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Former CIA Director David Petraeus has agreed to testify about the Libya terror attack before the House and Senate intelligence committees, Fox News has learned.

Petraeus had originally been scheduled to testify this Thursday on the burgeoning controversy over the deadly Sept. 11 attack.

That appearance was scuttled, though, after the director abruptly resigned over an extramarital affair.

Lawmakers, though, complained that the scandal was no reason they shouldn't hear from the man at the helm of the CIA when CIA operatives came under attack alongside State Department employees in Benghazi last month.

The logistics of Petraeus' appearance are still being worked out. But a source close to Petraeus said the former four-star general has contacted the CIA, as well as committees in both the House and Senate, to offer his testimony as the former CIA director.

Fox News has learned he is expected to speak off-site to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Friday about his Libya report.

The House side is still being worked out.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/14/petraeus-agrees-to-testify-on-libya-before-congressional-committees/
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 09:18:10 AM »
Hmmmmm....  What should one make of this?
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 09:25:00 AM »
Former CIA Director David Petraeus has agreed to testify about the Libya terror attack before the House and Senate intelligence committees, Fox News has learned.

Petraeus had originally been scheduled to testify this Thursday on the burgeoning controversy over the deadly Sept. 11 attack.

That appearance was scuttled, though, after the director abruptly resigned over an extramarital affair.

Lawmakers, though, complained that the scandal was no reason they shouldn't hear from the man at the helm of the CIA when CIA operatives came under attack alongside State Department employees in Benghazi last month.

The logistics of Petraeus' appearance are still being worked out. But a source close to Petraeus said the former four-star general has contacted the CIA, as well as committees in both the House and Senate, to offer his testimony as the former CIA director.

Fox News has learned he is expected to speak off-site to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Friday about his Libya report.

The House side is still being worked out.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/14/petraeus-agrees-to-testify-on-libya-before-congressional-committees/

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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2012, 09:39:19 AM »
Hmmmmm....  What should one make of this?

Either he's decided to do the right thing and salvage his honor...or they've threatened to call him back active duty and courts martial him unless he sings the company song.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 09:57:31 AM »
I think an officer remains under the UCMJ for life, active duty or not. They could court martial him right now. That wouldn't start any riots, would it?
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2012, 10:14:15 AM »
Either he's decided to do the right thing and salvage his honor...or they've threatened to call him back active duty and courts martial him unless he sings the company song.

I guess we'll see when the "leaks" of his testimony come out.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2012, 10:40:42 AM »
Charles Krauthammer writes of blackmail, pure and simple, by the regime to force false testimony from Petraeus about Benghazi.

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And that brings us to the ultimate issue, and that is his testimony on September 13. That’s the thing that connects the two scandals, and that’s the only thing that makes the sex scandal relevant. Otherwise it would be an exercise in sensationalism and voyeurism and nothing else. The reason it’s important is here’s a man who knows the administration holds his fate in its hands, and he gives testimony completely at variance with what the Secretary of Defense had said the day before, at variance with what he’d heard from his station chief in Tripoli, and with everything that we had heard


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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2012, 11:23:16 AM »
Hope he's in a nice safe place under 24-hour protection.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2012, 11:37:52 AM »
The father of Paula Broadwell said that Petraeus' resignation is about a cover up.

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Broadwell's father Paul Kranz, a retired high school basketball coach, suggested that the explosive revelations that led to Petraeus resigning as CIA director, have been used to cover up a bigger scandal.

'This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231770/David-Petraeus-scandal-Paul-Kranz-father-mistress-Paula-Broadwell-stands-daughter.html#ixzz2CDeGBouh
 
 A couple of nights ago, the FBI went to Broadwell's home with bags, boxes and cameras.  Now they are saying that she had a lot of CIA documents.

Did Holder send them in to look for something?  Or did they bring in what they wanted to be found in her home.

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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2012, 11:52:08 AM »
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Broadwell's father Paul Kranz, a retired high school basketball coach, suggested that the explosive revelations that led to Petraeus resigning as CIA director, have been used to cover up a bigger scandal.

'This is about something else entirely, and the truth will come out.'

Like what?  What "bigger scandal" is being covered up?  If he knows something, he should have opened his yap instead of thinking that the compliant propaganda arm of the White House is going to print anything other than hosannas to obinga.

I'm so ****ing sick and tired of the "I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you" attitude of people who like to hoard information.  If this is such a huge thing, then do your damned civic duty and speak the **** up!
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2012, 11:57:53 AM »
Either he's decided to do the right thing and salvage his honor...or they've threatened to call him back active duty and courts martial him unless he sings the company song.

So general, when did you stop beating your wife?  Yeah he is going to be in good shape on this one contempt of congress is heading his way.  I am thinking this is like watching a cat paying with a mouse.  You know how  it is going to end.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2012, 12:04:43 PM »
Yeah he is going to be in good shape on this one contempt of congress is heading his way.  I am thinking this is like watching a cat paying with a mouse.  You know how  it is going to end.

Can you clarify your thoughts on this?  Are you saying Petraeus is the cat?
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2012, 12:20:51 PM »
The father of Paula Broadwell said that Petraeus' resignation is about a cover up.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231770/David-Petraeus-scandal-Paul-Kranz-father-mistress-Paula-Broadwell-stands-daughter.html#ixzz2CDeGBouh
 
 A couple of nights ago, the FBI went to Broadwell's home with bags, boxes and cameras.  Now they are saying that she had a lot of CIA documents.

Did Holder send them in to look for something?  Or did they bring in what they wanted to be found in her home.



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While investigating an email harassment complaint over the summer and this fall, the FBI had found classified information on Broadwell’s computer. The FBI concluded the information did not come from David Petraeus, who was CIA director until his sudden resignation Friday.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/11/13/3662697/paula-broadwell-fbi-search-charlotte.html#storylink=cpy

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A source familiar with the case also told ABC News that Broadwell admitted to the FBI she took documents from secure government buildings. The government demanded that they all be given back, and when federal agents descended on her North Carolina home on Monday night it was a pre-arranged meeting.

Prosecutors are now determining whether to charge Broadwell with a crime, and this morning the FBI and military are pouring over the material.

Turns out the woman Broadwell sent the emails to is Jill Kelley.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2012, 12:26:20 PM »
Can you clarify your thoughts on this?  Are you saying Petraeus is the cat?

No he is the mouse in this piece.  Congress is the cat.  Congress (both sides) will have great sport with this.   He is not in a good postion.  Ike made the jump from military to politics in my life but he is the last one who did.  Generals I think of,  Wesley Clark, and Colon Powell, both have made me go hum, would this guy really have made a good president?  Seems like both were mentioned just like Petraeus as potential candidates at one time or another.  
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2012, 01:07:49 PM »
In one sense, Petraeus should have known better: why work with Chicago scum?

Why agree to be head of the C.I.A. for BIG BRObama?  Still wanted to serve his country?  Okay, but...look at who is in charge!

If he thought he could be more ruthless, more mendacious, more back-stabbing than his employers, then he thought wrong, especially with a marital affair around his neck as future leverage against him.

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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2012, 01:18:46 PM »
Turns out the woman Broadwell sent the emails to is Jill Kelley.

It's coming out that this Jill Kelley and her husband have 11 lawsuits of a financial nature against them...they are several million in debt.  She's the whistleblower, so could she be needing money for some reason?

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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2012, 01:22:40 PM »
No he is the mouse in this piece.  Congress is the cat.  Congress (both sides) will have great sport with this.   He is not in a good postion.  Ike made the jump from military to politics in my life but he is the last one who did.  Generals I think of,  Wesley Clark, and Colon Powell, both have made me go hum, would this guy really have made a good president?  Seems like both were mentioned just like Petraeus as potential candidates at one time or another.  

Okay, got it, thanks.

I personally think that Petraeus still holds the wild cards in this one, if he has the balls and honor to throw them on the table.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2012, 01:25:30 PM »
If he thought he could be more ruthless, more mendacious, more back-stabbing than his employers, then he thought wrong, especially with a marital affair around his neck as future leverage against him.

This may have been why he was chosen and he accepted; unless the timeline is way out of whack.  Blackmailable people are easier to control.  Now that the cat is out of the bag (so to speak), I don't see what would hold Petraeus back from letting all of the dirt fly.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2012, 01:41:58 PM »
This may have been why he was chosen and he accepted; unless the timeline is way out of whack.  Blackmailable people are easier to control.  Now that the cat is out of the bag (so to speak), I don't see what would hold Petraeus back from letting all of the dirt fly.

It would go a long way to explaining why he took a job of lesser stature by going from CENTCOM to ISAF and then chose to take off the uniform and head to the CIA when he SHOULD have been either the Army Chief of Staff or Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2012, 02:08:17 PM »
In one sense, Petraeus should have known better: why work with Chicago scum?

Why agree to be head of the C.I.A. for BIG BRObama?  Still wanted to serve his country?  Okay, but...look at who is in charge!

If he thought he could be more ruthless, more mendacious, more back-stabbing than his employers, then he thought wrong, especially with a marital affair around his neck as future leverage against him.

Arrogance makes you blind.



Obama is just clearing the decks of his enemies, or could be enemies.  Give me a break, since when has  America become so Prudish that a sex scandal with anyone in Government unless a foreign spy would get all this hoopla ?

There are some serious fear out there for our Military Commanders today, not to mention the lower ranks and Chiefs with 3-4 years to retirement.   So much rides on the pension the Military is getting paranoid.

Not just our people in uniform either.  Anyone who works for the government is feeling the hum in the wires.   Those that contract to the military, those that work on our ship yards, down to the hot dog stand owner that has a setup just outside a base, all getting twitchy about their lives if Obama decides to cut money to the military.

I would say this will stop on the upper levels for now, however the lower in rank will be quickly shuffled off to an early retirement with little to no public notice.    Obama has 4 years to PURGE the military disenters or nay Sayers.    

We have never had a leader like Obama, his main fear is a Military Coup, he just may have ducked the bullet this time.  Question is how long can he hold out against the military and angry Citizens ??????

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Re: Petraeus agrees to testify on Libya before congressional committees
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2012, 11:42:48 AM »
So - amazingly - Petraeus seems to be telling the truth about Benghazi, rather than adhering to the official line about intelligence at the time being foggy and that the dumb YouTube video was (perhaps) the catalyst.

So the CIA never has any information about the video being involved, or that the protests/attack were spontaneous: the CIA's information is just the opposite.

After their report goes to the White House and the State Department, the video story appears somehow:

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/16/petraeus-to-testify-knew-libya-was-terrorism-from-start-source-says/
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2012, 05:45:38 PM »
CBS Evening News just reported the testimony as their 6:40 P.M. story, with no mention of the YouTube-video story and a shrug of the shoulders about how the "al-Qaeda/terrorist connection" disappeared from the C.I.A.'s assessment.

The White House denies any editing: well, sure!     :rofl:

Guaranteed: Her Royal Highness Clinton will be blamed along with the State Department.
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