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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2012, 09:11:54 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 16, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
Hello, Eupher. I invite you to share with us your prediction as to how Jewish voters will vote on the Presidential elections. That way we will gather here again after the election in order to measure each other's predictive accuracy. The difference between that prediction and the actual result will be a perfect measure for idiocy regarding this issue.

Ah, another one who says "Ready, Fire, Aim!"

C'mon, dude. How anybody in their right mind could post the trash that you just posted as support for a point of view is nothing short of idiocy.

What I think is irrelevant to the discussion. What IS relevant is your methodology in engaging in discussion.

Moronic.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2012, 09:13:12 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on September 16, 2012, 09:11:54 PM
Ah, another one who says "Ready, Fire, Aim!"

C'mon, dude. How anybody in their right mind could post the trash that you just posted as support for a point of view is nothing short of idiocy.

What I think is irrelevant to the discussion. What IS relevant is your methodology in engaging in discussion.

Moronic.
What else would you expect from a Hyde Park liberal?
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2012, 09:14:50 PM »
Quote from: Chris_ on September 16, 2012, 09:13:12 PM
What else would you expect from a Hyde Park liberal?

Why, nothing! Nothing at all!

FDR was a Hyde Park liberal. Maybe our latest chew toy is FDR's illegitimate 3rd cousin, twice removed.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2012, 09:34:29 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on September 16, 2012, 09:14:50 PM
Why, nothing! Nothing at all!

FDR was a Hyde Park liberal. Maybe our latest chew toy is FDR's illegitimate 3rd cousin, twice removed.
Talk about lowering property values.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2012, 10:40:49 PM »
No offense, noob--but just because someone cites a "conservative" source doesn't mean we automatically believe it.

I don't call WND "World Nuts Daily" for nothing.  Even the right has their versions of Truthout, Kos, etc.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 05:20:45 AM »
One thing is clear: Nobody here has dared answered my question as to what they think will happen with the Jewish vote. I have asked more than one member, including Mr. Mann, and I get no answer.

The reason is self-preservation. I sense very low confidence here regarding the prospects of the Jewish vote being significantly different from 2008. If it turns out to be relatively equal, Mr. Mann et. al. will be subject to questioning as to why in the world they thought the Jewish vote will differ significantly from 2008.

I will ask one last time: Will Romney win the Jewish vote? Will Obama receive a percentage of the Jewish vote that is significantly lower than 70%? If so, how much lower?

Thanks.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2012, 05:23:13 AM »
Uh oh, add the Jersusalem Post to the list of newspaper that according to some members here have been fooled by these false poll numbers: http://www.jpost.com/USPresidentialrace/Article.aspx?id=285336

Or maybe it's a conspiracy!
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2012, 05:48:32 AM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:20:45 AM
One thing is clear: Nobody here has dared answered my question as to what they think will happen with the Jewish vote.
First of all: I'm not answerable to trolls.
Secondly: I did post a link that you IGNORED.
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:23:13 AM
Uh oh, add the Jersusalem Post to the list of newspaper that according to some members here have been fooled by these false poll numbers: http://www.jpost.com/USPresidentialrace/Article.aspx?id=285336

Or maybe it's a conspiracy!
Or maybe you are just a troll.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2012, 06:27:49 AM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on September 17, 2012, 05:48:32 AM
First of all: I'm not answerable to trolls.
Secondly: I did post a link that you IGNORED.Or maybe you are just a troll.

The links you posted had nothing to do with your view as to what the Jewish vote will split on the Nov. 6 elections. You linked to a North Carolina poll, for some strange reason, and to a news article many years ago of Gallup finding Dukakis well ahead (I replied by telling you that the next month Gallup had Dukakis behind).

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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2012, 07:43:25 AM »
Do I think Romney will win the Jewish vote? It is hard to say, but I won't be surprised if it he doesn't. I don't remember the last time a Republican candidate did win the Jewish vote. Was it Reagan?

With how obama has repeatedly showed his hate for Israel and the Jewish people, it is quite posible that he 'COULD' lose it.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2012, 09:57:46 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 07:43:25 AM

With how obama has repeatedly showed his hate for Israel and the Jewish people, it is quite possible that he 'COULD' lose it.

Jews are under 2% of the population: but in certain states a few hundred unhappy Jewish voters could be the difference between Romney carrying the state or not.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2012, 10:01:31 AM »
Quote from: Ausonius on September 17, 2012, 09:57:46 AM
Jews are under 2% of the population: but in certain states a few hundred unhappy Jewish voters could be the difference between Romney carrying the state or not.

Yep, and I am hoping there are plenty of them in every state.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2012, 10:46:12 AM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:23:13 AM
Uh oh, add the Jersusalem Post to the list of newspaper that according to some members here have been fooled by these false poll numbers: http://www.jpost.com/USPresidentialrace/Article.aspx?id=285336

Or maybe it's a conspiracy!

Their source is the buzzfeed article, so you dont have a new source

If its not reported by any one of FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT or WaPo consider it a rumor at best
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2012, 10:50:45 AM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 07:43:25 AM
Do I think Romney will win the Jewish vote? It is hard to say, but I won't be surprised if it he doesn't. I don't remember the last time a Republican candidate did win the Jewish vote. Was it Reagan?

With how obama has repeatedly showed his hate for Israel and the Jewish people, it is quite posible that he 'COULD' lose it.

Weve never won the Jewish vote but Reagan has the record 39%, I think Romney could get around that much.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2012, 01:48:01 PM »
Quote from: BigTex on September 17, 2012, 10:46:12 AM
Their source is the buzzfeed article, so you dont have a new source

If its not reported by any one of FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT or WaPo consider it a rumor at best

lol. So the #1 newspaper in Israel, the conservative Washington Examiner and the WorldNetDaily reported this "rumor" as fact? http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-s-only-problem-with-jewish-voters-is-that-there-are-not-more-of-them

Oh yeah, I forgot the MSM sucks only depending on the situation.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2012, 01:53:48 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 01:48:01 PM
lol. So the #1 newspaper in Israel, the conservative Washington Examiner and the WorldNetDaily reported this "rumor" as fact? http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-s-only-problem-with-jewish-voters-is-that-there-are-not-more-of-them

Oh yeah, I forgot the MSM sucks only depending on the situation.

the MSM sucks for OPINION pieces for HARD NEWS they are the gold standard.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2012, 03:46:46 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 01:48:01 PM
lol. So the #1 newspaper in Israel, the conservative Washington Examiner and the WorldNetDaily reported this "rumor" as fact? http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-s-only-problem-with-jewish-voters-is-that-there-are-not-more-of-them

Oh yeah, I forgot the MSM sucks only depending on the situation.

I look at it this way: It is a non released poll. A newspaper from over seas runs the story, but no newspaper or news station here does. How is that possible? With a gap that huge, MSNBC, and the MSM would be having an hourly segment about it. With that, it is fake ...
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2012, 05:36:58 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
I look at it this way: It is a non released poll. A newspaper from over seas runs the story, but no newspaper or news station here does. How is that possible? With a gap that huge, MSNBC, and the MSM would be having an hourly segment about it. With that, it is fake ...

It's so fake, that Gallup just posted it. LOL.



But hey, good news! Romney has 27, not 25%!!!

Seriously. You were arguing that the top Israeli newsaper, the Worldnetdaily and the Washington Examiner were victims of the biggest hoax in the history of polling news. How likely is that? I followed common sense. You have learned your lesson.

http://pollingmatters.gallup.com/2012/09/update-obama-vs-romney-by-religious.html
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2012, 05:39:43 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
It's so fake, that Gallup just posted it. LOL.



But hey, good news! Romney has 27, not 25%!!!

Seriously. You were arguing that the top Israeli newsaper, the Worldnetdaily and the Washington Examiner were victims of the biggest hoax in the history of polling news. How likely is that? I followed common sense. You have learned your lesson.

http://pollingmatters.gallup.com/2012/09/update-obama-vs-romney-by-religious.html

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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2012, 05:47:09 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 05:39:43 PM
Gallop is Pro-Big Ears; I don't follow them...

Nothing to worry about. The report is fake. Remember?
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2012, 05:51:48 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:47:09 PM
Nothing to worry about. The report is fake. Remember?

Yep, because just like the rest of the MSM, Gallop is over sampling Dems to make obama look like the winner. Which is why I don't follow the polls.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2012, 05:56:15 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 05:51:48 PM
Yep, because just like the rest of the MSM, Gallop is over sampling Dems to make obama look like the winner. Which is why I don't follow the polls.

What should the sample be like?
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2012, 06:04:30 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
What should the sample be like?

If they are sampling three groups (Independents, Dems, and Repubs), it should be 33% across the board. They been over sampling Dems by margins of 11%+. Which is a con.

The thing you have to look at with that is that even with the over sampling, obama is only a 1 or 2 points ahead in a national poll. That tells you that Captain Zero is in trouble.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2012, 06:16:58 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 17, 2012, 05:56:15 PM
What should the sample be like?

What do you think it should be like to show an accurate assessment? 

Were you born ****ing stupid or did you have to practice at it?

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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2012, 06:18:21 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 17, 2012, 06:04:30 PM
If they are sampling three groups (Independents, Dems, and Repubs), it should be 33% across the board. They been over sampling Dems by margins of 11%+. Which is a con.

The thing you have to look at with that is that even with the over sampling, obama is only a 1 or 2 points ahead in a national poll. That tells you that Captain Zero is in trouble.

For the love of Pete...  Stop feeding the damn troll.

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