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What I wish the GOP would do.
« on: November 08, 2012, 07:28:56 AM »
It has been on the back burner because of the election, but I am sure we all know about the debt ceiling nonsense that is coming up.

What I want the Republicans to do is draft a budget take it to Harry Reid and tell them that is the debt ceiling deal. Tell them that they will shut down the government if no budget is passed. Seriously what does the GOP have to lose if the government were to be shut down anyway?

 
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2012, 11:04:13 AM »
I think they gave it away too easily before when they gave Obama enough money to get past the election. 

Screw this continuing resolution BS.  Demand a budget or shut it down.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2012, 11:08:53 AM »
I'm afraid given what Boehner is saying today...he's not only going to let the Dems do what they want in regards to the debt ceiling and the budget...but he's going to thank them and not even get kissed.

I have no problem with them shutting down the Government...they have nothing to lose and Obama has nothing to gain from it.

But looking at who we've got at the top of the food chain in the House...I'm not optimistic it will happen.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2012, 11:20:30 AM »
I'm torn on this.  The conservative in me says hell no and to call their bluff and the mom in me says that it's time for them to learn the results of cause and effect. 
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2012, 11:34:00 AM »
If it were up to me, I'd give them what they want. Want a debt ceiling increase? Fine, how about 5 gazillion dollars. Hell, why have one at all. Borrow it all. Who cares? Obviously not the American electorate. Let Bernake print all the money he wants. Sequestration? Hey, Obama, you signed it. Let it come.

If they want to live in Obamatopia, let them have it. Let them see exactly what their policies will bring. The quicker the better.

Let it burn.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2012, 11:42:37 AM »
How long did it take Rome to recover?
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2012, 11:57:49 AM »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 08, 2012, 11:08:53 AM
I'm afraid given what Boehner is saying today...he's not only going to let the Dems do what they want in regards to the debt ceiling and the budget...but he's going to thank them and not even get kissed.

I have no problem with them shutting down the Government...they have nothing to lose and Obama has nothing to gain from it.

But looking at who we've got at the top of the food chain in the House...I'm not optimistic it will happen.

He said something about wanting 0bama to come lead them. Game over folks. We lose.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2012, 12:00:24 PM »
I am a conservative or to put it in terms of the constitution and Originalist. The last two elections really aggravated me. I knew we were in trouble when the Washington Repubs gave us two moderates, McCain and Romney. This whole situation has annoyed me to the point where I down loaded a voter registration form today. I'm changing my party affiliation from Republican to Conservative.

the Republicans are a lost party with no direction right now. They are too easily influenced. What is the old saying?They are reactive rather than proactive which in turn creates the see saw or flip flop mentality we saw in the Romney campaign this election cycle.

I am still going to fight to try and keep this country as a Constiutional Republic regardless of how socialistic it wants to become. Our form of government envisioned by the founding fathers is too important to let one man wreck it..........
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2012, 12:54:36 PM »
Quote from: ollie on November 08, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
I am a conservative or to put it in terms of the constitution and Originalist. The last two elections really aggravated me. I knew we were in trouble when the Washington Repubs gave us two moderates, McCain and Romney. This whole situation has annoyed me to the point where I down loaded a voter registration form today. I'm changing my party affiliation from Republican to Conservative.

the Republicans are a lost party with no direction right now. They are too easily influenced. What is the old saying?They are reactive rather than proactive which in turn creates the see saw or flip flop mentality we saw in the Romney campaign this election cycle.

I am still going to fight to try and keep this country as a Constiutional Republic regardless of how socialistic it wants to become. Our form of government envisioned by the founding fathers is too important to let one man wreck it..........

It's not just the Washington GOP that gave us Romney and McCain, the liberal media drove them to victory in their own way.  They were supported by the media, and their more conservative opponents were attacked relentlessly.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2012, 01:23:37 PM »
That's why I say we can bitch and moan about it, or help bring about change. Find every way actively to get involved.

And screw the MSM....we have better vehicles for getting our voices out. I will say this until I am blue in the face. Get out and get active.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 01:28:20 PM »
Quote from: txradioguy on November 08, 2012, 11:08:53 AM
I'm afraid given what Boehner is saying today...he's not only going to let the Dems do what they want in regards to the debt ceiling and the budget...but he's going to thank them and not even get kissed.

I have no problem with them shutting down the Government...they have nothing to lose and Obama has nothing to gain from it.

But looking at who we've got at the top of the food chain in the House...I'm not optimistic it will happen.

After Obama's reelection speech about working together I think Boehner saw an opportunity to showcase early on whether Obama is for real or full of beans and going to do things his way.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 01:31:57 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on November 08, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
After Obama's reelection speech about working together I think Boehner saw an opportunity to showcase early on whether Obama is for real or full of beans and going to do things his way.

I actually think you may be onto something.  It's a "put up, or shut up" moment.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 02:00:56 PM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on November 08, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
I actually think you may be onto something.  It's a "put up, or shut up" moment.

That's the way I see it. The house being under Republican control is going to get the blame on most things eventually so give the ball to the President and see what he does. besides it really doesn't matter one iota what the house does as long as they keep getting waylaid by the Senate which the Dems control and the VP through the majority lead can push legislation.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 02:53:35 PM »
Quote from: Dori on November 08, 2012, 11:20:30 AM
I'm torn on this.  The conservative in me says hell no and to call their bluff and the mom in me says that it's time for them to learn the results of cause and effect. 

They won't put two and two together even after ten years of disaster. They'll continue to blame others for their policy failures. That is typical historically speaking. I think the Republicans in the house need to dig in and fight to the last man. In two years we'll get more conservatives in and we wont make thhe same mistakes twice. Our next presidential candidate will be a rockstar.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2012, 07:00:42 PM »
Quote from: Zeus on November 08, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
After Obama's reelection speech about working together I think Boehner saw an opportunity to showcase early on whether Obama is for real or full of beans and going to do things his way.

I think Boehner and the gang are about to fold like a house of cards.

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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 12:59:23 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 08, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
I think Boehner and the gang are about to fold like a house of cards.



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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 04:19:26 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 08, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
I think Boehner and the gang are about to fold like a house of cards.



I think they are all running scared because they are buying the media meme now that the GOP platform scares people.   

The problem is the MSM, and as Jason already stated, the MSM is the archaic way of reaching people.   The GOP needs better marketing - fresh young 21st century ideas of getting their message straight to the people and just avoiding the MSM altogether.

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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2012, 10:56:44 AM »
Quote from: Kimberly on November 08, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
If it were up to me, I'd give them what they want. Want a debt ceiling increase? Fine, how about 5 gazillion dollars. Hell, why have one at all. Borrow it all. Who cares? Obviously not the American electorate. Let Bernake print all the money he wants. Sequestration? Hey, Obama, you signed it. Let it come.

If they want to live in Obamatopia, let them have it. Let them see exactly what their policies will bring. The quicker the better.

Let it burn.

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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2012, 12:46:41 PM »
Quote from: formerlurker on November 09, 2012, 04:19:26 AM
I think they are all running scared because they are buying the media meme now that the GOP platform scares people.    

The squishy spined old guard has always been this way.  Which is why they need to be fired.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 01:46:50 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on November 09, 2012, 10:56:44 AM
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Exactly. I think I'll survive this, but, as I've said, let the takers eat that shit sandwich.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 02:01:47 PM »
Quote from: Wineslob on November 09, 2012, 01:46:50 PM

Exactly. I think I'll survive this, but, as I've said, let the takers eat that shit sandwich.

I think I'll be okay too, but for sure I don't plan on buying anything for the next four years, other than what I absolutely need.  When I was younger, I spent many a lean year pinching pennies and haven't forgotten how.


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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2012, 07:36:16 PM »
Quote from: wasp69 on November 09, 2012, 12:46:41 PM
The squishy spined old guard has always been this way.  Which is why they need to be fired upon.

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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2012, 04:34:47 PM »
Quote from: Kimberly on November 08, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
If it were up to me, I'd give them what they want. Want a debt ceiling increase? Fine, how about 5 gazillion dollars. Hell, why have one at all. Borrow it all. Who cares? Obviously not the American electorate. Let Bernake print all the money he wants. Sequestration? Hey, Obama, you signed it. Let it come.

If they want to live in Obamatopia, let them have it. Let them see exactly what their policies will bring. The quicker the better.

Let it burn.

I have to agree with you. The country is now currently center-left and it is going to have to get much worse before they have a change of heart.  :cheersmate:
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
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Re: What I wish the GOP would do.
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2012, 06:29:53 PM »
Let them raise taxes....won't stop the Thelma and Louise express
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