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Offline SoapyDial

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What do you guys think?
« on: September 10, 2012, 02:51:39 PM »
Has anyone heard about that new movie Blood Bodies and Oil, it blames France and Germany for the Iraq war?

It also accuses Obama and the Dems of being Euro Socialist losers. I saw the trailer should I buy the movie and play it for my Lib friends? It gets lonely being a real Conservative amongst a bunch of pan handling liberal friends!

I mean a friend of mine sent me to the website to see the trailer and the movie is a documentary and looked pretty good to me. But I could really use some input from you all! Help a girl out here. The website is www.bloodbodiesandoil.com

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2012, 03:02:44 PM »
No, I've not heard of the movie.

The link you provided does not resolve.

This is your first post here, I would recommend going to the introductions & subsequent welcomes board and introduce yourself.

It can be found here...

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/board,8.0.html
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2012, 03:05:24 PM »
Interesting premise, but I wish the narrator didn't talk to me like I was a toddler.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 03:11:59 PM »
The website being down is frustrating as it was running earlier. Grrrr :banghead: lol But thanks to the trailer provided we can still discuss the film :yahoo:

I will have to keep checking the site so I know when I can buy a copy. LOL (if we decide it is worth the buy... the narrator can't be that bad, right?)

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 03:17:44 PM »
But I could really use some input from you all! Help a girl out here.

1.  If all of your friends are pan handling libs, find new places to hang out and new people to be friends with.

2.  Feel free to post a larger picture of yourself like the one you have in your avatar.  Make sure it's in profile and full length.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 03:19:52 PM »
1.  If all of your friends are pan handling libs, find new places to hang out and new people to be friends with.

2.  Feel free to post a larger picture of yourself like the one you have in your avatar.  Make sure it's in profile and full length.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 03:21:53 PM »
"We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and then bid the geldings to be fruitful."

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Re: What do you guys think?
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 03:28:38 PM »
From the trailer, it could be certainly worth their while, but as Chris_ said, the narrator's tone is quite insulting to the viewer's intelligence.

You look amazing SoapyDial, I used to be surrounded by liberals, but then I moved out to AZ. :)

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2012, 03:43:36 PM »
Honestly it seems kind of a far-flung premise.  G. W. Bush and Colin Powell grossly overestimated Iraq's nuclear (And other WMD) programs on almost no real evidence because it was what they wanted to believe, a lot like LBJ and the Gulf of Tonkin incident.  Unlike Afghanistan under the Taliban, he didn't have and never did develop anything publicly-released that showed Saddam had Jack to do with al-Q'aeda, who were as big a threat to the secular Ba'athists as they were to the West, if not more. 

It was either incredibly poor decision-making based on wishful thinking and unicorn magic, or a fiendishly-clever manipulation of the situation to take down an implacable long-term foe when the opportunity presented, even though Saddam wasn't actually a current threat to us at the time.  I'm not sure which.

The problem with relying on hyper-classified intel for such decisions is that there really isn't anyone to do a reality check on it, because everyone who actually has enough access to it to have a meaningful opinion has already bought a ticket on the Administration's crazy train, since the three biggest votes on it are all Presidential appointees - SecState, SecDef, and National Security Advisor.  The CIA itself has a pretty long history of telling the President what the SecState thinks he wants to hear by the time the intel gets to the top of the food chain, no matter what the actual intelligence analysts think of it.
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2012, 05:16:06 PM »
Clicked the link, read the synopsis.

I find it difficult to believe that France and Germany are at war with the US or that they plotted to get America involved in the Iraq war. I doubt that France is capable in cooperating with Germany or any other country on a level that secret.
This sound like one of the weirdo conspiracy theories floating about. Maybe the Late Nite with George Noori crowd might go for this: their standards for evidence and logic are far lower.

If there was any validity to this there would be a lot more evidence in the news...taint none.

Conclusion: its crap. Don't show it to your lib friends. Don't buy it or show it to your conservative friends.
Delete the link from your hard drive and get along with the rest of your life.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2012, 01:24:34 PM »
Referring to it being a conspiracy theory... I loved that movie! Mel Gibson Rocked, ergo... I must like this one... right? LOL But here is what I am going to say... I am neither pro nor con on this movie, but simply disregarding a film because you think it may be a conspiracy theory, well that is close minded. There are many theories that have turned out to be far more than just theory. See here for examples.... http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html
Anyways, I am still quite intrigued by the film and its not like it is super expensive... So let's talk some more and then we will totally make my mind up for me! LOL(You would think I was a DEM)


Also, the site appears to be back up now... and thanks to those who are complimenting me, I am effervescent with delight.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2012, 01:42:23 PM »
Referring to it being a conspiracy theory... I loved that movie! Mel Gibson Rocked, ergo... I must like this one... right? LOL But here is what I am going to say... I am neither pro nor con on this movie, but simply disregarding a film because you think it may be a conspiracy theory, well that is close minded. There are many theories that have turned out to be far more than just theory. See here for examples.... http://www.cracked.com/article_15974_7-insane-conspiracies-that-actually-happened.html
Anyways, I am still quite intrigued by the film and its not like it is super expensive... So let's talk some more and then we will totally make my mind up for me! LOL(You would think I was a DEM)


Also, the site appears to be back up now... and thanks to those who are complimenting me, I am effervescent with delight.


IE her first post was a pre-concieved notion. There was never any intent of dialogue, she asked and you answered, so what does she do? She resets the whole premise and asures you that she will be more open to opinion going forward.

Have fun with your new chew toy.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2012, 01:52:47 PM »

IE her first post was a pre-concieved notion. There was never any intent of dialogue, she asked and you answered, so what does she do? She resets the whole premise and assures you that she will be more open to opinion going forward.

Have fun with your new chew toy.



Amen!   O-)  If "Soapy" is legitimate, she will take the advice above that such a theory is moronic and any movie based on it is not worth the time of an intelligent person.

Go see 2016 instead.
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2012, 02:04:22 PM »
I am tempted to lock this as spam for reasons I can not divulge but wish to allow leeway to a perhaps just enthusiastic new member.

It would be appreciated if the OP stopped by the introductions thread and got herself aquainted with everyone here and what drew her to CC.

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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2012, 02:06:26 PM »
Legitimate? How would I be illegitimate? Because one person had a conspiracy theory idea, one person had a very well thought about and stated idea where they put in thoughts about the premise and their opinion about Bush and Colin Powell. A couple others have been short and said they find it to be interesting but that the narrator sounds like a fool. So how is this me with a made up mind? This is simply me looking for further input. And of course I will look into your suggested film as well. Jerk.

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2012, 02:07:26 PM »
Boobs, or it didn't happen. That or bacon........pie........
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2012, 02:14:22 PM »
I am tempted to lock this as spam for reasons I can not divulge but wish to allow leeway to a perhaps just enthusiastic new member.

It would be appreciated if the OP stopped by the introductions thread and got herself aquainted with everyone here and what drew her to CC.

My first thought was: "This is advertising for the movie 'she' is mentioning."
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2012, 02:14:59 PM »
Legitimate? How would I be illegitimate? Because one person had a conspiracy theory idea, one person had a very well thought about and stated idea where they put in thoughts about the premise and their opinion about Bush and Colin Powell. A couple others have been short and said they find it to be interesting but that the narrator sounds like a fool. So how is this me with a made up mind? This is simply me looking for further input. And of course I will look into your suggested film as well. Jerk.

You are simply not interested in feedback. All your doing, for whatever reason, is pushing this video.

You have recieved the feedback you have allegedly requested and what do you do with it?

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You got it and now you are trying move the goal posts, I ain't buying it.
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Re: What do you guys think?
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2012, 02:30:39 PM »
Boobs, or it didn't happen. That or bacon........pie........

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