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grantcart primitive featured at Human Events for cyber bullying
« on: October 22, 2012, 12:28:25 AM »
Well, primitives, what do you have to say about this? 

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Leftist bloggers cyber bully pollster for calling Romney momentum early
By: Neil W. McCabe   
10/21/2012 07:35 PM


Left-wing bloggers and activists declared war on an independent pollster, who dared to pick up on Romney’s positive momentum, both nationally and in the states.

“I don’t run fake polls,” said Douglas J. Kaplan, who owns Winter Springs, Fla.-based Gravis Marketing, and who has been polling and releasing polls on the presidential election.

“It is ridiculous,” he said. “We have no power. We put out polls.”

“They are trying to shut me down because they think I’m a pro-Romney pollster,” he said. “They said Karl Rove was funding me, I wish I knew Karl Rove.”

In an Oct. 17 post, the blogger “grantcart” posted the following on DemocraticUnderground.com:


This is not a victimless crime. Anybody who bought into Gravis Marketing and their status as a pollster is going to have their reputations tarnished.  Bloggers on the right that embraced every poll (and hundreds did) will be tarnished with the brush of being ‘gullible’….There is a straight line from Nixon’s plumbers to James O’Keefe. It appears, members of the jury, that we found a potential new O’Keefe in the making.  For that reason we are not going to simply discredit Gravis Marketing the polling company but we are going to use the disinfectant of transparency to expose Douglas Kaplan and all of his known associates. We are not going to stop when we have made our point. We are not going to stop when we have achieved absolute agreement by all observers that we have found a low level con trying to cheapen our political process.


http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/21/leftists-attack-pollster-for-calling-romney-momentum-early/



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Re: Re: grantcart primitive featured at Human Events for cyber bullying
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 12:43:32 AM »
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Re: grantcart primitive featured at Human Events for cyber bullying
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 01:43:45 AM »
Good. Expose the DU cockroaches for what they are.
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Re: grantcart primitive featured at Human Events for cyber bullying
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 05:26:49 AM »
Isn't this what the DUmpmokey grantcart's super duper triple secret mission group is all about?  What's next for him, an anti cyber bullying campaign?  Hypocrisy, thy name remains DU.

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Re: grantcart primitive featured at Human Events for cyber bullying
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 02:20:25 PM »
Isn't this what the DUmpmokey grantcart's super duper triple secret mission group is all about?  What's next for him, an anti cyber bullying campaign?  Hypocrisy, thy name remains DU.

Uh huh.

This was pointed out in that one meta thread.  I suppose to most readers, it looked just like another ordinary primitive whinefest about a hidden post, no big deal, and so perhaps I shouldn't have brought the whole campfire over, just the last comment, the one by the grantcart primitive, so the real message wouldn't have been hidden by all the other fluff.
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DU makes Human Events (not flattering though)
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 03:55:43 PM »
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/10/21/leftists-attack-pollster-for-calling-romney-momentum-early/

Leftist bloggers bully pollster for calling Romney momentum early

<snippets> the article is long and gives tons of additional info, insane to say the least:

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Left-wing bloggers and activists declared war on an independent pollster, who dared to pick up on Romney’s positive momentum, both nationally and in the states.

“I don’t run fake polls,” said Douglas J. Kaplan, who owns Winter Springs, Fla.-based Gravis Marketing, and who has been polling and releasing polls on the presidential election.

“It is ridiculous,” he said. “We have no power. We put out polls.”

“They are trying to shut me down because they think I’m a pro-Romney pollster,” he said. “They said Karl Rove was funding me, I wish I knew Karl Rove.”

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On the progressive website DemocraticUnderground.com, “DemocratSinceBirth” posted the following Sept. 27 in the article “This Gravis Marketing Clown Is A Real Piece Of Work”: “He puts out a bunch of Republican leaning polls in the swing states and then puts out a poll for Washington that shows the president with a huge lead. Of course Washington isn’t a swing state and has never been seriously contested by Romney.”

Then, again on DU, grantcart’s post Oct. 7 began an attack with an expose. First, he compared the stock photo of a professional-looking man in his 40s to Kaplan’s own photo. Then, he pointed out that Kaplan had just showed up on the scene and had no professional or academic credentials to be a pollster.

grantcart also dug up records of business disputes between Kaplan and other companies, including Disney, who apparently sued him for using the word “magic” in the name of his travel promotion company.

Beyond the muckracking, there was a shift in tone with grantcart from the discussion with AngryBear, where Kaplan and a few others hashed out some of their differences in a comments section of the posting.

“So Nate, Huffington Post, Real Clear Politics have all been punked,” grantcart wrote.

“Doug probably hasn’t made any money off of it yet but next time around the Republicans will be happy to throw some bucks his way to get some good PR numbers,” he said.

“I know Gravis is a fraud,” he said.

“The media can pick up this work and get a story out of it,” he said. “Now Doug Kaplan is going to scream like a stuck pig.”

The DU posts were cross-posted at TheDailyKos.com.

grantcart posted at DU again Oct. 15 and the next day TheDailyKos.com ran its own summary of the case: “UPDATED Gravis Marketing Exposed AND Eviscerated” by AnnetteK.

AnnetteK includes new information including a series of IRS liens for payroll taxes from Kaplan’s previous businesses.

For those new to the story, AnnetteK explained that Kaplan runs Gravis Marketing, which she said publishes tilted poll results. “This has helped to cause the narrative since the 1st debate in Romney’s direction.”

It does not end.

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Despite the attacks, Kaplan said Silver continues to quote his polls, including the Oct. 19 national Gravis poll that showed Romney up by two points.

“At Real Clear Politics they told me it was part of the game,” he said. RCP continues to use Gravis polls, too.
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Re: DU makes Human Events (not flattering though)
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 03:59:07 PM »
From the article:

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“They said my poll was faked, that’s been debunked,” he said. “They called my family members, my friends—people I haven’t talked to in years. They’re trying to destroy my friends, any of my associations—it’s unbelievable.”
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Re: grantcart primitive featured at Human Events for cyber bullying
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 04:05:14 PM »
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This is nothing new for Democratic Underground. They've initiated libelous internet memes and smear campaigns against conservative politicians for years, then giggle and high-five each other over it like a bunch of catty junior high school girls. If the internet was a body, DU would be the rectum.
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