Las Vegas Leviathan indulges in a personal story

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002860577

Damn.

I am bored, bored, bored, tonight.

The bully in me says, "Well, if you're bored, pick on some primitives."

So I thought I would, starting with the Las Vegas Leviathan, and then going on to others.

deminks (6,966 posts)   Tue Jun 26, 2012, 06:47 PM

Affordable Dental Care Unavailable To One-Third Of Americans: Report

That's right, over 100 million Americans cannot afford dental care.

after which blah blah blah

Systematic Chaos (7,744 posts)   Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:24 PM

9. If I may indulge in a personal story...?

Even though I've been blogging my weight loss on another forum as well as here; and I've whined, bitched, moaned and complained at length about what it's like trying to drop a shit ton of weight without access to any medical help, there is this whole dental thing which I've never discussed.

Long story short, one of my back molars -- the last one back there before the wisdom tooth on the top right -- started literally crumbling apart about 3 years ago. At first it was tiny little pieces and over time they got larger and the remaining stump of tooth had rotted to the point where you could literally bend it back and forth. I mean, the actual structure of the tooth had become flexible, like tough licorice or something. The toothaches which accompanied this had me using so much Ora-Gel and oil of cloves that within a couple of weeks it was like my entire tongue was being singed away. It became impossible for me to eat anything even remotely spicy, and that's coming from someone who loves red pepper flakes on his pasta, tons of jalapenos in his chili and on his veggie dogs, and so forth.

Three or four years later, and you can feel a couple little tiny shards of tooth still poking out back there, but I consider myself very lucky in that all the pain is gone, unless I try eating or drinking something very cold. I can once again enjoy spicy foods within reason, so that's nice.

On the other hand, I'm sure this was just the first problem of many I'll be in for as I get older, and like the already copious amounts of loose skin I'm dealing with from my weight loss, I'll just have to join my tens of millions of other 'fortunate Amercians' in picking myself up by those wonderful, mythical bootstraps.

But I understand. All these wars and resource grabs and bailouts for the rich are much more important than my health, comfort or survival despite how much I've already accomplished with only one person backing me up and helping me or any of the other tens of millions who share my plight.

That's bullshit, you ****ing fat slob.

You haven't accomplished a damned thing.

It's all been poor Jeanette's toil.

[Evil_Conservative]

Hey, my place of employment is hiring.  Would you like the link?  The office is located in Henderson.  It pays well and offers great benefits.  Banker hours without having to deal with the public.

[thundley4]

Hey, my place of employment is hiring.  Would you like the link?  The office is located in Henderson.  It pays well and offers great benefits.  Banker hours without having to deal with the public.

Is overtime voluntary or mandatory?

[Zeus]

Most dental insurance plans are a ripoff. You'd be just as well off if not better to bank the premiums you'd otherwise payout for the policy and then you'd have the Money needed when you go to a dentist.  As In a lot of things in life today when you offer to pay in cash you receive a substantial discount on goods an/or services

[Celtic Rose]

The last time I went for a cleaning and exam without insurance I think it was around $120.  Good dental hygiene and an exam every 6 months will prevent crumbling teeth for most people.  Of course, if his teeth are constantly sitting in soda, he may need more help.

[Zeus]

The last time I went for a cleaning and exam without insurance I think it was around $120.  Good dental hygiene and an exam every 6 months will prevent crumbling teeth for most people.  Of course, if his teeth are constantly sitting in soda, he may need more help.

With insurance and the monthly premium paying of the one to two yr no coverage provided waiting period and enhanced service cost due to third party billing coupled with out of pocket copay, you would still pay as much if not more.

[Celtic Rose]

With insurance and the monthly premium paying of the one to two yr no coverage provided waiting period and enhanced service cost due to third party billing coupled with out of pocket copay, you would still pay as much if not more.

Oh, I absolutely agree, especially for routine  stuff.  If you have kids that need orthodontia work, or if you expect oral surgery in your future, insurance is probably worth it.  With decent teeth though, paying out of pocket isn't so bad. 

[Zeus]

Oh, I absolutely agree, especially for routine  stuff.  If you have kids that need orthodontia work, or if you expect oral surgery in your future, insurance is probably worth it.  With decent teeth though, paying out of pocket isn't so bad. 

This is my dental Sob Story 

Back in the late 80's when my time in the US Army was coming to a close ,  due to injuries sustained I was under going jaw reconstruction to be followed by some oral surgeries and dental work. Well the jaw reconstruction was completed but the the oral surgeries and dental work could not be completed by my scheduled ETS date. I was given the options of being a medical holdover and the Army could complete the work or go with my scheduled ETS date and the VA could finish up. I opted for the VA route.

The EL Paso branch of the VA was very expedient in taking on my case. Due to a back log of work they had my case farmed out to a civilian Orthodontist. He was a good Ole boy and we got along fine. He performed the needed surgeries and capped my remaining teeth and built both upper and lower partials. We talked on many subjects but one was the cost to Uncle Sam for the work done to me. He said about $5000. I then asked what it would cost if I was just Joe Smoe off the street and paying cash, he didn't hesitate before replying "About half that".

I was quite pleased with the work done and never had any problems. Now fast forward 20 yrs

Eventually the caps started to deteriorate and the partials were falling apart. Off I was sent to VA Dentist in temple, TX.
Instead of replacing the caps and building new partials they wanted to pull my teeth and give me full dentures. I asked why the y didn't want to replace the caps and go with new partials. They claimed the caps would only last a couple yrs and the VA didn't want to spend the money on continuously recapping the teeth. I explained that the current caps lasted 20 yrs. They said that was some excellent work and subsequent recapping becomes more & more difficult if not impossible and they couldn't match the quality given established parameters set by the VA.

So now I got me a full set of choppers that have been nothing but trouble and am currently battling the VA for another jaw and gum line reconstruction that is said to very likely alleviate said problems.

Was a group of us while in the Army had a saying 'I love the ****ing Army & The Army loves ****ing me". I think Army should be replaced with VA now 

[I_B_Perky]

But I understand. All these wars and resource grabs and bailouts for the rich are much more important than my health, comfort or survival despite how much I've already accomplished with only one person backing me up and helping me or any of the other tens of millions who share my plight.

Well fat ass.... all I got say is this:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhalnCwP82s[/youtube]

Sod off, lazy fat ass.   

[thundley4]

But I understand. All these wars and resource grabs and bailouts for the rich are much more important than my health, comfort or survival despite how much I've already accomplished with only one person backing me up and helping me or any of the other tens of millions who share my plight.

Well fat ass.... all I got say is this:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhalnCwP82s[/youtube]

Sod off, lazy fat ass.   

To paraphrase some saying:  Millions for defense, not one penny for a lazy fatass.

[Zeus]

To paraphrase some saying:  Millions for defense, not one penny for a lazy fatass.

The Irony is Millions for defense protecting her right to be a lazy fatass.

[I_B_Perky]

To paraphrase some saying:  Millions for defense, not one penny for a lazy fatass.

The Irony is Millions for defense protecting her right to be a lazy fatass.

H5 to both of ya all!!!   

[Zeus]

But I understand. All these wars and resource grabs and bailouts for the rich are much more important than my health, comfort or survival despite how much I've already accomplished with only one person backing me up and helping me or any of the other tens of millions who share my plight

"You didn't accomplish that"

[RobJohnson]

Hey, my place of employment is hiring.  Would you like the link?  The office is located in Henderson.  It pays well and offers great benefits.  Banker hours without having to deal with the public.

I need set hours.

Henderson will eat up the gas tank.

[RobJohnson]

With insurance and the monthly premium paying of the one to two yr no coverage provided waiting period and enhanced service cost due to third party billing coupled with out of pocket copay, you would still pay as much if not more.

No waiting periods for me.

I have excellent dental insurnace. I can even roll over unused dollars to the next benefit year.

It's saved me a lot of money over the past few years.

Just the cleaning and x rays at zero co pay with no deductable more then pay for my little pre tax premiums.

As with anything, one size does not fit all, there are zillions of insurnace plans. I work for the 1% and they take very good care of me

[I_B_Perky]

"You didn't accomplish that"

He did so!!!! He accomplished being a fat, lazy bastard!!!!!   

[Evil_Conservative]

Is overtime voluntary or mandatory?

Mandatory eight hours a week when the work load is overloaded.

[thundley4]

Mandatory eight hours a week when the work load is overloaded.

That isn't too bad.  Ours is supposedly voluntary, but no one believes it.  Our's isn't scheduled, but required whenever a customer needs the work done.

[Zeus]

Mandatory eight hours a week when the work load is overloaded.

only 8 hrs/week isn't overloaded more than likely underworked. Instead of trying to trample ea other hitting the streets when the workday hits 8 hrs show some initative and finish what you working on then go home. 

[franksolich]

Hmmmmm.

.....much more important than my health, comfort or survival.....

Well, I think the Las Vegas Leviathan should contemplate upon the words of his hero John Kennedy.

I think he'd come to the reasonable conclusion that national defense, the infrastructure, education, bringing the blessings of liberty and freedom to backward parts of the world, &c., &c., &c., is more important than his personal ease and comfort.

That is, if the Las Vegas Leviathan really believes what John Kennedy said.

[Vagabond]

So the Las Vegas Lardass has dental issues.  Has he picked up the phone and called dentists in the surrounding area and explained his situation to see if he could possibly get dental care at cost or free?  Did he take extra steps to take care of his teeth knowing he couldn't afford a lot of dental trouble?  Nope and nope.  It's so much easier to blame government for your problems.

[Evil_Conservative]

So the Las Vegas Lardass has dental issues.  Has he picked up the phone and called dentists in the surrounding area and explained his situation to see if he could possibly get dental care at cost or free?  Did he take extra steps to take care of his teeth knowing he couldn't afford a lot of dental trouble?  Nope and nope.  It's so much easier to blame government for your problems.

Exactly.  Oh and if the DUmmy doesn't want to get a job with me (and other crazy Republicans) then I could always donate some of my toothpaste stockpile to him.  It was all free anyway after coupons.  I have some extra toothbrushes, but I'm not sure if they are his size.

[GOBUCKS]

Dental work?

There is no way Kirk's enormous, bloated, freakish mass would fit into a dental chair, and he'd destroy waiting room furniture.

[franksolich]

Dental work?

There is no way Kirk's enormous, bloated, freakish mass would fit into a dental chair, and he'd destroy waiting room furniture.

Well, since the Las Vegas Leviathan admires John Kennedy, I think he should follow the advice of the late president and make sacrifices so that others who have less, can have something.

I don't have any problem with cutting funds for domestic dental programs for "needy" adults and channeling them instead for the good of young children in Mali or Chad or Mauritania.

Ditto for food stamps, too.  Less for Kirk so the children there can have something.  They need it more than he does.

[thundley4]

The LVL primitive could do like the other primitive did and pull his own teeth.