primitive ineligible to vote

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021448257

Oh my.

A HERETIC I AM (8,862 posts)  Mon Oct 1, 2012, 07:44 PM

Well shit. The State of Florida has me listed as "Ineligible" to vote.

Why? Because the address I have is a mailbox, not a residence. I've been living out of hotels or my truck for the last 2 years and all my stuff is in storage. I can't be registered without having a place to live. So, If you're homeless, you can't vote? I'm going to get a place in Jacksonville (where the Auto Transport company I now work for is based) but that won't happen in the next week, so I may be screwed.

I called the FL Democratic party headquarters in Tallahassee this morning and they gave me the number for the Charlotte County Election Registrars office. I talked to a guy there who, after I explained my situation, suggested I use my moms address (which is literally, 3 blocks from the place I rent my mailbox) but said he would look into the particulars and call me back. I'm worried that since my Drivers License address is my mailbox and I get no mail at all at my moms place, they will still say I am ineligible. 

I know I have dragged my feet on this, but I honestly thought I would have moved to JAX by now. I've been with this company for a little over a year now (9/12 was one year) but I've been paying off debt with extra money, so I haven't put anything away outside of the 401(k). I got my car paid off and between that and the credit card debt I was carrying, I have shaved over $10,000 in debt away in the last 12 months. I only have a little over $1500 to go and I'll be debt free for the first time since the late 1980's!

So......it is my fault, no doubt. I've only myself to blame. I HATE the fact that I might not be able to vote for my President, but frankly, if it wasn't for him, the "cash for clunkers" program and the other stimulus programs he has been able to effect, I'd still be where I was 14 months ago. I'm hoping I hear from the Registrar tomorrow. If I don't by 3:00 tomorrow afternoon, I'm gonna call them back.

The reason the paying off the debt story is significant, in case I'm not clear, is I just haven't gotten the first, last and a months security together for a decent place in Jacksonville. Plus, renting a truck to go fetch my stuff from Charlotte County with fuel both ways ( about a 650 mile round trip) is likely to cost me $300 to $400, the majority of that in gas! I burned through all the other savings I had trying to keep my head above water during a long stretch of unemployment from mid '09 through late 2010 when I was finally able to get back into Auto Transport.


So.....the ol' rock and a hard place, I suppose.

A HERETIC I AM (8,862 posts)   Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:14 PM

11. I don't doubt what you say is true......

But what I was told by both the Democratic Party HQ AND the registrar in Charlotte County made it seem like I had to have an established residence.

It sounds bogus as hell to me, as I just don't see why I have to have a "residence" in order to be eligible. I understand the logic involved, but hells bells, I am an American Citizen, a taxpayer for well over 40 years (I'm 53) and this is the first time I have been in this situation during an election cycle. I've used those rental mailboxes as an address before - I did it in Michigan for years - and that address appeared on my drivers license back then.

On thing that may be adding to this pickle is that I hold a Commercial Drivers License. I MUST update it when I move, which I did when I lost my condo in the Fort Myers area (where I was registered and voted in 2008) and 'moved' to Charlotte county.

The question I have about registering using my mothers address is whether or not they will still disqualify me because I don't actually reside there. I get no bills there, no cable, no electric, etc. and it is coming down to the wire.

I am seriously thinking about calling the Republican Party HQ and see if they get me registered. If that happens, I WON'T VOTE, PERIOD. Instead, I'll get ahold of Rachael Maddow or someone in the media who can run with what would be a BLATANT case of voter fraud.

How cool would it be to show up on election day and get a ballot issued under false pretenses, but with a camera crew in tow?

Be a nice "**** You" to the Repubs, wouldn't it?

A HERETIC I AM (8,862 posts)   Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:21 PM

14. That is the EXACT word the registrar used.

"Precinctable".

Exactly.

And I understand why, but still. I'm looking forward to burning through a shitload of cell phone minutes this week I suppose.

A HERETIC I AM (8,862 posts)   Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:29 PM

16. That is exactly what I have.

I rent a mailbox from one of those Mailboxes Etc. type places - not a national chain, but a locally owned mom and pop tpye place that does UPS and FEDEX packing and shipping and rents mailboxes.

When I changed my CDL address, I had to provide evidence that this was my "residence" by providing them with bills. I had my cell phone bill, my car insurance bill and credit card bills being sent there. So I took those bills with me to the drivers license office and they issued my license. I also tried to register to vote at the same time, but 2 or 3 weeks later I got a letter from the state saying I couldn't use that address because it was a commercial property and NOT a "residence".

THAT'S why I'm having this trouble.

Here's another thing;

I have a Hazardous Materials (HazMat) endorsement. In order to get that, I had to have an FBI background check performed.
I also hold a "TWIC" card - Transportation Workers Identification Card - which allows me to enter port facilities. This ALSO required an FBI background check. My TWIC is also registered to the same mailbox. The FBI is fine with me, but the state elections board isn't!

Go figure!

[Ballygrl]

What a piece of crap trying to screw someone who tries to help you.

[Chris_]

I am seriously thinking about calling the Republican Party HQ and see if they get me registered

Does this guy not know that political parties don't actually register voters?  He should be talking to his local county election comission or the secretary of state's office.

[dane]

Two (now three) questions re the dude using his Mom's address.

Does he not have to be at that address for a specified length of time prior to the election?

If he uses Mom's address but doesn't live there, isn't that some sort of fraud, and don't Demrats hate that sort of thing? (Well, they *say* they do.)

Edited to add third question:  In order to properly assign a Fla voter to the proper voting precinct and/or district, how would a simple mail box address allow that?

Another edit:  I just checked my Fla voter registration card, and it clearly states "Name and residence address".

[BEG]

So you wait a month before the election to register. DUmmies are idiots.

I registered several months ago and the first time I registered I got a card in the mail saying my name didn't match my DL or social security number (you only have to list one but I gave them both). I about shit my pants because I was afraid someone stole my SS number. I reregistered again and it took at least 6 weeks if not longer to get my voters registration card. I must have transposed a number or something the first time I registered.  I know it takes a long time to get your voters registration card in Texas because my son registered the same day I did (the second time around) and got his the same day I did.

I think same day voters registration is a terrible idea. If you can't take a few seconds to register a head of time you don't deserve to vote.

[Undies]

So you wait a month before the election to register. DUmmies are idiots.

I registered several months ago and the first time I registered I got a card in the mail saying my name didn't match my DL or social security number (you only have to list one but I gave them both). I about shit my pants because I was afraid someone stole my SS number. I reregistered again and it took at least 6 weeks if not longer to get my voters registration card. I must have transposed a number or something the first time I registered.  I know it takes a long time to get your voters registration card in Texas because my son registered the same day I did (the second time around) and got his the same day I did.

I think same day voters registration is a terrible idea. If you can't take a few seconds to register a head of time you don't deserve to vote.

You shouldn't move around so much.   

[BEG]

You shouldn't move around so much.   

I wish I still lived closer to you.

[Undies]

I wish I still lived closer to you.

I know.  Me too. 

I still get upset when I think about the whole ordeal.  I suppose it was inevitable, though.

[seahorse513]

So you wait a month before the election to register. DUmmies are idiots.

I registered several months ago and the first time I registered I got a card in the mail saying my name didn't match my DL or social security number (you only have to list one but I gave them both). I about shit my pants because I was afraid someone stole my SS number. I reregistered again and it took at least 6 weeks if not longer to get my voters registration card. I must have transposed a number or something the first time I registered.  I know it takes a long time to get your voters registration card in Texas because my son registered the same day I did (the second time around) and got his the same day I did.

I think same day voters registration is a terrible idea. If you can't take a few seconds to register a head of time you don't deserve to vote.

I just moved last Friday.  i just got my first piece mail for this address. I just have to find the town offices!!

[USA4ME]

A HERETIC I AM

I HATE the fact that I might not be able to vote for my President, but frankly, if it wasn't for him, the "cash for clunkers" program and the other stimulus programs he has been able to effect, I'd still be where I was 14 months ago.

What a testimony!!

"If it weren't for the gov't, I'm too stupid to care for myself." - A HERETIC I AM

Of course, Skin's island is full of incompetent idiots like like this primitive.  The Founding Fathers would shame us for allowing this type of malcontent to continue to leech off the rest of us.

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[RobJohnson]

So you wait a month before the election to register. DUmmies are idiots.

I registered several months ago and the first time I registered I got a card in the mail saying my name didn't match my DL or social security number (you only have to list one but I gave them both). I about shit my pants because I was afraid someone stole my SS number. I reregistered again and it took at least 6 weeks if not longer to get my voters registration card. I must have transposed a number or something the first time I registered.  I know it takes a long time to get your voters registration card in Texas because my son registered the same day I did (the second time around) and got his the same day I did.

I think same day voters registration is a terrible idea. If you can't take a few seconds to register a head of time you don't deserve to vote.

Post your social security number in this thread and I will have one of my people look into it. 

[jtyangel]

I probably won't be able to vote either. Just moved about a month ago and have been inundated with the everyday:(. It sucks but there are rules and standards to be followed. Now to hope some dumbass does not fraudulently try to vote on my old address. Dirty bastards.

[Tucker]

When this tale of woe was posted, there were three threads on page one from DUmmies crying about how they were ineligible to vote.

My first thought was illegal aliens looking for fraud advice.

[ExGeeEye]

They let this guy put his PO Box on his DL?

I call BS right out of the gate.

On edit: I see what he did there.  Still...when I was in the Army, my home of record was my parents' house.  I only "got" mail there if I was in transit on PCS leave, and then I wasn't "home" long enough to collect it and they had to bundle it up and send it to my next duty station once I got there.

Dude says the mailbox is three (blocks? miles?) from his mom's.  So why bother?  Pick it up at the house, especially bills...save the mailbox for the ghey mags and vibrating phalli.

Final edit...but we don't expect 0bama voters to have a lot of spare brain cells for this kind of thinking, now do we.

[Toastedturningtidelegs]

I probably won't be able to vote either. Just moved about a month ago and have been inundated with the everyday:(. It sucks but there are rules and standards to be followed. Now to hope some dumbass does not fraudulently try to vote on my old address. Dirty bastards.

Yes you can. Just vote at your previous precinct where you lived. I think you can do that?

[jukin]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure, like that ever stopped a leftist before.

[BlueStateSaint]

Yes you can. Just vote at your previous precinct where you lived. I think you can do that?

Seeing that we'll still be technically in our apartment (between that and the townhouse), that's what I'm going to do.

[Randy]

Seeing that we'll still be technically in our apartment (between that and the townhouse), that's what I'm going to do.

Be like a DUmmie, vote in both. It'll help cancel out one of the million or 2 they'll do. 

[jtyangel]

Yes you can. Just vote at your previous precinct where you lived. I think you can do that?

I don't know...not sure if it's the same. So much has changed in the last few  years personally, I haven't kept up with any changes. I do know if I was going to change it, I don't think I will make the date. It's coming up in the next few days and I already have quite a bit on my plate to get that done before then.

[Boudicca]

Two (now three) questions re the dude using his Mom's address.

Does he not have to be at that address for a specified length of time prior to the election?

If he uses Mom's address but doesn't live there, isn't that some sort of fraud, and don't Demrats hate that sort of thing? (Well, they *say* they do.)

Edited to add third question:  In order to properly assign a Fla voter to the proper voting precinct and/or district, how would a simple mail box address allow that?

Another edit:  I just checked my Fla voter registration card, and it clearly states "Name and residence address".

So he puts down for residence "Smelly Truck, (make and model) parked on the corner of Hope and Change.  Nearest neighbor, the elusive bobbolink and her Buick.