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If a person is TRULY pro-life it shouldn't matter if a babies dad was a rapist

If a person is really and truly pro-life for the sake of the baby...

It doesn’t matter whether a child’s father was a rapist or closely related to his/her mother. Both a ****’d up situations but if a person is really pro-life for the sake of the child, arguing that abortion is okay in the case of rape and incest is giving a child a death sentence for the sins of his/her father and/or mother (in the case of consensual incest).

Just sayin.
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You're right.  My stance has changed from allowing abortions in cases of rape, incest and for the life of the mother to just for the life of the mother.  Even in cases of the mother's life being at stake, it is still her choice to possibly give her life if the baby may survive.

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1. If they were REALLY pro-life they'd care about the baby after s/he is born.

We do.

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83. If they were really Pro-life,

They would care about the woman at the center in all this. They do not.

Keep their legs closed or use protection.

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7. consensual incest? really? wtf.

just sayin.

It has happened.

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33. Used to be quite common

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Marrying your cousin wasn't anything to bat an eye at.

And admittedly it gives me a visceral reaction but I really can't think of any reason to outlaw incest between two consenting adults.

Genetics.




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If abortion is ever REGULATED (like all other industries) where rape and the mother's life are the criteria watch how many consensual relationships suddenly become rape. What I do not understand is there is that pesky day after pill that could be used if a woman is raped. I may take heat on this but if there is a rape or say a drunken mistake the day after pill solves this problem and I agree with that. What I do not agree with is after three months the mother decides that it is time to kill the baby.
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I agree about the morning after pill for rape victims.

One of my biggest complaints concerning abortion is the rights of the man. It takes two to make it it should take agreement from both the mother and father to get an abortion. I realize that this is an unrealistic request but I truly believe the father should also have a say in what happens.

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I agree about the morning after pill for rape victims.

One of my biggest complaints concerning abortion is the rights of the man. It takes two to make it it should take agreement from both the mother and father to get an abortion. I realize that this is an unrealistic request but I truly believe the father should also have a say in what happens.
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If abortion is ever REGULATED (like all other industries) where rape and the mother's life are the criteria watch how many consensual relationships suddenly become rape. What I do not understand is there is that pesky day after pill that could be used if a woman is raped. I may take heat on this but if there is a rape or say a drunken mistake the day after pill solves this problem and I agree with that. What I do not agree with is after three months the mother decides that it is time to kill the baby.

No heat from me, and I'm very pro life.
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If a person is TRULY pro-life it shouldn't matter if a babies dad was a rapist

If a person is really and truly pro-life for the sake of the baby...

It doesn’t matter whether a child’s father was a rapist or closely related to his/her mother. Both a ****’d up situations but if a person is really pro-life for the sake of the child, arguing that abortion is okay in the case of rape and incest is giving a child a death sentence for the sins of his/her father and/or mother (in the case of consensual incest).

Just sayin.

Yes this does cause an issue for many of us pro life people, on the one hand the woman had no choice to be impregnated on the other hand an innocent life will be taken if an abortion is performed. I'm okay with terminating the pregnancy with the morning after pill or any method that occurs before anything has really had a chance to form.
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It is odd to me that if a woman was raped she would not be asking for a morning after pill or at least monitoring her cycle from 20 days after the rape.  I can find out i am pregnant on a dollar store pregnancy test at 9 days past ovulaton.  Why would a woman wait til the baby formed to abort?






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Another election cycle and we're saddled with another imbecile candidate that will hand the Senate to the communists.

Last time is was that moron witch lady in Connecticut.

This time it's a rape idiot in Missouri.

What this pinhead has done is make the election an abortion referendum.

The jug-eared Kenyan gets a pass on the economic destruction of America.

No one will talk about anything but abortion, and as important as it is, it's a huge losing proposition for us.

Anyone who keeps abortion at the forefront of the campaign, like this Akin fool, is working to re-elect the muslim and a democrat majority in the Senate.

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Another election cycle and we're saddled with another imbecile candidate that will hand the Senate to the communists.

Last time is was that moron witch lady in Connecticut.

This time it's a rape idiot in Missouri.

What this pinhead has done is make the election an abortion referendum.

The jug-eared Kenyan gets a pass on the economic destruction of America.

No one will talk about anything but abortion, and as important as it is, it's a huge losing proposition for us.

Anyone who keeps abortion at the forefront of the campaign, like this Akin fool, is working to re-elect the muslim and a democrat majority in the Senate.


Christine O'Donnell was in Delaware.  It really sucks that we blew it there and in NV and CO. 

I'm not particularly worried this time around.  Regardless of MO, I'm pretty sure that we'll get at least to 50.  If Romney wins, Ryan becomes the tie breaker and republicans will have the majority.
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It is odd to me that if a woman was raped she would not be asking for a morning after pill or at least monitoring her cycle from 20 days after the rape.  I can find out i am pregnant on a dollar store pregnancy test at 9 days past ovulaton.  Why would a woman wait til the baby formed to abort?

Gina reality here, say you agree to babysit a 11-12 year niece until parents come home from work.

Say this little girl comes to your home an hour late from school and says she was playing with friends.  You and parents read her the riot act and she is grounded for a few days.  A few weeks later you find out the neice disobayed parents and stopped at that nice old mans home for candy.---How did this come about for her to tell where she had been ??

Well she has a bad itchie discharge and it burns when she pees.   Into the doctors and this baby has STD and possibiliby pregnent.---------, the baby was too afraid to tell on the nice old man as he had threatened her, to late for the morning after pill, so off to get the Cops to lock him up.   Now you find she was indeed raped by that monster and indeed pregnent. [Now what?]

OR you have a son who at 12 begins to have a personality change, he drops out of sports and is angry all the time . Last thing one thinks of is sexual abuse------Send the kid to a theropist or just accept this is part of growing up. Naturally the head shrinker will blame the parents for the childs problems.

Kids just don't tell when they are made to feel all this is their fault.

Adult woman and men are not as much a target to the the monsters as the children are.   Unfortunately not just strangers but trusted family and those we train them to respect, teachers cops, preachers and family friends.

Very complicated issue this sex thing is, there is no one rule that fits all.  Incest is so strange, perhaps worse then being raped by a stranger.



   




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Christine O'Donnell was in Delaware. 
My mistake. You're right, of course. Usually I can keep those little half-assed East Coast hellholes straight.

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Rape is the only crime for which we slap the criminal on the wrist and then kill one of his children...
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Rape is the only crime for which we slap the criminal on the wrist and then kill one of his children...

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