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Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« on: November 03, 2012, 10:09:30 PM »
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Early in Obama's term there was talk of working with the Congress and the FCC to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine, which was killed by Reagan. This talk died quickly after the mewing cry of conservative media types like Limpballs and was never heard again. I am FIRMLY convinced that Obama's first term would be radically different if he had fought to reinstitute what the conservatives fear most...an informed populace with information from both sides of an issue. Imagine Faux News having, by law, to present counterfactual information to their endless propaganda.

With the Fairness Doctrine in place the Obamacare fight and just about every other issue would have had either an easier path or different conclusion.

Vast swathes of the American public are lemmings to the information they receive. Obama's biggest initial mistake was not securing a foothold in the information those individuals tend to unquestioningly soak up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021704172

Yeah too bad 0bama missed his chance to silence his opposition. I'm sure that will be in the second term when he has more flexibility.
I do hope though if you goons get your wish and the "Fairness Doctrine" gets brought back that it effects the internet and $kimmer has to allow freepers at DU.

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1. It could have helped with talk radio

But would have done nothing about Fox News, as it cable isn't regulated by the FCC.

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9. The AM talk radio listeners vote too

Ceding any territory to the conservatives as being "lost" is a mistake. Give them NO quarter, NO rest. We must keep their propaganda in check at any and all levels.

You could try having your own radio shows. Oh wait you idiots did and it flopped big time.  :-)

Why is it the left is so threatened that the opposition has a voice? Do they really believe their own lies that Rush Limbaugh controls us? We would be liberals if only Rush didn't brainwash us? Seriously the left is full of morons.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 10:18:39 PM »
It's a scam on their part.

The Fairness Doctrine gets passed, Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz, Levin, et al have to give equal time to moonbats, or their stations do.

They take the money and run and start a RW talk show channel.

Libs take over the radio.

Advertisers pull out, people stop listening, ratings drop.

Obama claims talk radio is "too big to fail" and takes it over.

Voila. Propaganda machine.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 10:30:18 PM »
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Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake


 
Early in Obama's term there was talk of working with the Congress and the FCC to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine, which was killed by Reagan. This talk died quickly after the mewing cry of conservative media types like Limpballs and was never heard again. I am FIRMLY convinced that Obama's first term would be radically different if he had fought to reinstitute what the conservatives fear most...an informed populace with information from both sides of an issue. Imagine Faux News having, by law, to present counterfactual information to their endless propaganda.

With the Fairness Doctrine in place the Obamacare fight and just about every other issue would have had either an easier path or different conclusion.

Vast swathes of the American public are lemmings to the information they receive. Obama's biggest initial mistake was not securing a foothold in the information those individuals tend to unquestioningly soak up.

I try to understand some of these names they use like Limpballs and Faux News.

Faux News would literally be translated as Fake News. I've never seen any evidence of this by Fox, but their hero Dan Rather and his team displayed it in spades. Which I realize makes me a racist. Either because I used the word 'spades' or because I said something against a white man that they worship or because I don't won't to give them what I've worked for.

And Limpballs sounds somewhat impotent which just seems to be strange to call when the person so named stays near the top of news radio and keeps the Democrats in tears nonstop. Maybe Rush Lumpsofballs would be better.

I miss the names like Chimp McCokeSpoon. They weren't true. They didn't make much sense. But at least they had some zip to them.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 10:35:38 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 03, 2012, 10:09:30 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021704172

Why is it the left is so threatened that the opposition has a voice? Do they really believe their own lies that Rush Limbaugh controls us? We would be liberals if only Rush didn't brainwash us? Seriously the left is full of morons.

Probably because we never had a voice until Rush Limbaugh came along on radio and FOX on cable.

I don't know how Reagan won with just the NYSlimes and the ABC channels pumping their propaganda.  Maybe they weren't as partisan before, but I know Reagan would tell the reporters; "there you go again".  


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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2012, 11:33:49 PM »
Ugh.. not 'fairness doctrine' again....  :whatever:

Once again, the left shows the world that they are helpless without government holding their collective hands.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 11:38:02 PM »
This is just another liberal wet dream. The MSM TV media does not want the fairness doctrine. Then they would have to actually give the other side equal time.

That just ain't gonna happen.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2012, 11:44:09 PM »
They want the "Fairness Doctrine" because they know they can use it to silence any news source that disagrees with them.  It won't be enough to have a dissenting voice, because the dissenting voice is a "corporate leftist" and the anarchists are demanding their fair share of the time, and so are the democrastic socialists.  In other words, make it so that no one who disagrees with the left can have a voice in the media.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2012, 11:44:59 PM »
The Left simply cannot tolerate Free Speech.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2012, 11:52:37 PM »
It's pure tyranny. If people don't want to listen then they can switch off the radio or change the station. Same goes for the TV. If people really believed that FOX news or MSNBC was nothing more then propaganda then the free market would send them to bankruptcy. Don't get me wrong, I turn to MSNBC just to see how upset I can get at Liberals. Plus, it invigorates my debate. However, I would never mandate how MSNBC should operate. That's the difference in philosophy, the liberals want to travel into my pond and force me to conform to their horse dump.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 12:06:45 AM »
Quote from: cattlebaron on November 03, 2012, 11:52:37 PM
It's pure tyranny. If people don't want to listen then they can switch off the radio or change the station. Same goes for the TV. If people really believed that FOX news or MSNBC was nothing more then propaganda then the free market would send them to bankruptcy. Don't get me wrong, I turn to MSNBC just to see how upset I can get at Liberals. Plus, it invigorates my debate. However, I would never mandate how MSNBC should operate. That's the difference in philosophy, the liberals want to travel into my pond and force me to conform to their horse dump.

So you are one of MSNBC's ten viewers?   :tongue: :tongue:
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 12:16:17 AM »
No wonder they worship Chavez. 
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 01:33:24 AM »
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Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake


 
Early in Obama's term there was talk of working with the Congress and the FCC to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine, which was killed by Reagan. This talk died quickly after the mewing cry of conservative media types like Limpballs and was never heard again. I am FIRMLY convinced that Obama's first term would be radically different if he had fought to reinstitute what the conservatives fear most...an informed populace with information from both sides of an issue. Imagine Faux News having, by law, to present counterfactual information to their endless propaganda.

Imagine, every alphabet, MSLSD, Bill Maher, Screaming Mikey Malloy...all of them would have to entertain equal Conservative counterpoint.  Imagine Screaming Mikey being forced to debate topics with Victor Davis Hanson?   Al Sharpton being forced to stammer and elucidate (we much) a topic sitting next to Thomas Sowell.  Getting the cold sweats yet?

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With the Fairness Doctrine in place the Obamacare fight and just about every other issue would have had either an easier path or different conclusion.

If only MSLSD had more viewers than a Knoxville UHF affiliate, hmmmm?  Imagine the possibilities.

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Vast swathes of the American public are lemmings to the information they receive. Obama's biggest initial mistake was not securing a foothold in the information those individuals tend to unquestioningly soak up.

That choice of Air America   :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:  didn't work out so well.  When ideas and information have to compete in a free, completely fair environment, dumb and propaganda always fails, idiot.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 01:37:25 AM »
Go ahead and bring it back.

I'll retire tomorrow and submit my resume to MSNBC to be the new co Anchor with Chris Matthews on Hardball.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2012, 01:43:51 AM »
Quote from: I_B_Perky on November 04, 2012, 12:06:45 AM
So you are one of MSNBC's ten viewers?   :tongue: :tongue:

Gosh...I hope not. lol. Watching Rachel Maddows is like experiencing the apocalypse with a cup of cold coffee.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2012, 05:51:47 AM »
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Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake


 
Early in Obama's term there was talk of working with the Congress and the FCC to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine, which was killed by Reagan. This talk died quickly after the mewing cry of conservative media types like Limpballs and was never heard again. I am FIRMLY convinced that Obama's first term would be radically different if he had fought to reinstitute what the conservatives fear most...an informed populace with information from both sides of an issue. Imagine Faux News having, by law, to present counterfactual information to their endless propaganda.
wouldn't that make them MSNBC?
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2012, 08:30:53 AM »
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Imagine Faux News having, by law, to present counterfactual information

Obviously a little Freudian slip there, Big Don.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2012, 09:02:02 AM »
It is interesting to watch the mask fall of of the true totalitarians, the left, the democrat party.

I wonder how well it would go over if President Romney installed the fairness doctrine on the rest of the media? Screams of fascism. Because it is not fascism if the left does it...and the left always does it.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2012, 09:02:41 AM »
I'm not sure what the left hates more, the 1st or 2nd amendment?

Given they could kill either, which one do you think they would?
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2012, 09:03:28 AM »
Quote from: Ogre on November 04, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
I'm not sure what the left hates more, the 1st or 2nd amendment?

Given they could kill either, which one do you think they would?


The second because without the second you can take away all the rest that much easier.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2012, 09:12:22 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 04, 2012, 09:03:28 AM
The second because without the second you can take away all the rest that much easier.

That makes sense, fortunately it would take a very left leaning USSC to mount an attack on the second, and the "O" isn't gonna be in office long enough for that to happen.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2012, 09:16:24 AM »
Quote from: Ogre on November 04, 2012, 09:12:22 AM
That makes sense, fortunately it would take a very left leaning USSC to mount an attack on the second, and the "O" isn't gonna be in office long enough for that to happen.

They did allow 0bamacare to stand, don't be so sure the SC will be there for us if it comes down to it. Kennedy could go either way, and Roberts may just run the ball into the endzone for the dems again.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2012, 09:18:43 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 04, 2012, 09:16:24 AM
They did allow 0bamacare to stand, don't be so sure the SC will be there for us if it comes down to it. Kennedy could go either way, and Roberts may just run the ball into the endzone for the dems again.



I was appalled by his decision, but at the same time, he was also booting it back to Congress with a 'You broke it, you fix it' note attached.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2012, 09:21:40 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 04, 2012, 09:18:43 AM
I was appalled by his decision, but at the same time, he was also booting it back to Congress with a 'You broke it, you fix it' note attached.

I'm not intending to hijack another thread with this.  :-)

I brought it up to point out that I do not trust the SC to protect any amendments at all, especially the second.

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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2012, 09:22:10 AM »
Quote from: Freeper on November 04, 2012, 09:16:24 AM
They did allow 0bamacare to stand, don't be so sure the SC will be there for us if it comes down to it. Kennedy could go either way, and Roberts may just run the ball into the endzone for the dems again.

It is possible, but I think when it really comes push to shovel Roberts and Kennedy will not rule against the Second.  That's just my opinion and I pray that it is correct.
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Re: Fairness Doctrine - Obama's 1st Mistake
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2012, 09:25:39 AM »
Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on November 04, 2012, 09:18:43 AM
I was appalled by his decision, but at the same time, he was also booting it back to Congress with a 'You broke it, you fix it' note attached.

I agree with what you say, but I am double-appalled by Roberts thinking there is a chance an adult and responsible action will come out of congress.  He had a chance to right the ultimate wrong but he decided to take the philosophical role of Chief Punter instead.
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