Hillary Raises Assassination Issue

[Rebel]

HILLARY RAISES ASSASSINATION ISSUE
DEFENDS LONG-RUNNING CAMPAIGN
By GEOFF EARLE

May 23, 2008 --

Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out.

Obama's camp immediately fired back.

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," Obama campaign spokesman said in a statement.

Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."

Obama, the first African-American to advance so far in the race for the White House, has faced threats, sources have said.

Robert Kennedy, the younger brother of President John F. Kennedy, was gunned down in 1968 after winning the California primary. He had been a hero on the left for his civil rights agenda and calls to end the war in Vietnam.

Barack Obama, who leads Clinton by nearly 200 delegates and has already secured a majority of pledged delegates, has been the subject of threats. Early in the campaign, the Secret Service gave him a security detail at the request of Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Illinois).

Clinton criticized an "urgency" to end the campaign prematurely, saying, "Historically, that makes no sense."

Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson defended the comments to The Post, "She was talking about the length of the race and using the '68 election as an example of how long the races in the past have gone -- she used her husband's race in the same vein."

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[franksolich]

Well, she's right.

She's speaking truth to power.

[miskie]

You know this is going to play at DU as HRC suggested to her 'Low Information' voters to assassinate Obama.

I just checked... Thats exactly how its playing over there. Though it is a true statement, I think she just totally lost any chance of even getting the VP slot on the ticket, and her own folks will probably get her to back out now.

[Chris_]

Well, she's right.

She's speaking truth to power.

H5 as usual, Coach, for being dead on!

[Chris_]

You know this is going to play at DU as HRC suggested to her 'Low Information' voters to assassinate Obama.

I just checked... Thats exactly how its playing over there. Though it is a true statement, I think she just totally lost any chance of even getting the VP slot on the ticket, and her own folks will probably get her to back out now.

The last thing we need is a Obama/Clinton ticket.  Hopefully obamalama-ding-dong has enough brains to realize the Secret Service couldn't fully protect him if she's the veep.

[miskie]

The last thing we need is a Obama/Clinton ticket.  Hopefully obamalama-ding-dong has enough brains to realize the Secret Service couldn't fully protect him if she's the veep.

Agreed - Though honestly, I think it would actually work against Obama if she was on it. That whole 'change' message would go out the window, It would negate independents for Obama, and her negatives are so high that conservatives unhappy with McCain would probably at the very least vote against Hillary.

But the thought Of The "Hill-arious Obama-nation" actually managing to win is to scary to risk this way. At least to me.

[Randy]

How is this an "Issue"?

[mamacags]

I think it is an issue because Hillary was stupid enough to bring that into the conversation.  As a candidate those guys have to already be on pins and needles about the assassination possibility.  To talk about it in such a cavalier manner is really crass.

[jendf]

Priceless. This is going to be an entertaining summer.

[Lacarnut]

Keith Oblerlman blasted Hillary on his show last night. It was a thing of beauty. She has lost all creditability with the loons on the left and she can forget about being offered VP. If I was Obama, I would want to double my security forces cause there have been some mysterious deaths littering the path of the Clintons.      

[jendf]

Keith Oblerlman blasted Hillary on his show last night. It was a thing of beauty. She has lost all creditability with the loons on the left and she can forget about being offered VP. If I was Obama, I would want to double my security forces cause there have been some mysterious deaths littering the path of the Clintons.      

Someone at TOS once posted a list of all the people who have died that were somehow tied to the Clintons. It was a long list and a fascinating read.

I don't remember who posted the list or where it came from. It would interesting to re-read it though. Maybe someone here can recall it?

[Chris_]

Here's a copy...  http://www.apfte.net/Pages/Clinton%20Legacy/Trail_of_death.htm

1. James McDougal  Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2. Mary Mahoney A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3. Vince Foster Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head; ruled a suicide.

4. Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5. C. Victor Raiser II and...

6. Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

7. Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

8. Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

9. Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

10. James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

There are 33 more names on the list.

[jendf]

That's the list, Chris! It's crazy how many of these were "apparent suicides." Lesson here is: Don't mess with the Clintons if you know what's good for you.

[Lauri]

ok, call me crazy but i dont see the big deal here.

she made a huge blunder in trying to equate her late end game possibilities, but the analogy is still just.

*anything* can happen in a campaign. anything.

Kerry thought he was winning the whole enchilda four years ago. Early in the day it looked like he had snatched defeat from victory.

but that didnt happen.

i think Hilary should fight on!

[Lauri]

You know this is going to play at DU as HRC suggested to her 'Low Information' voters to assassinate Obama.

I just checked... Thats exactly how its playing over there. Though it is a true statement, I think she just totally lost any chance of even getting the VP slot on the ticket, and her own folks will probably get her to back out now.

oddly enough, the Barackstar!! has already issued a statement saying, she didnt phrase it well, but she shouldnt feel any pressure to drop out.

[Lauri]

You know this is going to play at DU as HRC suggested to her 'Low Information' voters to assassinate Obama.

I just checked... Thats exactly how its playing over there. Though it is a true statement, I think she just totally lost any chance of even getting the VP slot on the ticket, and her own folks will probably get her to back out now.

The last thing we need is a Obama/Clinton ticket.  Hopefully obamalama-ding-dong has enough brains to realize the Secret Service couldn't fully protect him if she's the veep.

well, not only that but idea-wise, they are not even in the same ballpark.

she is just on the edge of the moderate bubble, with left leaning tendencies that are failing as we speak (education, health care, etc) .. she and Obama are two opposite ends of the Liberal stick. i just dont see how they could align, and Bill Clinton putting it out there is about as low class as it gets.

[Lauri]

Keith Oblerlman blasted Hillary on his show last night. It was a thing of beauty. She has lost all creditability with the loons on the left and she can forget about being offered VP. If I was Obama, I would want to double my security forces cause there have been some mysterious deaths littering the path of the Clintons.     

Someone at TOS once posted a list of all the people who have died that were somehow tied to the Clintons. It was a long list and a fascinating read.

I don't remember who posted the list or where it came from. It would interesting to re-read it though. Maybe someone here can recall it?

on TOS site I was kind of manic about this Clinton death watch that Vanity Fair did years ago. It was just *blistering* and in depth - I was shocked it came from such a left magazine. It was just the first year or two after Clinton left office and people have probably forgotten about it by now. But yes, the list is long. As well as the number of people who had to use lawyers in his administration - its a wonder Clinton can raise any money at all.

[Chris_]

ok, call me crazy but i dont see the big deal here.

she made a huge blunder in trying to equate her late end game possibilities, but the analogy is still just.

*anything* can happen in a campaign. anything.

Kerry thought he was winning the whole enchilda four years ago. Early in the day it looked like he had snatched defeat from victory.

but that didnt happen.

i think Hilary should fight on! :-)

I am typing this through gritted teeth, but my allegiance to the truth is stronger than my disgust for mrs. clinton.  I read an article the other day that spoke of "Journalism by ambush" that basically;ly said that all the candidates are being followed around and researched for attempts to find these great sound bites and ignoring substantive issues.

This seems to be very true.  The bottom line is that mrs. clinton was merely speaking about campaigns that ran as far as June and beyond -- she should/could have said "Bobby Kennedy was still campaigning in June" and just not mentioned the assassination.  For this one, I have to defend her.

[DixieBelle]

I'm you FD. This is a down and dirty campaign season and with the internet and instant access to the candidates on the trail, every little blurb is broadcast. Often without context and usually with an underlying motive. How else can you explain the Ooooobama Hope and Change Express? It's the compliant media carrying the water along with flattering soundbites.

But yes, you are so right about lack of substantive issues. Look at how many folks on our side dropped out before this thing got rolling. There were a handful of GOP candidates that had substantive ideas but no one was interested. I blame the American Idol Syndrome (again)