan (94,235 posts)
2. 26 stores in 31 cities

Uh, DUmmy proud2BDUmb, our undeserving DUmmy of the Year a couple of years ago, is a union schoolteacher.

The union probably forces the taxpayers to let her teach math.

In unionmath, you can have 26 stores in 31 cities.

 

  DearHeart (268 posts)
1. You are completely correct...we have lost our empathy, soul and our conscience.

Not everyone, but the vast majority. That vast majority of people do have the "I've got mine" or "As long as it's not me" attitudes, and unfortunately it will take those people to have something horrible happen in their lives (losing their jobs, etc.) for them to wake the HELL up! Unfortunately, the majority of my "family" has these attitudes.

Uh huh.  Now, who imparted that attitude, should it exist, on fReEsHitaRmy!!!!11!!? 

Hmmm?  When someone gets crap for free, do you really think they give a damn about anyone else?  Huh? 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Failed Strike: when you literally can't do nothing right

[diesel driver]

DearHeart (268 posts)
1. You are completely correct...we have lost our empathy, soul and our conscience.

Not everyone, but the vast majority. That vast majority of people do have the "I've got mine" or "As long as it's not me" attitudes...

The key to Barry's re-election, in a nutshell.

[miskie]

Uh, DUmmy proud2BDUmb, our undeserving DUmmy of the Year a couple of years ago, is a union schoolteacher.

The union probably forces the taxpayers to let her teach math.

In unionmath, you can have 26 stores in 31 cities.

Maybe Walmart has a thing for building single stores that straddle town borders ? 

[Undies]

The Left's problem is all their hopes and dreams about a mass reenactment of Norma Rea is not about The Worker.  It all about "The Workers" and how the left can use them as a group to help destroy capitalism and further the cause of soul-killing socialism.

As usually happens in all the Left's dreams, they pretend human nature does not exist.