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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2012, 12:15:03 PM »
And his little dog too!

Don't you think the dog has been through enough already?  Imagine the smell, living in a DUmbass home. 

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2012, 12:21:18 PM »
And his little dog too!

Nice Wizard of Oz reference, Jess!
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2012, 12:28:22 PM »
Don't you think the dog has been through enough already?  Imagine the smell, living in a DUmbass home. 

I agree.  I just thought the reference would be funny.  I am against dogs being tasered.  lol
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2012, 12:34:20 PM »
Why would a police officer want all that body odor inside his police car?

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2012, 12:39:46 PM »
I bet it's just as true as this entire bouncy.   :naughty:

22lb. service dog?   :confused:  
Hell, my one of my Dachshunds weighs more than that.  He could be a "seeing eye wiener" service dog!   :lmao:

All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2012, 12:47:42 PM »
I agree.  I just thought the reference would be funny.  I am against dogs being tasered.  lol

I know the reference  :-).

I'm known for saying, "Screw you and the horse you rode in on and your little dog too".

But I want you to remember in the future -- "these things must be done delicately or you'll hurt the spell"

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2012, 01:11:16 PM »
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 It's worked well for many years, but my wife's a 3rd degree black belt in Tang Soo Do, so I know she'll have my back if necessary.

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2012, 01:56:37 PM »
All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.

Sometimes, and this is especially true for the DUmb****s, it's the only friend those individuals have.  That is the service.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2012, 02:11:51 PM »
All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.

Certificates are meaningless. There are no national certification programs in the US.

The current definition of "service animal" according to the ADA is found here: http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm.

"A service animal is a dog that is individually trained to do work or perform tasks for a person with a disability."

Service animals are defined as dogs that are individually trained to do work or perform tasks for people with disabilities. Examples of such work or tasks include guiding people who are blind, alerting people who are deaf, pulling a wheelchair, alerting and protecting a person who is having a seizure, reminding a person with mental illness to take prescribed medications, calming a person with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) during an anxiety attack, or performing other duties. Service animals are working animals, not pets. The work or task a dog has been trained to provide must be directly related to the person’s disability. Dogs whose sole function is to provide comfort or emotional support do not qualify as service animals under the ADA."
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As a business owner or employee, you can ask a dog owner what kind of service dog it is, and what tasks the dog performs. If the dog meets the legal definition of "service animal", you must allow access unless its presence creates a health or safety risk.

Small dogs certainly have a place. The hearing dog training program I am working with prefers dogs under 20 pounds. I am really making them work training a big dog for me!
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2012, 02:20:39 PM »
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With my cane and service dog, I headed straight for the cop and made it clear that she was NOT a problem and he should leave her alone.

It looks like DUmmy FruitLoops found the only police officer in the entire Northeast who never went to the police academy.

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2012, 02:58:02 PM »
A twenty-two pound seeing-eye dog?

If it were true, that blind guy would be bumping into a lot of stuff.

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2012, 03:10:09 PM »
Apparently, according to my co-worker, they are therapy dogs, for people who are clinically depressed...I call BS, but what do I know?? :shucks:
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2012, 03:26:12 PM »
Apparently, according to my co-worker, they are therapy dogs, for people who are clinically depressed...I call BS, but what do I know?? :shucks:

seahorse,

There are three kinds of therapeutic dogs for people with mental/behavioral handicaps:

1. Service dogs: Patients with PTSD, other stress disorders, or severe anxiety can use dogs trained to recognize anxiety attacks and respond by reassuring and protecting the owner. These dogs are ADA-compliant "service animals".

2. Therapy dogs: Used by therapists in group or individual therapy, these dogs are not "service animals".

3. Companion animals: Privately owned, "pets". These dogs are not trained to perform tasks, but their presence is beneficial to people with anxiety, depression, or stress disorders. Not "service animals" according to the ADA.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2012, 03:42:46 PM »
seahorse,

There are three kinds of therapeutic dogs for people with mental/behavioral handicaps:

1. Service dogs: Patients with PTSD, other stress disorders, or severe anxiety can use dogs trained to recognize anxiety attacks and respond by reassuring and protecting the owner. These dogs are ADA-compliant "service animals".

2. Therapy dogs: Used by therapists in group or individual therapy, these dogs are not "service animals".

3. Companion animals: Privately owned, "pets". These dogs are not trained to perform tasks, but their presence is beneficial to people with anxiety, depression, or stress disorders. Not "service animals" according to the ADA.
 

That is okay, but all of a sudden, everyone is coming in with the family pet, and calling it their "therapy dog". According to Walmart policy,we can ask, but cannot ask for papers or proof. Once the customer says yes, it is a service dog, there is nothing the store can do...The policy really hurts the people who have physical, mentally or emotional handicap and really need that extra help.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2012, 03:45:43 PM »
That is okay, but all of a sudden, everyone is coming in with the family pet, and calling it their "therapy dog". According to Walmart policy,we can ask, but cannot ask for papers or proof. Once the customer says yes, it is a service dog, there is nothing the store can do...The policy really hurts the people who have physical, mentally or emotional handicap and really need that extra help.


It's not even Walmart.  It's happening every where these days.  We were at the outlet mall a couple weeks ago and some lady had a small dog in a "dog purse".  Your dog isn't your child, you can leave it at home.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2012, 03:56:38 PM »
It's not even Walmart.  It's happening every where these days.  We were at the outlet mall a couple weeks ago and some lady had a small dog in a "dog purse".  Your dog isn't your child, you can leave it at home.
When it comes to training a ADA compliant service dog, are  they are trained to to know the difference between a excited child, and a potential threat?
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2012, 04:11:05 PM »
When it comes to training a ADA compliant service dog, are  they are trained to to know the difference between a excited child, and a potential threat?

Service dogs are not trained to recognize threats, like guard dogs are. Service dogs are trained to perform specific tasks, guide the owner, or identify things in the environment and respond with a "programmed" action.

An example would be: a hearing dog may be trained to respond to a smoke alarm by running to the owner and headbutting him. The owner is trained to know being headbutted by the dog means the smoke detector is going off.

A service dog, depending on training, would either ignore an excited child, respond as trained, or act like any other dog does around an excited child.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2012, 04:14:23 PM »
              

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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2012, 04:43:35 PM »
All of a sudden I have noticed all types of dogs with service dog permits on them. Even little dogs. I think they are giving the permits out to about any dog and any person.....sometimes my workplace looks like PetCo. I'm not sure what type of service these dog provide.

I'm not so sure we want to either.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2012, 04:45:21 PM »
That's like General Tso's Chicken, only with slivered almonds. Right?



I know I have heard of Kempo and Tae Kwan Do Karate but I have not heard of that style. Probably another Tit or 11BooBoo. Another bouncy failure.
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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2012, 06:22:38 PM »
That is okay, but all of a sudden, everyone is coming in with the family pet, and calling it their "therapy dog". According to Walmart policy,we can ask, but cannot ask for papers or proof. Once the customer says yes, it is a service dog, there is nothing the store can do...The policy really hurts the people who have physical, mentally or emotional handicap and really need that extra help.



It's seems to be popular.

In Nevada there is a small certficate with a NV state stamp inside a clear pouch on the vest on the dog that identifies it as a service dog. In the past, these same customers used to walk through stores with no such vests or permits on the dog, with the same dog.

Some customers don't appreciate these "dogs" sniffing them when the dog owner is not paying attention to their dogs while they shop and talk...the leash is usually pretty long.

If I had to guess one or two people might be stretching the rules to take their dog every place they go.


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Re: Did I mention that I have a temper?
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2012, 06:24:43 PM »
It's not even Walmart.  It's happening every where these days.  We were at the outlet mall a couple weeks ago and some lady had a small dog in a "dog purse".  Your dog isn't your child, you can leave it at home.

I've seen the dog purse in a waiting room of a doctor's office. That does not seem very "clinical" to me.