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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2012, 11:15:48 PM »
For someone who's seemingly been here for years and years, Ban still has less than a thousand posts.

Yet he keeps on zinging along...

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6. Repatriation of Wealth is the next frontier

We can't just tax income and gains taxes anymore. We have to work on exacting a wealth tax so we can assess EXISTING wealth, insomuch the same way we assess property taxes. Right now, we essentially restrict ourselves to taxing their interest. It is time to start taxing their entire worth.

This is also done in conjunction with tightening the control of money and securities so it can't readily be transferred offshore or into currency or gold/silver without federal control. This is extremely important, and we must think about doing this immediately. At the very least, California, with its legislative supermajority, should come up with the first workable solution.

I suggest a wealth tax of 15% of entire wealth per year.

That guy really has it in for California, don't he.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2012, 02:53:40 AM »
Someone's been reading up on Marx I see.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2012, 07:56:48 AM »
BantheGOP does an awesome job at exposing who they truly are. Is he a mole? Is he not a mole? Who knows. What's telling is the absence of people countering him.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2012, 09:13:21 AM »
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Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'


 

And seize their goddamed assets as they're going over

Our labor CREATES their wealth while they sit on their asses and do nothing but rob us blind



Institute a WPA style Jobs Program NOW

Raise wages NOW

Start Medicare For All NOW


Problems solved

Welcome to Zimbabwe....
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2012, 09:33:48 AM »
So, a little old lady is living in her home that was purchased and paid off years ago, while she happily lives out her golden years with a modest fixed income of say, $30K.  Say the house is worth $300,000 by now.  Ban comes along and wants to tax her $45,000 per year.  Little old lady dies homeless and frozen, huddled near a streetlamp.

Ban, why do you hate the elderly so much?  Would you do the same to a disabled person?  An unemployed person, like your fellow DUmmies?   

He gets tossed off the island from time to time, just for going too batshit insane totalitarian.  Makes democraticks look bad. 
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2012, 09:35:18 AM »
Quote from: Karin on November 14, 2012, 09:33:48 AM
He gets tossed off the island from time to time, just for going too batshit insane totalitarian.  Makes democraticks look bad. 

I don't see any of those fruitbats disagreeing with him.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2012, 09:41:22 AM »
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Our labor CREATES their wealth while they sit on their asses and do nothing but rob us blind


If you even work(ed). Tell me, DUmmie, if you are working for a wage, just how do "they" rob you blind? Is it because "they" don't pay you what you want, even if you do work? If you actually work, did you not agree to the wage by TAKING the job?

Damn, one election goes their way and look at the little Stalinist s flaunting their stuff for all to see.



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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2012, 09:54:59 AM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on November 13, 2012, 05:43:14 PM
I hate to say it, but maybe we do need to fall economically so that people will see the stupidity of their vote.

I have a certain amount of agreement with that, but on the other hand I've been thinking about the fact that Greece, Italy, and California have been busily failing for most of my adult life, and they still haven't managed to get to the bottom, so I think the process would actually be too slow for any of them to make the connection.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2012, 09:59:22 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 14, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
I have a certain amount of agreement with that, but on the other hand I've been thinking about the fact that Greece, Italy, and California have been busily failing for most of my adult life, and they still haven't managed to get to the bottom, so I think the process would actually be too slow for any of them to make the connection.

Italy and Greece have the EU. California has Uncle Sugar. Who do we, as a nation, have? China? Our debt to income ratio is putting us in a position where we won't be able to borrow shit. Our outgo will soon exceed our income due to interest payments. Do we print it? Trillions of dollars? Hello Wiemar. Do we cut entitlements? And I mean SEVERELY cut entitlements? We're more entitlement-minded than the Greeks I presume. Hello riots, murders, robberies, beatings, etc. from the "you owe me" crowd. Do we severely cut the military, and by severely, I mean GUT the military? Yeah, no negative consequences there.

We're ****ed.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2012, 10:01:45 AM »
Look at the people we observe every day at the DUmp and all their economic "wisdom". Well, that's who's running the country right now. Oh, we have the House of Representatives? Since when has that stopped Obama? He hasn't worked with them in 4 years. I don't know why anyone thinks he'll work with them the next 4. "Working with him" means doing exactly what he wants. It is the Prog way. Logical practice has just lost out to Historically-Failed theory.


This is who we're dealing with here:

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Don't just let them fall off..... give 'em a shove!!
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2012, 11:26:45 AM »
None of these cheesedicks realize that if you take away from "the rich", pretty soon there aren't any "rich" anymore.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2012, 12:13:48 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on November 14, 2012, 11:26:45 AM
None of these cheesedicks realize that if you take away from "the rich", pretty soon there aren't any "rich" anymore.


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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2012, 01:39:57 PM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on November 13, 2012, 07:59:24 PM
Yes dummie you are correct to a point. My labor creates wealth for the bossman. It also creates wealth for me. Know why? Because I am damned productive. I bring in far more than he spends on my labor. Know something else dummies? I like the arrangement I have with the boss. He leaves me alone, I make him money, he pays me quite well for that.

Sounds good to me.

Now if I get the ass and decide I ain't getting compensated fairly, I can go to his competitor. Know what the boss would do? He would move heaven and earth to keep me as long as it's reasonable.  See we got an unwritten agreement. I make the boss money, he takes care of me. He quits doing that, I'm gone. Then he don't make money. So it is in his best interest to keep me happy. Now let's look at you dummies. You view your jobs as just that... jobs. You do just enough to keep yourself employed. And when times are tough, you are the first to be let go. Simple fact.

Guess what is gonna happen in the next four years? Yep... you marginal employees are gonna go to the unemployment line. You wanted it. You voted for. You got it and NOW YOU OWN IT!!!!!

I have no sympathy. Suck it and die dummies. You are gonna become slaves, like the blacks, and you don't even know it. Sooner or later the free ride is gonna end. Then you will be ill prepared to deal with it. Then you are gonna riot. Then you are gonna starve if you don't get your ass shot off first.   :loser:

Diesel Driver, in another thread, said it best: Hard times are survived by hard people... and you dummies don't qualify.

When I gave notice at my last job, they told me that I was going to be offered a promotion at my next review (which would have been a few weeks later) and asked if there was anything they could do to make me stay.  I was going back to school for a different career, so I didn't take their offer.  On my last day though, my boss told me that if nursing didn't work out, or if it wasn't what I expected I should come back and she would find a job for me.  That was a really amazing feeling, and I hope to make that type of impression at every job I work at. 
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2012, 02:30:31 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on November 14, 2012, 09:59:22 AM
Italy and Greece have the EU. California has Uncle Sugar. Who do we, as a nation, have? China? Our debt to income ratio is putting us in a position where we won't be able to borrow shit. Our outgo will soon exceed our income due to interest payments. Do we print it? Trillions of dollars? Hello Wiemar. Do we cut entitlements? And I mean SEVERELY cut entitlements? We're more entitlement-minded than the Greeks I presume. Hello riots, murders, robberies, beatings, etc. from the "you owe me" crowd. Do we severely cut the military, and by severely, I mean GUT the military? Yeah, no negative consequences there.

We're ****ed.

Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with the destination, I just think it'll be more of a long, slow, painful process than a quick cathartic one, kind of like what happened to England post WW2 except without the backstop of the US to stop the slide into the abyss.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2012, 02:33:51 PM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 14, 2012, 02:30:31 PM
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with the destination, I just think it'll be more of a long, slow, painful process than a quick cathartic one, kind of like what happened to England post WW2 except without the backstop of the US to stop the slide into the abyss.

Think Europe when Rome fell. All the scenarios you mentioned, Greece, Germany and Japan circa 1945, California, etc., all had a financial "support group" (EU, Marshall Plan, the U.S.). In this case, there is no support group, and if there is, there isn't one near big enough.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2012, 03:21:21 PM »
DUmmies always forget history or they never learned it or they just block it out, but it was the rich who kept America from going broke early in our history.

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Who will backstop America this time, China ? yeah right. 
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2012, 03:56:47 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on November 14, 2012, 09:59:22 AM
Italy and Greece have the EU. California has Uncle Sugar. Who do we, as a nation, have? China? Our debt to income ratio is putting us in a position where we won't be able to borrow shit. Our outgo will soon exceed our income due to interest payments. Do we print it? Trillions of dollars? Hello Wiemar. Do we cut entitlements? And I mean SEVERELY cut entitlements? We're more entitlement-minded than the Greeks I presume. Hello riots, murders, robberies, beatings, etc. from the "you owe me" crowd. Do we severely cut the military, and by severely, I mean GUT the military? Yeah, no negative consequences there.

We're ****ed.

I say cut entitlements severely. The entitlement crowd could stand to lose a little weight both literally and otherwise; the military however can not.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2012, 04:05:09 PM »
Quote from: jtyangel on November 14, 2012, 03:56:47 PM
I say cut entitlements severely. The entitlement crowd could stand to lose a little weight both literally and otherwise; the military however can not.

The military has suffered cut after cut since the mid 70's while the entitlement crowd has grown and grown.....yep, cut the entitlement crowd to the bone like they've done the military.

I have need of a strong military....got no need of deadbeats.
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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2012, 04:39:42 PM »
Okay let me see if I can figure out how this works. The little DUmmie is busy making widgets. We don't know how or why or where but he's happy because he has no boss. We don't know where the materials for the widgets came from. We don't even know where the initial capital came from to buy widget making tools & materials, but that doesn't matter except we know it didn't come from the widget making DUmmie. So after laboring for years, months, days, hours...whatever a DUmmie thinks is hardship, along comes a rich person and steals all the money the DUmmie made from a widget that has no purpose?

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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2012, 08:11:08 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on November 14, 2012, 01:39:57 PM
When I gave notice at my last job, they told me that I was going to be offered a promotion at my next review (which would have been a few weeks later) and asked if there was anything they could do to make me stay.  I was going back to school for a different career, so I didn't take their offer.  On my last day though, my boss told me that if nursing didn't work out, or if it wasn't what I expected I should come back and she would find a job for me.  That was a really amazing feeling, and I hope to make that type of impression at every job I work at.

Excellent. A young person like you will always find success in this country.

Just don't allow yourself to buy into the post-election doom and gloom you read on political sites like this, and you'll do great.

Be aware that the gloomers and the doomers have been around since the Revolutionary War.

They just never had a free soapbox until algore invented the internet.

DUmp democrats are the ultimate gloom-and-doomers because for deadbeats like them it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

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Re: Let RICH PEOPLE fall off the 'FISCAL CLIFF'
« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2012, 08:50:45 AM »
You know, it's getting harder and harder to make a fortune robbing poor people....... :tongue:
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