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Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« on: September 15, 2012, 02:47:46 AM »
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"President Barack Obama is closing extending his lead with Jewish voters, leading among registered voters 70-25 percent according to unreleased Gallup daily tracking poll data .
The data, obtained through a Democratic source, shows Obama up from leading 64-29 in polling this spring — and on par with his 2008 performance at this point when he led 69-25 over John McCain in Gallup polling. The data is drawn from tracking polls taken between July 1 and September 10th."

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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2012, 03:33:39 AM »
Quote from: pandric on September 15, 2012, 02:47:46 AM
September 14:

"President Barack Obama is closing extending his lead with Jewish voters, leading among registered voters 70-25 percent according to unreleased Gallup daily tracking poll data .
The data, obtained through a Democratic source, shows Obama up from leading 64-29 in polling this spring — and on par with his 2008 performance at this point when he led 69-25 over John McCain in Gallup polling. The data is drawn from tracking polls taken between July 1 and September 10th."

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If the data is unreleased then how did an amateur site get it and none of the MSM did?

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Texas Insider Report: WASHINGTON, D.C. – President Obama’s support among Jewish voters is down 19% since his 2008 election victory, a new poll reveals. Conducted during the Democratic National Convention’s omission of God and Jerusalem as the capital of Israel from their platform, only to have an effort to reinsert the two items booed by Obama delegates — further found that Romney garners 35% of the Jewish vote, the poll says. 
The poll — recent Investor’s Business Daily/Christian Science Monitor/TIPP Poll, released Monday, found that while President Obama leads in overall polling — 46% to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s 44% — his support among Jewish voters has dropped from 78% in 2008 to 59% today.

http://www.texasinsider.org/?p=66767
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2012, 06:53:24 AM »
Well, pandric is in for a big shock when Jewish voters show up to the polls angry about what happened at the DNC.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2012, 07:23:18 AM »
We will find out how stupid or smart voters of any religion are in November: the man's hostility to Israel and to Judaism and to the Catholic Church and to Christianity in general has been on display during his entire career.

He is NOT a religious person: his not too hidden atheism is there for anyone exerting effort and intelligence to see.

Polls right now - except perhaps for Rasmussen, the most accurate - are not to be trusted.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2012, 07:59:31 AM »
Just about guarantee you, if true, the 25% comprise survivors and children of the Shoah.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2012, 08:23:29 AM »
Quote from: ExGeeEye on September 15, 2012, 07:59:31 AM
Just about guarantee you, if true, the 25% comprise survivors and children of the Shoah.

Agreed!  "If true" is right: I still think MAObama has lost more of the Jewish vote - and I hope votes of all religious believers - than the usual MSM polls are claiming.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2012, 08:37:02 AM »
Polls are not to be trusted - Except maybe Rasmussen. Especially the ones from the MSM. They are all over sampling Democrats to make obama look like his is going to win by a landslide.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2012, 10:34:42 AM »
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September 14:

according to unreleased Gallup daily tracking poll data.
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Quote from: pandric on September 15, 2012, 02:47:46 AM
September 14:

"President Barack Obama is closing extending his lead with Jewish voters, leading among registered voters 70-25 percent according to unreleased Gallup daily tracking poll data .
The data, obtained through a Democratic source, shows Obama up from leading 64-29 in polling this spring — and on par with his 2008 performance at this point when he led 69-25 over John McCain in Gallup polling. The data is drawn from tracking polls taken between July 1 and September 10th."

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Pandric our liberal propaganda source gets a bitch slap for printing a lie.
No one has seen this but you present it as fact. With no link to the source, its a LIE.

Pandric, doing his part to demoralize opposition voters. Sucks to be you, O will lose in a landslide.
Why? He has no new voters. Millions who voted for in in 2008 are abandoning him in 2012. They are not being replaced. Blacks are voting at 2004 levels, not at 2008 levels. No hopey/changey surge this year Where is O campaigning? States that ought to be safe democrat strongholds..
Democrats are voting for Romney or staying home. Blacks are staying home. Independents are overwhelmingly for Romney. all this spells one thing: Landslide.

Remember Anthony Weiner, Pandric? He had a Jewish district. They voted in a gentile conservative over a Jewish liberal, This is New York, and the Jewish voters went GOP for the first time in 80 years.
Pandric, you are full of sh!t. Thanks for playing. Now run along. Spread your lies somewhere else.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2012, 11:34:26 AM »
Bless his/her/it's heart, this pandick unit is lame.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2012, 03:26:29 PM »
It doesn't fail to amaze me when people will vote for people who have openly and routinely shown that they will not work in your best interest.

In this case Jewish people, but also any black person voting democrat....the party of segregation/jimcrow/slaver/and now the welfare plantation.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2012, 03:43:15 PM »
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September 14:

"President Barack Obama is closing extending his lead with Jewish voters, leading among registered voters 70-25 percent according to unreleased Gallup daily tracking poll data .
The data, obtained through a Democratic source, shows Obama up from leading 64-29 in polling this spring — and on par with his 2008 performance at this point when he led 69-25 over John McCain in Gallup polling. The data is drawn from tracking polls taken between July 1 and September 10th."

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I'll never understand why people vote against their best interest.

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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2012, 10:28:01 PM »
Quote from: Conservative_Sangfroid on September 15, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
It doesn't fail to amaze me when people will vote for people who have openly and routinely shown that they will not work in your best interest.

In this case Jewish people, but also any black person voting democrat....the party of segregation/jimcrow/slaver/and now the welfare plantation.

I think the best way to sum that up is say that they all have Stockholm Syndrome. It is the only thing that makes sense to me. Any other argument is just insane.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2012, 08:15:35 AM »
Quote from: Conservative_Sangfroid on September 15, 2012, 03:26:29 PM
It doesn't fail to amaze me when people will vote for people who have openly and routinely shown that they will not work in your best interest.

In this case Jewish people, but also any black person voting democrat....the party of segregation/jimcrow/slaver/and now the welfare plantation.

We have supposed Catholics who think BIG BRObama can do no wrong "because he's against war and helps the poor."  Although it is demonstrable that he does none of those things via his policies, and that he supports policies openly hostile to the Catholic Church, they respond "Oh you have to look at the bigger picture!"

So tossing welfare checks to "the poor," surrendering in Afghanistan, and kowtowing to Islamic radicals trump the immorality of killing babies, promoting sexual licentiousness, guaranteeing a rise in mortality among the elderly through worse health care, and stealing the financial future of America to buy votes today.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2012, 09:18:29 AM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on September 15, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
Pandric our liberal propaganda source gets a bitch slap for printing a lie.
No one has seen this but you present it as fact. With no link to the source, its a LIE.

Pandric, doing his part to demoralize opposition voters. Sucks to be you, O will lose in a landslide.
Why? He has no new voters. Millions who voted for in in 2008 are abandoning him in 2012. They are not being replaced. Blacks are voting at 2004 levels, not at 2008 levels. No hopey/changey surge this year Where is O campaigning? States that ought to be safe democrat strongholds..
Democrats are voting for Romney or staying home. Blacks are staying home. Independents are overwhelmingly for Romney. all this spells one thing: Landslide.

Remember Anthony Weiner, Pandric? He had a Jewish district. They voted in a gentile conservative over a Jewish liberal, This is New York, and the Jewish voters went GOP for the first time in 80 years.
Pandric, you are full of sh!t. Thanks for playing. Now run along. Spread your lies somewhere else.

Mr. Mann, what do you think the Jewish vote will look like? Will Obama win by a large or small margin? Will Romney win the Jewish vote? You made some arguments that were not accompanied by a concrete explanation of what you think will happen. It would be useful to compare your prediction to the actual result. Thanks.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2012, 09:43:57 AM »
Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%

70% of American Joooos think Stalin and Hitler were fine fellows looking out for the best interest of the Jooooos.

Sheeesh....and I always thought Joooooos were so smart.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2012, 11:55:52 AM »
Quote from: pandric on September 16, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
Mr. Mann, what do you think the Jewish vote will look like? Will Obama win by a large or small margin? Will Romney win the Jewish vote? You made some arguments that were not accompanied by a concrete explanation of what you think will happen. It would be useful to compare your prediction to the actual result. Thanks.
First of all, I'm not answerable to trolls.
The new GOP congressman from Weiner's Jewish district is history: I suggest to Google it yourself.
But since I am a fair Mannn, here is an article you might find interesting.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/obama-polling-worse-among-jews-than-any-dem-in-32-years/
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Obama reportedly scored 76 percent of the Jewish  vote in 2008. Carter picked up 71 percent in 1976. By 1980, Carter was down to 45 percent. The latest polls show Obama down to 59 percent among Jews.

That simple percentage change may be enough to push New York and Florida to Romney.

Lets add to the fact that NO ONE is enthusiastic about The Presidential Boy Wonder.
Black America is no longer enthusiastic. They may not vote for Romney, but they will stay home. Polls are showing Blacks will vote at 2004 levels, not at the amazing 2008 levels. That percentage change could turn several states to Romney.

Students will stay at home, no surge there.
Women never bought the "War on Women" lie of the democrats.
Catholics are turning against Obama in large number.
Independants are overwhelmingly for Romney.
Polls that show Obama ahead are deliberately skewed by oversampling democrats. Including the one you are quoting.

Conclusion: Obama is Hemorrhaging voters from every group that supported him in 2008. those voters are not being replaced. Obama loses. Big. Not even democrat fraud will save him now.

Pandric, take your song and dance elsewhere. Its not working. 2010 should have been your first clue. The show of support for Chick Fil A should have given you another clue. America cannot wait to kick the a$$hole democrats out of congress and the White House. You lose.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2012, 12:09:06 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 15, 2012, 02:47:46 AM
September 14:

"President Barack Obama is closing extending his lead with Jewish voters, leading among registered voters 70-25 percent according to unreleased Gallup daily tracking poll data .
The data, obtained through a Democratic source, shows Obama up from leading 64-29 in polling this spring — and on par with his 2008 performance at this point when he led 69-25 over John McCain in Gallup polling. The data is drawn from tracking polls taken between July 1 and September 10th."

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 :rofl: :lol: :rotf: :lmao:

I just love it when these yahoos come waltzing onto a site baring their idiocy for all to see.

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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2012, 12:56:29 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on September 16, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
:rofl: :lol: :rotf: :lmao:

I just love it when these yahoos come waltzing onto a site baring their idiocy for all to see.

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Hello, Eupher. I invite you to share with us your prediction as to how Jewish voters will vote on the Presidential elections. That way we will gather here again after the election in order to measure each other's predictive accuracy. The difference between that prediction and the actual result will be a perfect measure for idiocy regarding this issue.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2012, 03:53:58 PM »
Hey Panprick, remember this?
Gallup Poll: Dukakis leads Bush by 17 points
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1901&dat=19880727&id=_gwqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jtMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4605,6773335

You're not presenting anything new. Its the same old propaganda we've all heard before.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2012, 04:00:37 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 16, 2012, 12:56:29 PM
Hello, Eupher. I invite you to share with us your prediction as to how Jewish voters will vote on the Presidential elections. That way we will gather here again after the election in order to measure each other's predictive accuracy. The difference between that prediction and the actual result will be a perfect measure for idiocy regarding this issue.

Ya gotta love the C/P noobs who think they're sooooooo much smarter than everyone else.

Okay, no we don't.  You're a ****ing tool.  Hit the ****in road, Jack.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2012, 04:57:54 PM »
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2012, 05:39:15 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on September 16, 2012, 03:53:58 PM
Hey Panprick, remember this?
Gallup Poll: Dukakis leads Bush by 17 points
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1901&dat=19880727&id=_gwqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jtMEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4605,6773335

You're not presenting anything new. Its the same old propaganda we've all heard before.

Mr. Mann, I sure remember that July article on the Gallup poll. I also remember another article the next month, entitled, "Bush Leads Dukakis, 48% to 44%, in Gallup Poll." http://articles.latimes.com/1988-08-24/news/mn-820_1_gallup-poll

Bush went on to win by 8%.

Is your point that Gallup will be way off in the Jewish vote prediction this year?
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2012, 06:28:51 PM »
Why doesn't Pandric furnish the link to where he got this unreleased poll? I mean if he can get it, I am sure every MSM news org out there would want it also.
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2012, 08:06:25 PM »
Quote from: Kyle Ricky on September 16, 2012, 06:28:51 PM
Why doesn't Pandric furnish the link to where he got this unreleased poll? I mean if he can get it, I am sure every MSM news org out there would want it also.

I don't have a direct link, but the most widely circulated newspaper in Israel and the conservative WorldNetDaily fell for what you think is a hoax. I'll be in good company if your suspicions are proved right.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4281750,00.html
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gallup-70-of-u-s-jews-support-obama/?cat_orig=politics
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Re: Obama leads among Jewish voters 70%-25%
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2012, 08:41:01 PM »
Quote from: pandric on September 16, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
I don't have a direct link, but the most widely circulated newspaper in Israel and the conservative WorldNetDaily fell for what you think is a hoax. I'll be in good company if your suspicions are proved right.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4281750,00.html
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/gallup-70-of-u-s-jews-support-obama/?cat_orig=politics

Since the WND source is the Israel news thats really only 1 source and the Israel news is poorly translated and it doesnt even list a source.
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