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Offline Kyle Ricky

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Studies have found that students who get average grades in high school do better in college than students who get high grades. They also found that students to get average grades in college have better careers than students who have high grades. The reason being that the students with the average grades try harder. Not saying that every student who gets high grades doesn't try. But that is just how the study came out. 

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It seems the left are the ones who think everyone should go to college whereas the right advocates trade schools. I have a cousin who's an electrician, he makes a heck of a lot more money then many people with masters degrees, another cousin is a home builder who also does home repairs, all he has is a high school diploma, and he's doing very well.
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Any half decent skilled tradesman will run you close to $100 / hr and that's just mon-fri rates.

Odds are pretty good that not a huge number of the people with advanced degrees make that much.

You do know that if they charge $100/hr that isnt how much they make right?
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Actually the Democrat approach to education IS that everyone gets masters degrees, no matter how low they have to set the bar in the courses and no matter how much the taxpayer has to go in the hole to meet the runaway inflation in college costs that will flow from it.  This is because they don't understand causation or logic.  Their big meme is that "People who have college educations and graduate degrees make more money," which is true as far as it goes, but then they commit the logic/causality fault of taking it to "Therefore, if everyone has college or graduate degrees, everyone will make more money."  They don't understand that the reason people who had degrees made more money wasn't because they had a college degree, it was because under the existing system the college graduates were already taken from the smartest, most motivated, and even to an extent the 'luckiest' fraction of the population.
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Step son realized he was never going to be a doctor or a lawyer. Went to welding school. His female cousin, who is a very lovely young lady and I love her dearly, went to a first rate university and obtained a liberal arts degree.

Care to guess who has a job and who doesn't?

Step son is being forced to take vacation since he has completed his projects for a major oil company. His bosses told him they didn't want to see him for a month.

Cousin is doing file work for a law firm while she weighs her options.

Point is, education is merely the admission ticket to life. It is what each individual does with his or her ticket that makes life worth living.

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Irony can be a bitch.

My wife's father told her and her four brothers he could only afford to send just one to college. The one brother had a partial scholarship so got the nod and earned a degree.

The other three brothers and my wife all started their own businesses.

The irony is all four businesses were successful and the one with the degree ?  He comes to visit and asks for money  because he can't seem to get a job with his degree.

And guess who is/was a liberal. He became a conservative after 9/11.  


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Irony can be a bitch.

My wife's father told her and her four brothers he could only afford to send just one to college. The one brother had a partial scholarship so got the nod and earned a degree.

The other three brothers and my wife all started their own businesses.

The irony is all four businesses were successful and the one with the degree ?  He comes to visit and asks for money  because he can't seem to get a job with his degree.

And guess who is/was a liberal. He became a conservative after 9/11.  


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My GOP "friends" do not get it. I ask them "What if everyone had a Masters Degree"??

Well, DUmbass, what if frogs had wings?  Masters Degrees would become more worthless than the paper upon which they are printed and we'd need bigger fly swatters.

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The GOP never think they are "lucky". They think they earned everything. And anyone not in their class didn't work hard enough.

No, stupid, we have very differing views on what "luck" entails.  What you consider "luck" is what I consider preparation meeting opportunity (hat tip to Rush Limbaugh).  To me, "luck" is when I drop the toast and it doesn't land on the counter butter side down.  Unlike you, I prepare and continue to practice so that when the opportunity arises, I am ready as opposed to you who has nothing but a piece of paper and "hope". 

Can you figure out who the winner of that contest will be, DUmmie?

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Lets say, everyone was equally educated. Everyone had a masters degree. Everyone could afford it. Or the government paid for it.

That would mean, SOMEONE still needs to work at McDonalds, someone still needs to dig ditches, someone would still need to work at a part time job with no benefits. These people would all have the same education. They just didn't get lucky enough to find jobs in their field. Even with their education.

"Education" does not always equal "smart" and a classroom is no substitute for experience.  If I have 5 candidates for a position and they all have the same education level, I'm going to pick the one who was motivated enough to work in his field of study.  If I have more than one of those, I'm picking the person who has the most experience.  Easy, isn't it?

As far as the others who didn't bring anything to the table except a piece of pretty paper and an expectation of riches falling from the sky?  The world needs ditch diggers, too...

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What you are telling these people is that since you cannot find a good enough job, you do not deserve Health Care or Dental Care or a 401K plan. Or a minimum wage above the poverty level.

No, DUmmie, what I am saying is that you are not entitled to it at my expense.

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How can any caring person not sympathize with a person who did not get the breaks they did?

Very sympathetic to the man who went to school, worked in his field, and didn't get ahead because of circumstances beyond his control.  Not sympathetic to the man who was not smart enough to try something different when what he was doing wasn't working out.

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I agree, not everyone deserves the same salary as someone who is very successful.

Invalidated your entire argument with one sentence.  Good job, DUmbass!

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But they deserve healthcare and a non-poverty wage. They also deserve a non-poverty living after they retire.

But not have to actually work for it, right, DUmmie?

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It seems so simple. Those of us who have it much better than the ones who do not, pay a little more.

It is that simple.  I give several thousand a year to charity and I am nowhere near the same level of wealth as a liberal democrat politician.  I actually give where it will help the most, how about you, DUmmie?

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That might mean a little less vacation every year. That might mean buying a $40,000 car instead of a $50,000 car. But the payback is worth it.

First of all, stupid, your messiah has ensured "a little less vacation" for me and my family.  I suspect I'm not alone in this... 

Second, I don't pay anywhere north of 30k for a vehicle.  If I want something nice, the local auto auction lot is full of bad money decisions from emotionally stunted fools like you.  Same goes for damn near everything I pay cash for.

Third, the "payback" has been a large section of the populace who feels they are entitled to what I work for and feel they can take it at gun point any time they want.  Worth it?  Maybe to a liberal leech, such as yourself.

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How the GOP can be the "religious" party or the "moral" party is the biggest farce they have ever perpetrated.

Because we don't believe in paying you to lay on your ass?  How horrible!   :whatever:

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I honestly do not know how a GOP supporter can not live in guilt.

Easy, I've never had to rely on the labor of others to feed myself or my family.  I worked hard, prepared, lived honorably, and built my life up from nothing to something.

I sleep very well at night...
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1. Everyone would have $250,000.00 of college loan debt.

2. Those that got a science degree would make money. Those that had an arts degree would not.

3. A loaf of bread would cost $35.

4. The country that the DUchebags so want was built upon an Eighth Grade educated nation.

5. The master degree would be less useful to society than the Eighth Grade education.

I have a hundred dollars that says that under 55 of the DUmp denizens could have passed that Eighth Grade test.
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