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Wheezy (1,644 posts)   Wed Sep 19, 2012, 08:46 PM

My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list

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It's a dystopian fantasy that Kirkus Reviews called "The Hunger Games meets Harry Potter," and it was inspired by cuts to the arts program at my children's public school six years ago. I remember saying to my kids, "I'm so sorry -- it kind of feels like you're being punished for being creative." And then, as we writers often do, I mused, "What if there really *was* a world where children were punished for being creative?"

My son, who was 12 at the time, said, "Not just punished--sent to their deaths!"

It gave me a chill, so I wrote it.
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This seems like a rip off of a short story I read many years ago.  Children were tested and the intelligent ones were given an operation to dumb them down.

Most of the other DUmmies just kiss her ass for the success.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 10:03:26 PM »
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021380390

This seems like a rip off of a short story I read many years ago.  Children were tested and the intelligent ones were given an operation to dumb them down.

Most of the other DUmmies just kiss her ass for the success.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 10:04:58 PM »
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My son, who was 12 at the time...

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 10:06:48 PM »
Wait, so she is saying the smart successful kids are deliberately dragged down to everyone else's ability?  You mean like taking from people who are creative and work and giving that money to people who don't?

DUmmies just don't have any sense of nuance.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 10:18:06 PM »
You didn't build that DUmmie.

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 10:21:56 PM »
I checked the NYT list & couldn't find it.

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 10:29:21 PM »
Reminds me of poor departed DUmmy mythsaje.

He wrote novels of intergalactic vampire sex crimes, while housing his family in a crappy apartment where water dripped from the ceiling whenever the upstairs neighbor flushed a toilet.

The only time anyone took note of his writing was when Pam Dawson plagiarized his DUmp rant and posted it back on the DUmp as her own.

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 10:47:14 PM »
If this were true, I would say congratulations and I hope that you hand over 80% of your earnings to walk the talk.

Since it is not...
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 10:54:18 PM »
This plot device has been used a lot. There was a very good Outer Limits circa 1996 that used it in a prep school environment with "troubled" kids.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 11:11:41 PM »
You didn't build that DUmmie.

Vonnegut beat him to the punch about two generations ago, with his story of the 'Handicapper General.'
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2012, 11:23:38 PM »
Vonnegut beat him to the punch about two generations ago, with his story of the 'Handicapper General.'


I found the one I remembered.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2012, 11:36:32 PM »
The DUmmies all claim to be buying it up!

http://www.amazon.com/The-Unwanteds-Lisa-McMann/dp/1442407689


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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2012, 03:41:32 AM »
It was a Phineas and Ferb episode on the Disney channel a year or so ago.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2012, 05:34:07 AM »
The book "The Giver" by Lois Lowry.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2012, 06:16:41 AM »
The DUmmies all claim to be buying it up!

http://www.amazon.com/The-Unwanteds-Lisa-McMann/dp/1442407689

She looks like a primitive would look, although minus any bodily mutilations.
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2012, 07:27:33 AM »
From the reviews:

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The Unwanteds starts out a little like The Hunger Games and ends a little like Harry Potter.

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2012, 07:38:46 AM »
She looks like a primitive would look, although minus any bodily mutilations.

But naturally the subject matter has been used for years as it is all so true.   Think back in your life as a kid when you became creative, and were scolded for stepping outside the box.

Mom has a framed color drawing I did in Kindergarten in the 1950's.  

She tells me as I do not remember this myself, it was around Christmas time and she was called to the school.  My teacher was upset with me, she had given out pictures of Santa Clause to her class to be colored in with crayons.   The other students pictures were tacked to the wall but mine was handed to Mom with a reproachfull look.    Mom took one look and says she burst out laughing, my Santa wore a bright green suit, not the Red kind.  

Fast for ward to the 1980's, I am called to my sons 9 Th grade class because he would sneak in early and draw caricature's of the teacher on the black board. My son has a born talent to do this art work,  the work was so good the teacher was having a nervous break down.       I listened to her complaint  more about her problems and what not going on in her life.  My complaint was she had not taken a Polaroid of the upsetting pictures.  

All kids do some of the darnedest things, the problem  is when a child works out side the box using their curiosity and imagination,
As Albert Einsteins teachers told his Father---Your  boy will never amount to anything.

It is not so much the  potential locked into the mind of a child, this can remain there for life with out the proper unlocking of a teacher.   All these children with Learning problems and anger issues, ideas bouncing about 24/7 with no release, these children are our future and they need people able to understand and give their thoughts free wing to fly. Channel their ideas to where they are comfortable and can go on to what interests them under their own steam.

Parents are not educated to understand these things but teachers are suppose to be trained to do so, why else pay them to do no more then babysit.  This is what a Mentor is for,  to open the mind of a student and guide them.  

Every child has a brain that has potential, be they handi capped physically or  unless in a coma.     Blind and deaf from birth, then unlocked by a teacher ex trondear  Helen Keller gives hope to parents around the world of what can be one with an extraordinary teacher.  

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2012, 07:57:53 AM »
Even Uncle Buck addressed this subject!

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2012, 07:59:21 AM »
Think back in your life as a kid when you became creative, and were scolded for stepping outside the box.

Oh now, vesta, dear.

Back when I was in the first and second grades, 6-7 years old, my brain froze.

I refused to acknowledge the existence of numbers higher than "20."

There couldn't be any number higher than that; "20" was the maximum number possible; there was no such thing as a number higher than "20."

At school, I was pretty much left undisturbed in this notion, because my teachers knew and understood that I couldn't learn from them, and my education was, really, entrusted to "home-schooling" by the parents and older brothers and sisters.

The older brother in charge of my illumination about arithmetic, the one born the same day as the sparkling old dude, but in New York City, was in high school at the time.  I drove him nuts on this; he admitted there were times he wanted to slam me over the head with a hammer.

And this wasn't just a temporary, short-lived quirk; it lasted for nearly two whole years.  It was probably the hardest job he ever had, convincing me that there are numbers higher than "20."  He put a lot of hours he'd rather be spending playing baseball and football, trying to teach me.

I dunno how I finally got convinced there were in fact numbers larger than "20," because about the time I was coming to understand that, I learned about Roman numerals, and suddenly got it in my head there was no such number as "0" (Roman numerals have no symbol for "0").

All the way through the rest of grade school and high school, I spent endless hours in classrooms, trying to add, subtract, multiply, and divide, using Roman numerals.  I'm sure there's a way to do it, but damn, despite all the time I put into it, I never discovered how.

My teachers considered me a well-mannered little lad, but all I had to do for them was just sit at a desk and be quiet for six or seven hours a day, nothing more than that, as easy as strawberries-and-cream.  It was to the "home-schooling" teachers that I unknowingly presented formidable obstacles.

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2012, 11:00:50 AM »
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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2012, 11:12:06 AM »
Wait, so she is saying the smart successful kids are deliberately dragged down to everyone else's ability?  You mean like taking from people who are creative and work and giving that money to people who don't?

DUmmies just don't have any sense of nuance.

Didn't they make a movie about that?



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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2012, 11:13:34 AM »
  Think back in your life as a kid when you became creative, and were scolded for stepping outside the box.



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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2012, 11:58:58 AM »
It is not so much the  potential locked into the mind of a child, this can remain there for life with out the proper unlocking of a teacher.   All these children with Learning problems and anger issues, ideas bouncing about 24/7 with no release, these children are our future and they need people able to understand and give their thoughts free wing to fly. Channel their ideas to where they are comfortable and can go on to what interests them under their own steam.

Parents are not educated to understand these things but teachers are suppose to be trained to do so, why else pay them to do no more then babysit.  This is what a Mentor is for,  to open the mind of a student and guide them.  

Really. As a parent, I take offense to such an absurd statement.

And try telling that to formerlurker, a woman who works TIRELESSLY within her school district, at every level, to make sure that a parent's understanding of their children's potential is in fact recognized and fostered by the educators within her district's school system. A fight she fights every damn day.

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Re: My novel, THE UNWANTEDS, just hit the New York Times bestseller list
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2012, 12:18:50 PM »
Wait, so she is saying the smart successful kids are deliberately dragged down to everyone else's ability?  You mean like taking from people who are creative and work and giving that money to people who don't?

DUmmies just don't have any sense of nuance.

No shes not saying that at all, she only talking about the "arts". Which would be exactly how all of society was before motion pictures where artists were the lowest level in society.
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