DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee

[Miss Mia]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

I only watched a bit of this at the end.  Ickes says Hillary reserves the right to take this to the Credentials Committee in Denver. 

Crowd of Hillary supporters shout and yell and scream inside hall after the Michigan vote. 

[Chris_]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

Is that a suggestion or a report?

[Miss Mia]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

Is that a suggestion or a report?

A report.  They met today and just wrapped up.

[franksolich]

But Miss Mia, I have a problem with this.

There's a larger issue at stake here.

The larger issue is, do the elected representatives of the people of a state select dates on which to hold their primaries, or does the short little doctor of the Democrat National Committee tell states when to hold such events?

I say seat them all, no matter if they're committed to Hillary Clinton or to Barry "Goldwater" Obama.

Let democracy, and not the Democrat National Committee, rule.

[Chris_]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

Is that a suggestion or a report?

A report.  They met today and just wrapped up.

How funny -- they caved.  Now it is unfair to BOTH hussein and mrs. clinton.

This is the BEST outcome for us and for Operation Chaos!!

Great news!

[Willow]

I don't think they got too far in "unifying their party"  

[Chris_]

But Miss Mia, I have a problem with this.

There's a larger issue at stake here.

The larger issue is, do the elected representatives of the people of a state select dates on which to hold their primaries, or does the short little doctor of the Democrat National Committee tell states when to hold such events?

I say seat them all, no matter if they're committed to Hillary Clinton or to Barry "Goldwater" Obama.

Let democracy, and not the Democrat National Committee, rule.

Great DUspaek :) ;)

[Miss Mia]

But Miss Mia, I have a problem with this.

There's a larger issue at stake here.

The larger issue is, do the elected representatives of the people of a state select dates on which to hold their primaries, or does the short little doctor of the Democrat National Committee tell states when to hold such events?

I say seat them all, no matter if they're committed to Hillary Clinton or to Barry "Goldwater" Obama.

Let democracy, and not the Democrat National Committee, rule.

This is the same committee that striped them of all their delegates. 

Frank, I believe there needs to be a change of how the primaries are held and in what order. 

[Willow]

Harold Ickes, said "you bet your aZz" twice, he is mad me thinks!

[Chris_]

But Miss Mia, I have a problem with this.

There's a larger issue at stake here.

The larger issue is, do the elected representatives of the people of a state select dates on which to hold their primaries, or does the short little doctor of the Democrat National Committee tell states when to hold such events?

I say seat them all, no matter if they're committed to Hillary Clinton or to Barry "Goldwater" Obama.

Let democracy, and not the Democrat National Committee, rule.

This is the same committee that striped them of all their delegates. 

Frank, I believe there needs to be a change of how the primaries are held and in what order. 

One big day, period.  And NH and IA can suck rocks and pound sand.

[Miss Mia]

From MSNBC:

link

The committee agreed on a compromise offered by the Michigan Democratic Party that would split the difference, allowing Clinton to take 69 delegates and Obama 59. Each delegate would get half a vote at the convention in Denver this summer, according to the deal.

They also agreed to seat the Florida delegation based on the outcome of the January primary, with 105 pledged delegates for Clinton and 67 for Obama, but with each delegate getting half a vote as a penalty.

The resolution increased the number of delegates needed to clinch the nomination to 2,118, leaving Obama 66 delegates short but still within striking distance after the three final primaries are held in the next three days.

Obama picked up a total of 32 delegates in Michigan, including superdelegates who have already committed, and 36 in Florida. Clinton picked up 38 in Michigan, including superdelegates, and 56.5 in Florida.

Obama's total increased to 2,052, and Clinton had 1,877.5, according to The Associated Press calculations.

[Willow]

Next step, the Florida Republicans will seat their delegates not at 50% but at 100%. Next step after Denver, Hillary will run on and Independent ticket!

[Chris_]

I saw Jim Blanchard's speech.  I thought he was going to cry.  I tried to watch the rest of it... maybe that's what put me to sleep.

I did enjoy my nap. 

[Miss Mia]

I saw Jim Blanchard's speech.  I thought he was going to cry.  I tried to watch the rest of it... maybe that's what put me to sleep.

I did enjoy my nap. 

I only watched the last probably 10 minutes.  I may be a political dork, but I'm not that much of a dork. 

[Happy Fun Ball]

How funny -- they caved.  Now it is unfair to BOTH hussein and mrs. clinton.

This is the BEST outcome for us and for Operation Chaos!!

Great news!

The only thing that could have made it better was if they made it 3/5ths of a vote instead of 1/2. This convention will be more entertaining than anything on cable right now.

[BEG]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

I only watched a bit of this at the end.  Ickes says Hillary reserves the right to take this to the Credentials Committee in Denver. 

Crowd of Hillary supporters shout and yell and scream inside hall after the Michigan vote. 

I heard on a talk show recently that they have to do that anyway, it's already written in the stupid rules.  They didn't decide anything, this whole thing was a sham. 

[NHSparky]

But Miss Mia, I have a problem with this.

There's a larger issue at stake here.

The larger issue is, do the elected representatives of the people of a state select dates on which to hold their primaries, or does the short little doctor of the Democrat National Committee tell states when to hold such events?

I say seat them all, no matter if they're committed to Hillary Clinton or to Barry "Goldwater" Obama.

Let democracy, and not the Democrat National Committee, rule.

This is the same committee that striped them of all their delegates. 

Frank, I believe there needs to be a change of how the primaries are held and in what order. 

One big day, period.  And NH and IA can suck rocks and pound sand.

Bitchslap for telling me to pound sand.

And oh, if it hadn't been for DEM legislatures trying to **** up the works, none of this would have happened.  Frankly, it's not up to the DNC to decide when the primaries take place, so why punish them.

As the Dummies keep screaming after every election, "Count every vote!"  Ah, delicious irony that they don't live up to their own pontification.

[Willow]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

I only watched a bit of this at the end.  Ickes says Hillary reserves the right to take this to the Credentials Committee in Denver. 

Crowd of Hillary supporters shout and yell and scream inside hall after the Michigan vote. 

I heard on a talk show recently that they have to do that anyway, it's already written in the stupid rules.  They didn't decide anything, this whole thing was a sham. 

That sounds about right!

[Willow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYzzyctEVcs&feature=related

[NHSparky]

Damn it's fun to watch these people eat their own.

[Willow]

Damn it's fun to watch these people eat their own.

I don't know who the little lady is sitting directly to Mr. Ickies left but she pretty much told them the same thing. I think they can kiss party unity goodbye.

[Hawkgirl]

What a bunch of clowns....For Michigan, the undecided will be seated with a 60% for Hillary and 40% for Barrack..."undecided" is a legitimate option.....but let's not let rules get in the way...the DNC will decide what those voters really want...They are so repulsive and I hope Hannity repeats this RULING every day till November.

[Wretched Excess]

I saw Jim Blanchard's speech.  I thought he was going to cry.  I tried to watch the rest of it... maybe that's what put me to sleep.

I did enjoy my nap. 

I only watched the last probably 10 minutes.  I may be a political dork, but I'm not that much of a dork. 

I guess I am.

I watched a lot of it.  in between dealing with a flat tire (when was the last time anyone ever even heard of a flat tire???) and having the "weekend duty", I probably watched around half of it.

assuming that the whole thing doesn't wind up in court, hillary gets nothing like the delegate kiss she was looking for.  but this does lend legitimacy to the votes that she got in FL and MI.  her claim to the lead in the popular vote (odd counting practices in caucus states notwithstanding, of course, Mia ) sounds much less unrealistic.

[Miss Mia]

I saw Jim Blanchard's speech.  I thought he was going to cry.  I tried to watch the rest of it... maybe that's what put me to sleep.

I did enjoy my nap. 

I only watched the last probably 10 minutes.  I may be a political dork, but I'm not that much of a dork. 

I guess I am.

I watched a lot of it.  in between dealing with a flat tire (when was the last time anyone ever even heard of a flat tire???) and having the "weekend duty", I probably watched around half of it.

assuming that the whole thing doesn't wind up in court, hillary gets nothing like the delegate kiss she was looking for.  but this does lend legitimacy to the votes that she got in FL and MI.  her claim to the lead in the popular vote (odd counting practices in caucus states notwithstanding, of course, Mia ) sounds much less unrealistic.

The court system will do exactly what it's been doing, throwing out any lawsuits. 

Also, I read this interesting post on DU.

grantcart  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Journal 
at May-31-08 09:37 PM
Original message
Relax Hillary Cannot Appeal to the Credentials Committee   Updated at 2:39 PM
   
Hillary Cannot Appeal



The Rules of the Committee nailed the Clinton's campaign shut.

Hillary did not reserve the right to appeal. She has no such right.

Dissatisfied Democrats in Michigan could mount an appeal but it would have to do three things to last more than 5 minutes

1) They would have to show that there was real harm and a clear injustice.

2) They would have to show that their remedy was better than what the Rules Committee came up with.

3) The would have to show that there is widespread support for this in the Michigan State Democratic Party.;


When the Rules Committee ruled unanimously on the Florida resolution it eliminated a two state problem and now Hillary can only complain about Michigan.



Harold Ickes "we reserve the right to appeal" is just the silly old lawyer trying to say something bold to buck up the client on the way out before the Sheriff takes him off to jail.

What do you expect him to say "We got our asses handed today and its all over"?

[RightCoast]

Give Florida and Michigan half their delegates.

Is that a suggestion or a report?

A report.  They met today and just wrapped up.

How funny -- they caved.  Now it is unfair to BOTH hussein and mrs. clinton.

This is the BEST outcome for us and for Operation Chaos!!

Great news!

Typical idiot dems that can't make a hard decision or stick to a rule.