primitives wonder why impeachment was taken off the table

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3359235

Oh my.

The primitives appear to have moved on from "what will be" to "what could have been."

mmonk  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:04 PM
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What are your theories as to why impeachment was taken off the table?
   
We are going to suffer the consequences for a long time and people like myself will trust few to no one in government or on the air.

Texas Explorer  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:05 PM
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1. Anthrax? Edited: Military Grade Anthrax?

mmonk  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:06 PM
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2. Interesting.

nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:19 PM
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16. Not a theory for me... the fear in the House and Senate is real and palpable

I had that talk with a US senator some years back...

Off the record, this is it

One suspects the Zbigniew primitive told a bouncy there, about talking with a U.S. Senator.

uppityperson  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:32 PM
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25. Interesting.
   
And I consider you not one of the "conspiracy crowd". I can understand the fear.

nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:36 PM
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27. Trust me that conversation was somewhat unnerving but the real fear started not with Anthrax, but with Paul Wellstone

And if you paid attention (and you have) you know they really started folding after Wellstone's funeral

Problem, as he put it, is... message received but they cannot prove it LEGALLY.

Hubert Flottz  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:07 PM
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3. Fear...
   
It makes me sick to think about what cowards we have in Washington.

Oh my.  And yet the primitives can post without fear in George Bush's America.

It's a very large bonfire.

The staging primitive has number one and number two right, but number three is preposterous:

Stagecoach  (67 posts) Thu May-29-08 04:46 PM
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28. My feelings
   
#1, they realize the majority in the Senate is razor-thin, and were probably afraid that it would cause the majority to go back to the GOP this election cycle.

#2, along the lines of #1, for some reason I think the leaders (Pelosi, Reid, etc.) seem to have this line of thinking of, "we don't want to go after the administration....that'll upset 85% of the electorate". In other words they think the Bush administration has more public support than it actually has.

#3, if you recall a couple of days after the 2006 election, Bush met with Pelosi & Reid. Also, if you recall, the selling point during the run-up of that election from the Democratic Party was "oversight" and to get us out of Iraq. I believe in that meeting the impeachment issue may have been brought up, and I wouldn't be surprised Bush didn't offer up the following, "I'll work on an exit strategy on Iraq if you don't start any sort of investigations".....and since then, Bush has reneged on that, but Pelosi & Reid don't have the courage to do anything, and Bush knows that, going back to #2....they're paranoid that they'll receive a backlash for doing so.

indie_ana_500  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 08:21 PM
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49. Proving a criminal act by a President is pert near impossible. Knowing something occurred, or thinking something occurred, is very different from proving it. Even if you have SOME evidence, the level of evidence one would need for impeachment is mind boggling. Add to that the fact that the Congress is still pretty much split 50-50 Republican-Democrat...well, you can see the problem with getting votes for impeachment.

At this stage, we have so many problems, and the perpetrators are almost out of office, that the country would end up spending a couple of years trying to impeach people who are out of office. Which would take time and money away from other very serious concerns.

The evidence just doesn't seem to be there. Where are the audio tapes? Where are the statements under oath of illegal acts?

The Baltimorean landlord projects:

Husb2Sparkly  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Fri May-30-08 10:23 AM
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53. Shit-In-Your-Pants Fear
   
Fear of physical harm to self and/or family

Fear of political backlash

We are controlled by no kidding, honest to god, I ain't kidding, really true, literal, criminals and thugs who will stop at nothing to win.

[Lord Undies]

We are controlled by no kidding, honest to god, I ain't kidding, really true, literal, criminals and thugs who will stop at nothing to win.

I suppose this primitive speaks of democrats in congress.  If one reads between the lines, it is more important to the democrats to stay in office at all cost while they tremble in fear and allow themselves to be blackmailed than to do the right thing. 

Decent honorable people do not allow themselves to be threatened and blackmailed.  Decent honorable people would stand up and tell the truth while the consequences be damned.  Decent and honorable people would think it is more important to save the integrity of our nation than it is to save their chair in congress, which is rendered unless by fear and blackmail.   

[jukin]

I'll stick with there has been no crime committed.

[Wretched Excess]

because there are limits to even nancy pelosi's lunacy.

[FlaGator]

I'll give them a hint. They will never hear someone on their TV sets say "I'll take Crimes Committed by the Bush Administration for a hundred, Alex"

[Chris_]

because there are limits to even nancy pelosi's lunacy.

And a bar set that low should tell them something.  Also, the assertion there were "no investigations" is pure balderdash.  I can't find the link, but I am sure at one time, not long after the socialists took control in 2006, there were something like 30 or 40 investigations underway.  In fact, other than bailing out people who can't do basic math, this congress has done NOTHING but investigate.

[tuolumnejim]

because there are limits to even nancy pelosi's lunacy.

Don't bet on it, I've had the displeasure of meeting her many years ago and she was as nuts then as now. 

[Carl]

nadinbrzezinski  Donating Member  (1000+ posts) Thu May-29-08 04:36 PM
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27. Trust me that conversation was somewhat unnerving but the real fear started not with Anthrax, but with Paul Wellstone

And if you paid attention (and you have) you know they really started folding after Wellstone's funeral

Problem, as he put it, is... message received but they cannot prove it LEGALLY.

No matter how you try to rewrite it Wellstones funeral showed the country one thing and that was the lefts desire to put politics above any sense of decency.

The mask came off and what was under was ugly..you know it so you try now to pretend it wasn`t so.

That is what DUmmies want though.
You deny all reality to live a life of self inflicted misery.