Clinton: 'I take responsibility' for security ahead of Benghazi attack

[Mr Mannn]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html

Clinton: 'I take responsibility' for security ahead of Benghazi attack
Lima, Peru (CNN) -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the buck stops with her when it comes to who is to blame for security ahead of a deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya.

"I take responsibility" for what happened on September 11, Clinton said in an interview with CNN's Elise Labott soon after arriving in Lima, Peru, for a visit. The interview, one of a series given to U.S. television networks Monday night, was the first she has given about the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.

Clinton insisted President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden are not involved in security decisions.

"I want to avoid some kind of political gotcha," she added, noting that it is close to the election.

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[5412]

Hi,

Pure BS......the captain is responsible for all that goes on with the ship.  How many times did Bush get nailed for things Rumsfeld did?

Damn libs will say and do anything to change the subject from their failures.

regards,
5412

[Carl]

This is not going to put the fire out.
First off she did it in a place away from the Washington press corps and her falling on a sword is baffling to me.

It could be a huge negative for O as well with undecided women voters as the impression is he is a wimp who is happy to let her take a fall.

I just don`t know the upside for her unless Barry has a bunch of his own FBI files sort of thing in the basement.
That is getting into tinfoil area though.

[thundley4]

The Clinton's were paid off or blackmailed somehow.  No way Hillary did this without inducement.

[Kyle Ricky]

They are trying to save the chosen one's ass.. This will not work.

[Duke Nukum]

Is she resigning or is this just a "Janet Reno" type of responsibility taking?

[Carl]

Really just thinking out loud here so may be nothing but crap.

She is taking a bullet and I don`t think a soul alive would believe that there is not some calculated political reasoning.
As far as I have read she has no intention of continuing on as SOS regardless of outcome of the election.

So what is the upside for her for this?
Perhaps to show herself as a true leader rather then a blamer in chief?
To appeal to women voters as I said above who may be turned off by the President allowing her to take responsibility rather then man up and say the buck stops here?

Hard to guess.

[BEG]

Is she resigning or is this just a "Janet Reno" type of responsibility taking?

She said awhile ago (like last year) that she was not going to serve in a 2nd Obama admin.

[NHSparky]

noting that it is close to the election

And that, boys and girls, is your answer.  That and nothing else.

[5412]

Hi,

Here is what Gingrich had to say:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Gingrich-Benghazi-response-Watergate/2012/10/14/id/459897?s=al&promo_code=1061C-1

There is nothing that Bill and Hillary Clinton do that does not have some personal political motive for them.  It will come out some day.

regards,
5412

[formerlurker]

This is not going to put the fire out.
First off she did it in a place away from the Washington press corps and her falling on a sword is baffling to me.

It could be a huge negative for O as well with undecided women voters as the impression is he is a wimp who is happy to let her take a fall.

I just don`t know the upside for her unless Barry has a bunch of his own FBI files sort of thing in the basement.
That is getting into tinfoil area though.

NRO had a piece in The Corner where they stated Billy-Jeff has lawyered her up, fully expecting the messiah to blame and fire her.   

Looks like she turned he table on him and was proactive about it.  It is very odd.   I agree it won't make a bit of difference.

[RightCoast]

HillBill must now go.  Nothing else is acceptable.

[J P Sousa]

Really just thinking out loud here so may be nothing but crap.

She is taking a bullet and I don`t think a soul alive would believe that there is not some calculated political reasoning.
As far as I have read she has no intention of continuing on as SOS regardless of outcome of the election.

So what is the upside for her for this?
Perhaps to show herself as a true leader rather then a blamer in chief?
To appeal to women voters as I said above who may be turned off by the President allowing her to take responsibility rather then man up and say the buck stops here?

Hard to guess.

Some say she wants to be president in the future but I don't think so.

Politicians whose time is over but have some value will fall on their sword for a future consideration. The only question is what is the consideration. What job or position would be desirable for Hillery even if the "O" loses.

Democrat contributors and I mean BIG contributors can pull strings for the party "faithfull", to help those party soldiers who need a job / position with a distinguished title and perhaps "good benefits / good pay".

Bill earned more than $30 million in speaking from 2001 to 2005, $6 million per year is not bad. Hillery can write a book with some well connected democrat and earn millions. Her options are endless with billionaire contributor help.
.

[wasp69]

Methinks Hillary just dumped a grenade in Barry's lap right before the foreign policy debate...

[ChuckJ]

Hi,

Pure BS......the captain is responsible for all that goes on with the ship.  How many times did Bush get nailed for things Rumsfeld did?

Damn libs will say and do anything to change the subject from their failures.

regards,
5412

I may be remembering this incorrectly. If I am, I'm sure someone here will correct me. I believe during one of Reagan's terms that was a scandal. Maybe it was the arms-for-hostages thing. Before everything busted loose Reagan was asked about the charges and if he was responsible. He said no. After everything came to light he said that in his previous remarks he had been incorrect. He explained that he was not involved, but that since it happened on his watch it made him responsible for it.

Bama sure ain't Reagan.

[Revolution]

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton takes responsibility for security failures leading up to deadly attack on US Consulate in Libya, but chalks up White House's confusing explanations to 'fog of war.'

This is on the front page of Fox News right now. Fog of War my ass. She's trying to save Obama, and his precious little administration. Not gonna happen, Hil...

[Ptarmigan]

This gets interesting.

[Kyle Ricky]

I may be remembering this incorrectly. If I am, I'm sure someone here will correct me. I believe during one of Reagan's terms that was a scandal. Maybe it was the arms-for-hostages thing. Before everything busted loose Reagan was asked about the charges and if he was responsible. He said no. After everything came to light he said that in his previous remarks he had been incorrect. He explained that he was not involved, but that since it happened on his watch it made him responsible for it.

Bama sure ain't Reagan.

The Iran Contra Affair. Oliver North was brought up on a Senate hearing. I still remember seeing that..

[Boudicca]

Methinks Hillary just dumped a grenade in Barry's lap right before the foreign policy debate...

I think she did it on purpose.  If she had truly wished to save his bacon, she'd have "manned up" four weeks and six days ago, not five weeks after the debacle on the eve of his foreign policy debate.
IMO this is payback for the outrageous claims of racism leveled against the Clintons by the Obamas and their machine during the bitter primary war of 2008.  Whatever one believes of the Clintons, and I believe plenty, it strains the boundaries of comprehension that one would classify them as racists.  Well, and also the primary caused a fissure in the Dem party that the Clintons have never been overly eager to do more than paper over.  Bill Clinton's speech in Charlotte wherein he defended Barry's incumbency with all the fire and passion of a limp cigar is a case in point.
Nah, piss off the Clintons and you'll pay, eventually, if they have any way of making that happen.  Barry should've stuck to CHICAGO crooks and stayed out of the big kids' pool.

Now, as to what Mitt makes of this tomorrow evening, he'll have to walk a fine line between socking it to the emasculated Obama, whose own wife has done more to neuter him than I do every time I drag a cat or dog to the vet to get fixed, and demonstrating the utterly appropriate sympathy for the victims of this wrenching national tragedy.  I don't th ink the Obama spokescreatures' attempts to affix blame to the Romney/Ryan ticket for Benghazi will go over well with tomorrow's audience.

[sybilll]

I think she did it on purpose.  If she had truly wished to save his bacon, she'd have "manned up" four weeks and six days ago, not five weeks after the debacle on the eve of his foreign policy debate.
IMO this is payback for the outrageous claims of racism leveled against the Clintons by the Obamas and their machine during the bitter primary war of 2008.  Whatever one believes of the Clintons, and I believe plenty, it strains the boundaries of comprehension that one would classify them as racists.  Well, and also the primary caused a fissure in the Dem party that the Clintons have never been overly eager to do more than paper over.  Bill Clinton's speech in Charlotte wherein he defended Barry's incumbency with all the fire and passion of a limp cigar is a case in point.
Nah, piss off the Clintons and you'll pay, eventually, if they have any way of making that happen.  Barry should've stuck to CHICAGO crooks and stayed out of the big kids' pool.

Nailed it.  H5^

Now, as to what Mitt makes of this tomorrow evening, he'll have to walk a fine line between socking it to the emasculated Obama, whose own wife has done more to neuter him than I do every time I drag a cat or dog to the vet to get fixed, and demonstrating the utterly appropriate sympathy for the victims of this wrenching national tragedy.  I don't th ink the Obama spokescreatures' attempts to affix blame to the Romney/Ryan ticket for Benghazi will go over well with tomorrow's audience.

[Kyle Ricky]

Either way you look at it. The Clintons are doing the same thing this as they did in 2008 -> Not voting for obama.

[debk]

This whole deal of Hillary suddenly taking the blame...smells to high heaven.

One of the guys I work with, we were on break together at 1am watching the rerun of Greta interviewing Newt and we saw part of the interview with Guiliani....

My work buddy is convinced that Obama has "something" on Hillary and/or Bill for her to do this.

4-5 weeks AFTER the tragedy is not when one takes responsibility so selflessly. Everyone already knew the embassies/consulates and ambassadors/staff comes under the State Department. She's "head" of it. So yes, technically she is the one responsible....always has been.

However, does that make her responsible for all the lies and misinformation that has been coming out of the government for the last almost 5 weeks?

I don't think so.

I thought - as I'm sure many here did - that to blame all of this on a video that few people had ever even heard of, let alone had seen, seemed unrealistic.

When Biden said last week in the debate, "We didn't know!" I took it to mean he and Obama. Talk about "foot in mouth disease"! What an incredibly stupid comment to make. To say they did not know, in my most humble opinion makes them look even more inept!

It is their JOB, both his and Obama's to know terrorist threats....hello? isn't that part of the information delivered in the daily briefings that they are supposed to attend? Maybe if they had attended them on a regular basis - they would have known!!!!

It's one thing to "drop the ball" so to speak on adequate security (yes, it is a lot more to it than such a simplistic phrase), it is another thing to admit that one has absolutely no knowledge of a possibility of terrorist existence in an area that has been rife with terrorism for decades! Duh!!! Again, it's their f'n job to know these things!

WE all know it, and very few of us have any connection to classified government information...we are just intelligent enough to recognize the signs of terrorism and have enough common sense to know that any American in an area of well known Islamic terrorism has the potential to be in harm's way.

Something is up....and there is no way that I think Hillary did this for the "common good" of the situation or for Obama.

"Something rotten this way comes...."




edited to correct Mitt to Newt. 

[zeitgeist]

The question to Obie now becomes:

Mr President, in light of recent revelations, have you asked for The Secretary of State's resignation?

Obie will then have to do a reall buck and weave for the folk at home. 

Will it happen?  Nooope.  No one in the press will be able to get the question in and it darn sure won't come up in the debate tonight. 

[Gina]

I just can't believe he would let her fall on the sword for him.  What a ***** he is! 

[5412]

Hi,

You all will love this.  Here is what Hillary had to say to BO in 2008.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/hillary-clinton-to-obama-in-2008-the-buck-stops

No core values with the Clintions or the libs, just say what sells at the time.

What a bunch of crap.  I would love to see someone ask for her resignation.

Although Clinton might realize after November it is a moot point anyway.

regards,
5412