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El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« on: September 24, 2012, 07:24:00 AM »
...for Traveler's Ins ...over asbestos...no less.

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Warren represented not just Travelers, but numerous other companies starting in the late 1990s working out of and using her Harvard Law School office in Cambridge, which she listed as her office of record on briefs filed with various courts.  Warren, however, never has been licensed to practice law in Massachusetts.
 
As detailed below, there are at least two provisions of Massachusetts law Warren may have violated.  First, on a regular and continuing basis she used her Cambridge office for the practice of law without being licensed in Massachusetts.  Second, in addition to operating an office for the practice of law without being licensed in Massachusetts, Warren actually practiced law in Massachusetts without being licensed.
 
Warren refused to disclose the full extent of her private law practice when asked by The Boston Globe.  If Warren denies that she has practiced law in Massachusetts without a license, Warren should disclose the full extent of her private law practice.  The public has a right to assess whether Warren has failed to comply with the most basic requirement imposed on others, the need to become a member of the Bar of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in order to practice law in and from Massachusetts.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/elizabeth-warrens-law-license-problem/

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 08:06:50 AM »
The Herald might do a story on this.  Anyone else?  Fuggedaboutit.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 08:15:26 AM »
Obama was never a law professor.

And Clinton was disbarred for perjury.

You have to ask, "Why do liberals flock to the legal profession and then fail at it so miserably?"

They remind me of the lawyers Jesus was always complaining about. You know, the ones who exploit the letter of The Law so as to abuse the spirit of The Law.

Maybe that's why they hate Jesus so much.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 08:17:16 AM »
Obama was never a law professor.

And Clinton was disbarred for perjury.

You have to ask, "Why do liberals flock to the legal profession and then fail at it so miserably?"

They remind me of the lawyers Jesus was always complaining about. You know, the ones who exploit the letter of The Law so as to abuse the spirit of The Law.

Maybe that's why they hate Jesus so much.

Also keep in mind that Los Angeles mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, he of the chair of the DNC convention a few short weeks ago, he who couldn't understand what a quorum meant, took the CA bar and failed it--FOUR TIMES.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2012, 09:09:10 AM »
If that brain dead faux squaw wins the election, I will have a heart attack. There is no way that someone that stupid could be elected. Wait, obama got elected, so it is possible.

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2012, 09:12:15 AM »
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@LegInsurrection Warren just admitted on #WTKK that she's not a member of MA Bar... #mapoli #masen http://tun.in/seo7F  pic.twitter.com/XXkshDhj

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2012, 09:13:17 AM »
^^ She just lost the election. She might as well back out while she still has some sort of dignity left.

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2012, 09:21:52 AM »
^^ She just lost the election. She might as well back out while she still has some sort of dignity left.

Why back out...she has already shown her ass and had no dignity to start with.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 09:35:57 AM »
...She might as well back out while she still has some sort of dignity left.

If they had dignity they wouldn't be whining, mewling little pusstards to begin with.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2012, 09:49:36 AM »
Just did a site search at DU, and not surprisingly, there is nothing there about this.

If it does appear, there will be multiple posts with explanations as to how it doesn't matter.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2012, 09:52:33 AM »
Just did a site search at DU, and not surprisingly, there is nothing there about this.

If it does appear, there will be multiple posts with explanations as to how it doesn't matter.

Since the RW blogs broke the story they either A) haven't gotten out of bed and heard it yet or B) are too scared of being accused of beng a RW troll or C) don't want to call attention to it lest the story go mainstream.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2012, 10:01:13 AM »
She don't need no stinking license, she's a democrat. Democrats make laws, they don't abide by them, laws, rules and regulations are for all those other people. Morals, ethics, laws and licenses don't apply to democrats
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2012, 10:01:46 AM »
Why back out...she has already shown her ass and had no dignity to start with.

If they had dignity they wouldn't be whining, mewling little pusstards to begin with.

Good points. I was trying to be nice in a regard that she might have an slither of dignity. But I guess not.


Just did a site search at DU, and not surprisingly, there is nothing there about this.

If it does appear, there will be multiple posts with explanations as to how it doesn't matter.

You won't see any of the MSM bring this up..

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2012, 10:26:19 AM »
Well I'll be damned.  What can happen to you if you practice law without a license?

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2012, 10:28:26 AM »
Well I'll be damned.  What can happen to you if you practice law without a license?

The REAL bottom feeders get pissed. :rant:
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 10:30:21 AM »
Well I'll be damned.  What can happen to you if you practice law without a license?

Mind you, she was doing this for cases that were before the SCOTUS.

The REAL bottom feeders get pissed. :rant:

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 10:46:14 AM »
Obama was never a law professor.

And Clinton was disbarred for perjury.

You have to ask, "Why do liberals flock to the legal profession and then fail at it so miserably?"

It's because they apply the same logic, clarity of thought, and standards of integrity to it that they do to all their other endeavors.  Hence Mr. and Mrs. Obama also both had to surrender their law licenses over separate and unrelated honesty problems, or so I hear.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 10:47:57 AM »
Mind you, she was doing this for cases that were before the SCOTUS.

DAT should be along in 3...2...1...

Copied from your sig line....

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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 11:24:17 AM »
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New Right-Wing Claim...Warren Practiced Law Without a License...

http://michellefields.com/2012/09/24/elizabeth-warren-had-private-law-practice-in-cambridge-for-over-a-decade-but-not-licensed-in-massachusetts/
 
I'm sure FOX with run with this...

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2. I think they may be stretching the definition of "practicing law."

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3. thanks again for sharing the right wing attacks with us on DU.

really.. aren't there any bad polling numbers to add today?

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4. A perfect "abuse of ignorance" story

There is nothing in the story that says she did anything wrong. It describes something that a person might assume to be something wrong.
 
The story doesn't say that she "practiced law" in MA, or that she did anything for which such a license was required.

Actually, the LI story alleges just that very thing.

You're abusing ignorance by claiming no such allegation exists.

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6. What do you think and why that source?

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7. And maybe if they did a little more research

they might discover she could have been admitted pro hac vice (for a specific case) in the instances where she was allegedly practicing law in MA. This is very common - a lawyer with particular expertise in a certain area might be asked to work as a consulting attorney in a state where they aren't licensed. The lawyer who is licensed in that state will move the admission of the consultant in a totally routine court appearance. It's done all the time. I'm sure Warren wasn't foolish enough to take MA clients without being licensed to do so, and I'm equally sure that if she had, that would have been discovered long ago.
 
This will bite the GOPers in the butt if they pursue it.



That's quite the hedge you have there.

But then there's this:



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10. And you posted a link to this RW blog why, exactly?

I haven't seen this mentioned in any of the MSM.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021406448

I'm not seeing a lot of substantive replies.

IOW: they recognize the seriousness of the charge.

Which is why I repeat:

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@LegInsurrection Warren just admitted on #WTKK that she's not a member of MA Bar... #mapoli #masen http://tun.in/seo7F  pic.twitter.com/XXkshDhj

https://twitter.com/JoeDu...atuses/250225780100055040
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 11:29:10 AM »
Oooh!

That thread is exploding.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 11:31:36 AM »
Your twitter link doesn't work, Sgt.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 11:39:20 AM »
NRO is saying you don't have to be licensed in your state of residency to argue federal cases.

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ANOTHER UPDATE: Another veteran lawyer writes in to Campaign Spot:
 
I have practiced law for 30 years.  Your correspondent is correct that a federal court can permit an attorney from a state outside the state wherein the federal court sits to appear before that court.  The practice is called “pro hac vice,” which is Latin for “for this occasion.”  Here are the pro hac vice requirements for the District Court of Mass, which would be the relevant court in this case.

However, this does not conclude the issue.  There would still need to be an attorney licensed in Mass. who moved for Ms. Warren to be admitted pro hac vice for the case at hand.  Such a document would have to be in the docket of the case as to which she was representing her client.  If Ms. Warren simply filed pleadings without first being admitted to the court pro hac vice, she would be implicitly representing to the court that she was, in fact, licensed to practice in Mass., and if she was not so licensed, she would have violated the court’s rules, and, in effect, have committed a fraud upon the court.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/328356/elizabeth-warren-unlicensed-lawyer#
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 11:45:36 AM »
NRO is saying you don't have to be licensed in your state of residency to argue federal cases.

ETA:

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/328356/elizabeth-warren-unlicensed-lawyer#


I suppose that might be the reason that Team Fauxcahountus will not be forthcoming with any further detail of her law practice.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 04:09:21 PM »


Her ancestors were here before the laws were enacted. She doesn't need one.
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Re: El Lizard Breath Warren practiced law without a license
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 04:14:54 PM »


Her ancestors were here before the laws were enacted. She doesn't need one.

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