cynatnite (26,017 posts)
I proved to my sister that she hates Obama more than she supports Rmoney...
Last edited Sat Sep 8, 2012, 12:50 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
She hit all the RW talking points...even the most idiotic ones. No matter how much evidence I showed her, she would ignore it and move on to something else. In the middle of the discussion about Obamacare she suddenly typed "show me the birth certificate". I was a bit taken back because it came out of the blue. I wondered if she harbored birther sentiments.
I copied and pasted the relevant information from the constitution and also the Naturalization Act of 1790. I wondered for a second if I had actually convinced her.
She went on with all the talking points about Obamacare and I hit her with Romneycare in Massachusetts. I told her she can thank Mitt Romney for Obamacare.
She was a bit pissed. She continued on FB to post more RW crap about Obama and I decided to just stop her with facts with every one of them.
Then finally she posted another pic saying that Obama screwed up the US and he's fired...you know...blah blah blah. Anyway, I laughed about it and ridiculed the picture for it's revisionism. It was really funny.
Finally I just told her that she hates Obama more than she supports Rmoney. The evidence is the fact that she did not post one thing that supports a Rmoney presidency.
So, then she deletes every FB posting she made for the night and only said two words to me: "**** You".
I love my sister and she'll get over this, but I know she won't change her mind one bit. She's got a racist streak in her and I hate that she's teaching her kids this crap, but there's nothing I can do about it. I hope that I can somehow influence at least the older one since she is on FB.
Anyway, that the best way I have found to deflate a Rmoney supporter. They hate Obama more than they support Rmoney.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021300309I have to admit that at first, I was only going to vote for Romney because 0bama has to go. Then after I started hearing more about Romney and the kind of man he is my support grew for Romney. Is he perfect? No, but he seems to have his heart in the right place and if anyone can put this country on the right economic track then it is Romney. He may let us down, but I have hope that in 4 years he won't be running on "Give me four more years I will get it right this time".
Mojorabbit (11,417 posts)
2. Same here. I finally just gave up
Both her and her husband do not care about facts. I am really amazed that this has happened to her but I know when to give up.
I care about facts, and facts show me that this country is much worse off than it was 4 years ago. You goons can spin until you get dizzy, but you can't argue against what is really happening. You can't tell me our energy policies have worked when it takes $40 to fill a 15 gallon tank, you can't tell me his economic policies have worked when I am lucky just to have a job even with sucky pay, when I go to the grocery store and I buy the same amount of stuff and the price goes up every few weeks. You can't tell me how he is a job creator because 96k jobs were created last month when those jobs are the Mcjobs you lefties used to whine about, and on top of that 360k people fell off the unemployment rolls and not because they found work. It is you fools who wouldn't know a fact if it hit you square on the chin.
central scrutinizer (5,414 posts)
33. same here, minus the racist part
Whenever I debunk her forwarded right wing screeds, she counters with, "well my sovereign lord Jesus Christ will sort it all out when he returns." Then I slap my forehead and give up.
Carolina (5,128 posts)
28. while I agree
and fortunately, am not in that situation, it would be hard for me to overlook such hatred, vitriol and racism in anyone!
This is especially so because the rightwingers -- kin and non-kin -- are always loudly vociferous, in your face and WRONG. We can only be quiet, tolerant, and turn the other cheek for so long. Such willful ignornace in someone whose last resort retort is "**** You" is exactly why this country is doomed. Sorry, to the OP, but people like her sister are akin to weeds and roaches because they spread their ignorance and the hatred.
Where do they get this shit? You have story after story on DU where they jumped into conversations that other people were having and "schooled them". I never discuss politics unless someone else brings it up, I listen to their opinion and give them mine. I don't try to convert the entire line at Publix every time I go shopping.
mykpart (3,571 posts)
9. I think the people who vote for Romney this year
are simply voting against Obama. It wouldn't matter if Satan was running against Obama. But then I remember when John Kerry ran, and my fave Dem slogan was "Anybody but Bush!." I believe these people would hate Obama if he were white, but if they can villainize a black President, it validates their racism.
So judging a man by the content of his character and his actions is racism? I never knew MLK was such a racist.
bhikkhu (6,706 posts)
11. Some people's minds just revolve around hate
I don't get it myself, but its pretty easy to recognize in people once you look for it. There is always a favored group that is exempt from judgement, and then everyone else is subject to some type of hatred or other for some kind of deficiency or other.
It may be based on anything at all, but I think the dominant theme is general hatred of people. Once you hate people in general, its easy to justify and vocalize by hating mexicans and blacks as groups (for example - the list could go on to chinese, gays, jews, catholics, muslims, bankers, liberals, etc), for whatever grab-bag of despicable traits. Whatever the reason that is given to hate a group, I think the hate comes first, and the rest is just window dressing.
But then people can also imagine themselves to not be racist or bigots, as they can point out black and mexican members of the "favored group", which they of course imagine themselves to belong to as well. Everyone wishes to be good and kind, so allowing exceptions offers proof of that. The essential thing is that there is only a small group which is fit to be rulers and owners, and the notion of equality is the biggest barrier to what the bigot imagines justice to be.
Have you ever read DU? DU is full of hate and racism.
Freddie (574 posts)
24. Don't attempt to reason with the "pro-lifers"
They have one issue and that is all.
"Obama supports killing babies up to the moment of birth" is a big one. The worst are the idiots who think that EC and the Pill are "arbortifacients"; they rant on about "forcing churches to pay for drugs that cause abortion".
Support for the baby *after birth*? Acknowledgment of the mother as a human being? Forget it.
Brainwashed sheep.
Don't attempt to reason with the pro abortionists. They are all for killing the innocent.
Mariana (1,769 posts)
29. They go even further than that
and claim Obama supports killing babies after they're born. Seriously. You're right, they can't be reasoned with.
Then why did 0bama vote against a bill that would protect the babies who survived the butchers known as the abortion doctors?
HopeHoops (39,786 posts)
36. Face it - there's nothing about rMoney to support. It's all about hating Obama, Dem and black.
That's all they see. He's a Democrat and he's black. There's really nothing positive to present regarding rMoney, or rLyan for that matter. All they have are negatives and no specifics on what they would do. "Trust me" from a guy who is hiding what has to be some pretty damning stuff in his tax returns? I don't think so.
Yeah Romney and Ryan are just a couple of goofballs, they spent all their time in college smoking weed and drinking beer, they have no business experience and have no knowledge of the economy at all. Oh wait that is 0bama.
It's no surprise that the scumbags at DU can look at 2 good men and think they are evil, then look at 0bama and think he is such a wonder person.
