Author Topic: Abortion bouncy!!!!!!11111 (Read 2971 times)

Freeper · « **on:** August 24, 2012, 09:44:52 PM »

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Big Orange Jeff (205 posts)

My conversation with a pro-life friend today...

If have a very close friend who is pro-life. Since he's non-doctrinaire and somewhat level-headed, I often discuss abortion issues with him to get a real point of view, not just the standard teahadist screed. For instance, he supports abortion if the life of the mother is in jeopardy and thinks that Akin's statements are ridiculous.. For some reason, we had never discussed abortion resulting from rape or incest. A couple of hours ago, I asked him about Ryan's comment that a rape-induced pregnancy is still "life" irrespective of the method of conception.

The following is a crude transcript of the conversation:

Me: So, do you agree with Ryan's belief that the fetus should still be protected if the pregnancy resulted from rape?

Friend: That's a tough one but, no, I don't feel that the government should force a woman to have her rapist's baby.

Me: Why not?

Friend: It's difficult for me, but that child would be a daily reminder - even during gestation - of a horrific attack that the victim would have to relive over and over again.

Me: Okay, I'm glad to hear that. What about after the baby is born? Would you support euthanasia of a living child that resulted from rape?

Friend: NO!! Of course not!

Me: So, what's the difference?

Friend: Because it's a human being! The baby has been born. You can't kill a living, breathing child, no matter what the reason!! Why are you even--

Me: Don't worry, I don't support euthanizing a living human either. So you draw a distinction between an embryo and a living child.

Friend: Of course.

Me: The difference is that the baby is alive, but the embryo isn't.

Friend: Yes.

Me: So, life does NOT begin at conception.

Friend: ...

Me: ...

Friend: Wow. I have some thinking to do.

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Bigmack (6,062 posts)
8. I've never understood...

..how some pro-life people can be OK with abortion after rape or incest or to save the life of the mother.

It's intellectually inconsistent. If I can use the word "intellectually" here.

Hey... if you believe all that stuff about "souls" and life beginning at conception, you have to believe that God put a soul in that fetus, no matter the circumstances that led up to that event.

Saving the life of the mother..? Hey... God's Will and all that stuff.

How you can be okay with abortion at all is something I can't understand.

Here's something to think about DUmmies, I don't have to go through mental gymnastics to make myself feel good about my position, if you have to justify what you believe to yourself, you just may want to look at your beliefs.

Skul · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:47:23 PM »

I'm still amazed that they can remember a conversation, word for word.
Smartest pee-pulls on the interwebroots.
Zero bong.

notaDUmmie · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:50:08 PM »

DANG IT!!!

About 10 minutes ago, I considered posting this as my very first bouncy find, but since it didn't start with "So...", I was afraid I would make a fool of myself.

Freeper · « **Reply #3 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:50:59 PM »

Quote from: notaDUmmie on August 24, 2012, 09:50:08 PM

DANG IT!!!

About 10 minutes ago, I considered posting this as my very first bouncy find, but since it didn't start with "So...", I was afraid I would make a fool of myself.

I don't care if I make fool of myself.

notaDUmmie · « **Reply #4 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:52:31 PM »

Quote from: Freeper on August 24, 2012, 09:50:59 PM

I don't care if I make fool of myself.

Skul · « **Reply #5 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:53:27 PM »

Quote from: notaDUmmie on August 24, 2012, 09:50:08 PM

DANG IT!!!

About 10 minutes ago, I considered posting this as my very first bouncy find, but since it didn't start with "So...", I was afraid I would make a fool of myself.

I do that all the time. Just ask Freeper.

Freeper · « **Reply #6 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:54:24 PM »

Quote from: notaDUmmie on August 24, 2012, 09:52:31 PM

In order to be a bouncy, SO is not required, but it does give extra points to the bouncer.

Kyle Ricky · « **Reply #7 on:** August 24, 2012, 09:56:25 PM »

That isn't worth a bong. How lame can it get? They are either being lazy, or totally forgot the requirements for writing a bouncy. Maybe someone should give them a refresher course?

Jasonw560 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM »

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

Skul · « **Reply #9 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:16:37 PM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

Perhaps that's one reason we are, too.

BattleHymn · « **Reply #10 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:21:27 PM »

That's really cool, Jason. Thank you for sharing that with us, and thank your birth mother for doing the right thing.

BEG · « **Reply #11 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:31:17 PM »

This is my non-bouncy bouncy...

The sister of my ex sister in law had 13 abortions. She slept with married men, got pregnant on purpose, when the guy wouldn't leave his wife she would abort. She got pregnant a few times by a couple of the guys, the rest were by different fetus daddy.

I know the DUmmies won't believe my story and I don't really care, it is true. The last time she got pregnant it was from a married guy who she has had two prior pregnancies that ended in abortions. the last time she figured it would at least tie this guy to her for the rest of her life because and she hoped when she had it the wife would find out nd leave him. She made it to 17 weeks and had the blob of cells on her sister's (my ex SIL) bathroom floor. After it was all over the doctor said she would never be able to have another baby. I didn't know until after she lost her final pregnancy (her 14th pregnancy) that the doctor had already put a stich in her cervix because it was so weak from all the prior abortions but obviously it wasn't enough.

Back then I thought she would have made a terrible parent, she has changed a lot since then. She has basically taken over the mother roll for her sister's daughter (the daughter lives with her grandparents, long story). She is about 3 years older than me but will never have a child unless she adopts.

BEG · « **Reply #12 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:33:42 PM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

Thank you for your story. H5

obumazombie · « **Reply #13 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:37:03 PM »

Quote from: BattleHymn on August 24, 2012, 10:21:27 PM

That's really cool, Jason. Thank you for sharing that with us, and thank your birth mother for doing the right thing.

Double ditto. Some people discover courage they never knew or suspected they had. Thank goodness your birthmom did.

WinOne4TheGipper · « **Reply #14 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:37:53 PM »

The fetus isn't alive? Sounds like two morons need to take remedial science.

WinOne4TheGipper · « **Reply #15 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:41:04 PM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

Your birth mother is a great woman.

sybilll · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

That gave me a lump in my throat. H5. I work with a woman that is the result of a gang rape. She told us about it when her unmarried daughter got pregnant. Not a dry eye in the office.

Freeper · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2012, 10:56:30 PM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

You know what's sad a lot of DUmmies will say that it would have been better for you to have been aborted. They are sick creatures.

Jasonw560 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2012, 11:12:45 PM »

Quote from: Freeper on August 24, 2012, 10:56:30 PM

You know what's sad a lot of DUmmies will say that it would have been better for you to have been aborted. They are sick creatures.

That it was her "duty" somehow to abort me. It sickens me.

Thanks, everyone. It just pisses me off to no end when peepple like that say someone doesn't have life, then, poof, you do the minute you're born.

Even if I wasn't a Christian, I would still believe that life begins at conception. It's just logical.

How many mothers here referred to their children in utero as "embryos" during pregnancy? My wife didn't.

BlueStateSaint · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2012, 07:39:23 AM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

And we are a bit richer for having you around here. H5.

formerlurker · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2012, 08:04:16 AM »

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Me: Okay, I'm glad to hear that. What about after the baby is born? Would you support euthanasia of a living child that resulted from rape?

Friend: NO!! Of course not!

Me: So, what's the difference?

Friend: Because it's a human being! The baby has been born. You can't kill a living, breathing child, no matter what the reason!! Why are you even--

Me: Don't worry, I don't support euthanizing a living human either. So you draw a distinction between an embryo and a living child.

See misfit, this is where your bouncy falls apart. Any decent civilized person would have called you the moron you clearly are for even suggesting this.

Suggestion? Run your bouncy story by others to tweak it prior to posting. Mmmmkay?

Paul Heinzman · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2012, 08:32:05 AM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

Thank you for sharing that, Jason. Your birth mother is a wonderful woman; I'm glad you found her.

Big Dog · « **Reply #22 on:** August 25, 2012, 08:46:47 AM »

Quote from: Jasonw560 on August 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM

Opening up a little much here, but.....

My birthmother, whom I found last year, told me that she was raped, and considered going to Mexico to get an abortion.

But, even as I was forming in her womb, she thought of me as a child....not a zygote, not an embryo....but a child. She valued MY life above all else.

And she's an old hippie type.

And this is the main reason I am pro-life.

Vagabond · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2012, 09:30:26 AM »

DUmmies have no concept of triage. Save the ones that can be saved and mourn those that can't be. Of course that baby doesn't deserve to die because it's biological father is scum. Maybe a day will come when a fetus can be removed from it's mother and grow in an artificial womb. Then abortion will be seen as the sick evil that it is. Until then abortion under some circumstances has to be allowed as an option.

Bondai · « **Reply #24 on:** August 25, 2012, 09:49:35 AM »

This a bouncy.

The OP only has a post count of 205. He is trying to build street cred with the DUmmies. Since abortion is a hot topic over there right now he's taking advantage of the situation. I think he's a mole.

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