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fearnobush (3,465 posts)  Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM

I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.

He was my niece's boyfriend. He had a cold, at least that is what he thought he had. After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.

He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead. If this happened to this young man today. And I'm almost in tears writing this, he would still be alive because of one man. President Obama. So Mr. Romney, you can go **** YOUR MORMON ASS TO HELL!

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Warpy (65,057 posts)   Thu Oct 11, 2012, 09:54 PM

5. A coworker died like that, went home with the flu in the afternoon and was dead the next morning. This was in 1991 or so. A few years later when a cluster of cases got the local university to identify Hantavirus, we all suspected that's what it had been.

I had two coworkers who had to declare bankruptcy just because of copays when they developed serious illnesses.

This is not right. I also know too many people who don't go in when they should because they can't afford the copay or the deductible is too high. It's not really worth it to them to have insurance, at all, since they're paying premiums for comprehensive insurance instead of just major medical.

So yes, those bastards really chap my ass. I haven't had insurance since 1987, myself, and no way to get it.

Tar and feathers, folks, it's the only logical response to cruel, lying greedheads like Romney and Ryan.

^^^^^Hmmmm. 

There must be a back-story on that.  One wonders what it is.

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SheilaT (10,879 posts)  Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:36 AM

6. A co-worker died of what they used to call "walking pneumonia", which is more or less when you don't realize you really have pneumonia, because you may feel lousy but you just don't realize how sick you are. Basically, he went home feeling lousy, went to bed and woke up dead.

Sometimes, even when people do have health insurance, they delay seeking medical help. Unfortunately, for those who are uninsured in our system, there's a huge financial disincentive to get help under any circumstances.

You know, I had a niece who died unexpectedly at the age of 30 back in 2000. 

One of my primitive sisters-in-law, an aunt of hers, said she died because of "lack of insurance."

(This was then too early to blame it on George Bush, so she blamed it on Republicans in general.)

Which of course was bullshit.

My niece died simply because she figured that if things she did had bad consequences, medical science would take care of it.
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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 09:27:44 AM »
On the other (sane) hand, every uninsured young person I have ever known to get deathly sick (including my own daughter) went to a hospital to seek help.  They were treated to the best modern medicine could provide. 

Their medical bills were sent to "Human Resources".  The bills were paid by medicaid and/or private organizations.  And like in the case of my daughter, she never saw another bill.  Her care was over $200,000.00.

Why are these DUmbasses so unable to seek the same care and outcomes?   

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 09:33:06 AM »
How does one 'wake up dead'?

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 09:39:17 AM »
On the other (sane) hand, every uninsured young person I have ever known to get deathly sick (including my own daughter) went to a hospital to seek help.  They were treated to the best modern medicine could provide. 

Their medical bills were sent to "Human Resources".  The bills were paid by medicaid and/or private organizations.  And like in the case of my daughter, she never saw another bill.  Her care was over $200,000.00.

Why are these DUmbasses so unable to seek the same care and outcomes?   

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 09:45:59 AM »
Undies, Undies, Undies . . . what's the first rule of the DUmpster?

DUmmies lie.  All the time, DUmmies lie.

They want good and decent people to come to their side.  And they're just like Muzzies in that lies that help them are all right.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 09:54:45 AM »
Look, if I'm so sick I need to go to the hospital, then there isn't enough "they'll ruin my credit" excuses I could come up with to keep me from going.  That's not dying of an illness, that's dying from stupidity.

I've generally found that people will find ways to do whatever they want to do if they want it bad enough.  Some people won't go to the doctor no matter how bad they feel, which is their choice.  No about of "free" healthcare" will change that.

Some cases like the primitives describe may have happened to individuals.  But as always is the case when it comes to things like this, the primitives have way too many personal experiences with issues that play into their political beliefs to find their stories credible.  IOW, they conveniently jump on the "free healthcare" wagon with these types of stories a little too much for me to believe them.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 10:06:04 AM »
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After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.

He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead.

You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 10:19:50 AM »
You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
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They've been watching "Mildred Pierce" were the young daughter has a slight cough one day and it dead the next.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 11:53:39 AM »
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fearnobush (3,465 posts)  Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM

I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.

Oh bull ****in' shit! Anyone to stooooopid to go to an emergency room when they're that sick deserves to kick up daisies! What was it's DU name?
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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 12:01:22 PM »

^^^^^Hmmmm. 

There must be a back-story on that.  One wonders what it is.


 
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Taxes are the way we support all the things we take for granted, from a 911 number to call to the roads to the traffic lights on them that help assure we get to our destination in one piece to the water we drink and cook with every day. I would far rather pay taxes than be on the hook for some profit driven corporate monopoly any old day. I know what monopolies do when they realize they have a captive customer pool with no choice but to use what they produce.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 12:35:14 PM »
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8. Nobody disgusts me more than a tax whiner.

I'm living off a portfolio and pay quarterlies and I do my own damned taxes on April Fool's Day, after the first amended 1099s come in. I want to see what's going on.

Taxes are the way we support all the things we take for granted, from a 911 number to call to the roads to the traffic lights on them that help assure we get to our destination in one piece to the water we drink and cook with every day. I would far rather pay taxes than be on the hook for some profit driven corporate monopoly any old day. I know what monopolies do when they realize they have a captive customer pool with no choice but to use what they produce.

Tax whiners need to be shipped off to Somalia until they get the ****ing point.
OK, so Warpy's living off some sort of investment fund? and he won't buy insurance?
He's wealthy enough not to work, but too cheap to buy his own insurance...Instead he wants US to pay his medical bills when he could easily pay for his own.
--Typical lazy liberal bum. Rich but still seeking entitlements.

Hmmm. Is he another trust fund baby like Wee Willie Pittster?
Or is his investment portfolio called the M&D? Mom and Dad Funds Unlimited?

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 12:43:04 PM »
Seein' how he does his taxes on April Fools day says a lot. No fool like an old fool. Oh, and hey Warped, I don't mind payin' taxes for my local improvements.

It's the ****in' Feds makin' me pay for your medical and birth control that chaps my hide. That and the Homo Poet Society that Dirty Harry Reid thinks we can't do without, that and similar hand outs just like it.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 01:17:22 PM »
How does one 'wake up dead'?

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 02:11:27 PM »
You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
Actually, yes, you can. It nearly happened to me, years ago. Started feeling like the flu at midday, saw my doctor in the afternoon, ended up at 1am in the ER with 105 temp, blue fingernails, etc., double pneumonia. Took 3 days in ICU to get it under control. I didn't quite die, but was pretty close, I think.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 02:21:38 PM »
Actually, yes, you can. It nearly happened to me, years ago. Started feeling like the flu at midday, saw my doctor in the afternoon, ended up at 1am in the ER with 105 temp, blue fingernails, etc., double pneumonia. Took 3 days in ICU to get it under control. I didn't quite die, but was pretty close, I think.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
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fearnobush (3,465 posts)  Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM

I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.

I'd bet the DUmmy (A friend of a DUmmy is by association, a DUmmy) got high and passed out in a blizzard or some such idiocy.
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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2012, 02:22:27 PM »
You can come down with a cold one day and be dead from pneumonia during the night of the next day?
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I got sick about 7:30 in the evening and was in the ER by 11 the next morning. In an induced coma in the ICU by 2. I died several times. Woke up 8 days later in a different hospital than I went out in.

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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 03:23:02 PM »
Close only counts in horseshoes.

Add "hand grenades" and "nuclear weapons" to that list. :tongue:
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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2012, 03:34:28 PM »
Add "hand grenades" and "nuclear weapons" to that list. :tongue:

And premature eja....oh, never mind.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2012, 03:39:02 PM »
No experience with pneumonia, but my husband got sick on a Fri. in the AM, I made an appt. with the Doctor for the early afternoon because I didn't want him sick all weekend, at the Doctors office I came down with the same symptoms my Husband had earlier in the morning, saw the Doctor, got a prescription because we both had bronchitis and we had the flu, got the prescription filled, we went to bed about 3 and were bed bound for a week, it was insane, it took us about a month to recover. I couldn't believe how fast the symptoms came on.
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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2012, 04:08:34 PM »
OK, so Warpy's living off some sort of investment fund? and he won't buy insurance?
He's wealthy enough not to work, but too cheap to buy his own insurance...Instead he wants US to pay his medical bills when he could easily pay for his own.
--Typical lazy liberal bum. Rich but still seeking entitlements.

Hmmm. Is he another trust fund baby like Wee Willie Pittster?
Or is his investment portfolio called the M&D? Mom and Dad Funds Unlimited?


The defrocked warped primitive's a she.

A former registered nurse in Massachusetts, now banned from practicing in that profession for life.

She now lives in New Mexico; about 62 years old, give or take a year either way.

She has a face like Hindenburg's and a body like Mussolini's.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2012, 04:19:11 PM »
I don't know what year it was when DUmmy Warpy was caught stealing drugs from the hospital and lost her nursing career, but it was after 1987.

And there's no hospital nurse who doesn't have some kind of health insurance.

Warpy lies as often as she's ugly - all the time.

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
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fearnobush (3,465 posts)  Thu Oct 11, 2012, 07:48 PM

I knew a 24 year old who died of acute pneumonia because he had no Heath insurance.

He was my niece's boyfriend. He had a cold, at least that is what he thought he had. After the second day, his cold became worse. He lived at home in an upper middle class neighborhood and was in between jobs. He had no Heath insurance. Later that night when his father noticed he'd become progressively sicker he offers to take him to the hospital. The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit. He was too old to be covered by his father's insurance back in 2009. He had no idea how sick he was. By this point, the infection had spread deep into his lungs but he had no idea.

He told his father if he did not feel ant better in the morning he would go to the emergency room. His father stayed with him in his room that night. His son's coughing grew worse. At three am his father called for the paramedics. By the time they arrived, he was dead. If this happened to this young man today. And I'm almost in tears writing this, he would still be alive because of one man. President Obama. So Mr. Romney, you can go **** YOUR MORMON ASS TO HELL!

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Re: defrocked warped primitive hasn't had health insurance since 1987
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2012, 10:34:19 PM »
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The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2012, 10:57:04 PM »
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The young man said he could not afford it, that it would ruin his credit.

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Gotta agree with ya Chris_.

But his credit is just the best!.