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Union breaks Hostess
« on: November 16, 2012, 11:16:30 AM »
A bakers union collapses Hostess.

The end of Twinkies, Wonderbread, and perhaps the free world as we know it...

http://www.nasdaq.com/video/video.aspx?vid=Hostess-Brands-Closes-Down-517541399
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 11:25:14 AM »
I'm not sure about the legalities, but these businesses that can not afford the unions should move to a non union state. 


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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 11:25:36 AM »
Quote from: cattlebaron on November 16, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
A bakers union collapses Hostess.

The end of Twinkies, Wonderbread, and perhaps the free world as we know it...

http://www.nasdaq.com/video/video.aspx?vid=Hostess-Brands-Closes-Down-517541399

You can bet that the assets will be acquired by...



Grupo Bimbo (pronounced "BEEM-bo") (BMV: BIMBO) the world's largest baking company,with brands in the Americas, Asia, and Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Bimbo

Good luck to the union thugs with that.


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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 11:26:39 AM »
Quote from: Dori on November 16, 2012, 11:25:14 AM
I'm not sure about the legalities, but these businesses that can not afford the unions should move to a non union state. 




Oh man, I wish they came to South Dakota with those jobs. Maybe I should call Bimbo.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 11:27:44 AM »
Quote from: Dori on November 16, 2012, 11:25:14 AM
I'm not sure about the legalities, but these businesses that can not afford the unions should move to a non union state. 




They're already headquartered in Irving, TX so they should just move everything here.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 11:29:05 AM »
Hey they can come to Florida...we could use the jobs down here. And we are a free to work state. (I think that's what it's called)
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 11:30:09 AM »
Quote from: cattlebaron on November 16, 2012, 11:26:39 AM
Oh man, I wish they came to South Dakota with those jobs. Maybe I should call Bimbo.

Beembo about half a year ago bought out Old Home Bakery of Sioux City, Iowa, saving lots of jobs in northern Nebraska, eastern Iowa, and South Dakota.  Plus some other states; I dunno how far Old Home's territory goes.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 11:34:50 AM »
Quote from: Linda on November 16, 2012, 11:29:05 AM
Hey they can come to Florida...we could use the jobs down here. And we are a free to work state. (I think that's what it's called)

Right to work. As well as South Dakota. Thank goodness...
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 11:40:07 AM »
Thanks cattlebaron I just couldn't come up with the right words...this getting old stuff, stinks.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 12:13:13 PM »
Quote from: cattlebaron on November 16, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Right to work. As well as South Dakota. Thank goodness...

Hmm, that's a tough one.





Or





 :-)


Oh, and no state income tax.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 12:27:25 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on November 16, 2012, 12:13:13 PM
Hmm, that's a tough one.





Or





 :-)


Oh, and no state income tax.


Its on. lol.

This...




With no state income tax or state corporate tax.

Or this...



With a state corporate tax.

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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 12:31:03 PM »
Quote from: cattlebaron on November 16, 2012, 12:27:25 PM

Its on. lol.

This...




With no state income tax or state corporate tax.

Or this...



With a state corporate tax.



You go, sir.  You're right. 
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 12:51:31 PM »
Quote from: cattlebaron on November 16, 2012, 12:27:25 PM


With a state corporate tax.



That's Kaleefornia.  I'm referring to Florida, the panhandle, the good part, the ONLY part that matters.





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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012, 01:59:58 PM »
The detrimental effects of unions.
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Union kills the Twinkie
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2012, 04:14:43 PM »
5000 moronic union members are now responsible for Hostess closing it's doors for good. This will result in the loss of over 18000 direct employees. Who knows how many indirect jobs may also be lost as a result.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-hostess-brands-seeks-court-permission-to-liquidate-20121116,0,3175964.story
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2012, 04:25:50 PM »
As I said in another thread, seeing that the Teamsters agreed to these concessions and the bakers' union didn't, it I were in the bakers' union, I'd be very wary of anyone or anything connected with the Teamsters for a very long time.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2012, 06:12:42 PM »
Unions! "Saving" their jobs by ending them.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2012, 07:17:56 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 16, 2012, 04:25:50 PM
As I said in another thread, seeing that the Teamsters agreed to these concessions and the bakers' union didn't, it I were in the bakers' union, I'd be very wary of anyone or anything connected with the Teamsters for a very long time.

The Teamsters were going as far as suggesting the baker's unions take some cuts. 
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2012, 08:11:25 PM »
Here is a statement from the Teamsters...


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In fact, when Hostess attempted to throw out its collective bargaining agreement with the Teamsters in court, the Teamsters fought back and won, ensuring that Hostess could not unilaterally make changes to working conditions during the several months’ long legal process that recently ended. Teamster Hostess members were allowed to decide their fate by voting on the final offer conducted by a secret mail ballot.  More than two-thirds of Hostess Teamsters members voted with 53 percent voting to approve the final offer.

The BCTGM chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process. BCTGM members were told there were better solutions than the final offer, although Judge Drain stated in his decision in bankruptcy court that no such solutions exist. Without complete information, BCTGM members voted by voice votes in union halls. The BCTGM reported that over 90 percent rejected the final offer and three of its units ratified the final offer.

On Friday, Nov. 9, the BCTGM began to strike at some Hostess production facilities without notice to the Teamsters despite assurances they would not proceed with job actions without contacting the Teamsters Union. This unannounced action put Teamster members in the difficult position of facing picket lines without knowing their right to honor such a line without being disciplined.

As is our longstanding tradition, Teamster members by and large are honoring Bakery Worker picket lines when encountered and complying with their contractual obligations when not encountering picket lines. The BCTGM leaders are putting Teamster members in a horrible position – asking them to support a strike that will put them out of a job when they haven’t even asked all their members to go on strike.

That strike is now on the verge of forcing the company to liquidate – it is difficult for Teamster members to believe that is what the BCTGM Hostess members ultimately wanted to accomplish when they went out on strike. We may never know unless the BCTGM members, based on the facts they know today, get to determine their fate in a secret ballot vote. Teamster members would understand that the will of the BCTGM Hostess membership was truly heard if that was the case.

They are not happy...
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2012, 08:53:25 PM »
Will the jobs go to.....Mexico ?




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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2012, 05:47:36 AM »
Quote from: dixierose on November 16, 2012, 08:11:25 PM
Here is a statement from the Teamsters...


They are not happy...

Are there any stadiums or large buildings going up near the old Hostess bakeries?  If there are, and any members/leaders of the bakers' union suddenly disappear, that's where I'd start looking.

Jus' sayin' . . . :whistling:
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2012, 09:39:08 AM »
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That strike is now on the verge of forcing the company to liquidate – it is difficult for Teamster members to believe that is what the BCTGM Hostess members ultimately wanted to accomplish when they went out on strike. We may never know unless the BCTGM members, based on the facts they know today, get to determine their fate in a secret ballot vote. Teamster members would understand that the will of the BCTGM Hostess membership was truly heard if that was the case.

Wait, Teamsters, now you're FOR a secret ballot? I see. When it suits you, secret ballots OK. When it doesn't, and you wish to intimidate members, you'd have taken the same approach.
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2012, 01:50:17 PM »
Years ago when the low carb diets started to be very popular a Wonder-Hostess bakery in Davenport, Iowa closed down. The street, Twinkie Boulevard remains.

The smell of the fresh bread when you drove by that plant on River Drive in Davenport, IA was amazing.


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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2012, 05:27:26 PM »
Quote from: RobJohnson on November 17, 2012, 01:50:17 PM
Years ago when the low carb diets started to be very popular a Wonder-Hostess bakery in Davenport, Iowa closed down. The street, Twinkie Boulevard remains.

The smell of the fresh bread when you drove by that plant on River Drive in Davenport, IA was amazing.


What?!?

You mean the scent of bread baking isn't covered under EPA's Clean Air Act?!?

Oh, the HORRORS!  :whatever:
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Re: Union breaks Hostess
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2012, 06:47:05 PM »
The store had a sign on the shelf where the Hostess cakes used to be.  It read "Why eat a Twinkie when you have our pumpernickel rye for only $1.99." 

I like pumpernickel, so I bought a loaf. :lmao:
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